w215/220 wheels on a w124?

[chomp_sticks]

Hello got a question about wheels. looking to fit a set of cl600 wheels pictured below. Would I need longer, shorter bolts, fatter or spacers or anything? I believe they are 17x1/2 +46 offset I was going to shoot for 18s but figured to would by way to big and a not so comfortable ride... They are going on this

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[neanderthal]

Pretty sure they are the wrong offset.

And the wheel bolts on the S class cars have a bigger diameter, 14mm vs 12 mm.

As for length. check how much of the wheel bolt extends beyond the back of the wheel and aim for that approximate length.

[svhamelly]

Originally Posted by neanderthal

Pretty sure they are the wrong offset.

And the wheel bolts on the S class cars have a bigger diameter, 14mm vs 12 mm.

As for length. check how much of the wheel bolt extends beyond the back of the wheel and aim for that approximate length.

+1
I think that offset would give you problems clearing suspension.

[CDP]

Will work with Spacers - 15, 20 or 25mm at that.

[chomp_sticks]

What is the max offset I'd be able to run without rolling the fenders anyways? I have seen the Mercedes wheel offset chart before for approximations.

Not sure if I will get these wheels because I don't want to run spacers at all.

[2PHAST]

Originally Posted by chomp_sticks

What is the max offset I'd be able to run without rolling the fenders anyways? I have seen the Mercedes wheel offset chart before for approximations.

Not sure if I will get these wheels because I don't want to run spacers at all.

Stay away from S Class wheels. As already mentioned, the lugs are an issue and so is the offsets.

Perfect setup would be a 17x7.5" in the +30 offset range. No spacers, no fender rolling. You can also use a 18x7.5" wheel (same offset range) but that size is a bit more of a challenge to find.

[stormtigers]

To be honest I think your ride looks good the way it is !
Maybe monoblocks but the color wheel combination is pretty darn nice !

Here's a thought replace the pedestrian gunsite with the flat MB badge - actually transforms the look quite a bit !
My signature picture has the star but in life it now only has the flat badge.

[chomp_sticks]

Originally Posted by stormtigers

To be honest I think your ride looks good the way it is !
Maybe monoblocks but the color wheel combination is pretty darn nice !

Here's a thought replace the pedestrian gunsite with the flat MB badge - actually transforms the look quite a bit !
My signature picture has the star but in life it now only has the flat badge.

Thanks! Replaced my emblem and grill insert the other day. Still debating on what to do with wheels though. Looking at borbet type A is 17s or AMG 2 or 3 piece wheels (Hard to find though) EVO wheels, or just some regular monoblocks. The borbet type As are what I am really aiming for though.

[stormtigers]

Amazing what that flat emblem does to modernise.
Like the wheel ideas - as you say finding them is half the issue.
With AMG2 that would be one sweet lady you have.
Whats with the coupe in the background ?

Update your profile also - what cars and location.

[chomp_sticks]

The flat emblem really does change the looks. I think if I found AMG2 wheels they would go on the 560SEC instead. That car is my weekend car, it's been in the family since 1993 and everyone stopped taking care of it so I asked my dad if I could take it and he said be my guest! Runs great and paint is so so, but the interior is starting to deteriorate. So right now it's staying as it is while I slowly clean it up nicely. started with a good old vacuum as the floor mats started to degrade as shown below. It has had many problems in it's lifetime so I tend not to drive it much. Both cars are at 115k

[stormtigers]

Amazing - the pictures from the outside are obviously deceiving !
But tidy her up.
Unless that photo hides untold rust etc the outside looks really good.
Personally I would make the 560 the weekend ride and tidy the 300 up as a daily.

[chomp_sticks]

Exactly what I am doing. 560 weekend and 300 daily. As far as rust goes, there is one spot of rust on the 560 right near the door jam on the passenger side. This car has been in ATL it's entire life. I got to take the car to a detailer for the carpets soon. The 300 needs no work at all at the moment. In about 30k the head gasket most likely as it is already leaking but extremely slowly.

[chomp_sticks]

So I found a set of monoblocks for a killer deal. If they don't work then I will probably sell them, but the stats are 17x7.5 +35 and 17x8.5 +30.

I know the fronts will fit, but I am slightly worried about the rears. If it is an issue would a 225 or 235 tire for the rear be okay to clear the fender or would I need to roll them?

Also does anybody know the bolt diameter for a w202? is it 14 or 12?

[stormtigers]

Originally Posted by chomp_sticks

So I found a set of monoblocks for a killer deal. If they don't work then I will probably sell them, but the stats are 17x7.5 +35 and 17x8.5 +30.

I know the fronts will fit, but I am slightly worried about the rears. If it is an issue would a 225 or 235 tire for the rear be okay to clear the fender or would I need to roll them?

Also does anybody know the bolt diameter for a w202? is it 14 or 12?

Good pickup - i have that staggered size setup on my 300CE in 10spoke.
The alloy wheels for the Mercedes 202 series use a PCD5x112, centre bore 66.5mm and M12x1.5 bolt thread.

My fitment is
C CLass 10 Spoke 17 inch - Staggered 17x7.5" & 17x8.5"
Falken Ziex Ze-912 Tyres - 225/45 ZR17 & 245/40 ZR17

But the 300CE also has quite a large camber at the rear so the top of the tyre falls in at the top.
If it's not lowered and you get a low profile tyre on them you should be a-ok.

Its a wide wheel at the rear, AMG used to modify the wheel arch to fit them with 245/45's on them.
I would think you 235/45's would fit but you might be able to squeeze 225's on.

Best check with a tyre place as some 235's can actually come out higher than 225's !

These are the wheels your talking about ?
http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/mer...g_ii_wheel_192

[chomp_sticks]

Those are the exact wheels I have and they are and I would say they are an 8 out of 10 condition. The car is not lowered yet, but will be eventually on b&g springs and bilstein shocks either sport or HD, not sure of the difference in them and which is better or worse

What is your offset on the rear? 30 also?

[stormtigers]

Originally Posted by chomp_sticks

Those are the exact wheels I have and they are and I would say they are an 8 out of 10 condition. The car is not lowered yet, but will be eventually on b&g springs and bilstein shocks either sport or HD, not sure of the difference in them and which is better or worse

What is your offset on the rear? 30 also?

Yep 30 it is !

Here's what the camber on rear is like on the 300CE !

[chomp_sticks]

Here we go, Got the wheels on.



Also just a fun pic at work with some coworkers, we all park near the back next to curbs.

[chomp_sticks]

Originally Posted by stormtigers

Yep 30 it is !

Here's what the camber on rear is like on the 300CE !
Attachment 231063

I think all cars have stock camber which increases as you lower it right?

[stormtigers]

Originally Posted by chomp_sticks

I think all cars have stock camber which increases as you lower it right?

Not 100% sure on that I believe the coupe as a "sports model did have different suspension and they squatted off the showroom floor at about 1 degree.
It increased from this as the vehicle was lowered.
Not sure if the sedan also had the 1 degree or not.

[ynavsoy]

They fit, I had a 500e with the thin spoke monoblock i ran 255 in the front and 275 in the rear, in the front i had to use a 1/4 in spacer. In the rear i did not need the spacers the cleared perfect.
I am guessing that if u have a regular 124 u can just run 235 up in the front and 255 in the rears.