Brian McL

I'm looking for a new set of wheels for my 94 E320. I like the look of the OE S500 7 spoke. Does anybody know if the S Class wheels will fit the W124? Thanks

zeronero

If you're talking about the 2000-2002 S class 16" wheels then they will fit. I've seen several 124's with them.

Brian McL

Yeah...the ones I've seen are the 2001 S500. I thought the lug diametre was too large, 14mm as opposed to 12mm on the E320. Do we need to change the brake rotor? Thanks

zeronero

All MB wheels have the same lug pattern and lug diameter. The only reason why these wheels might not fit would be the offset on the front wheels because of the fixed caliper 124 cars, later models only. They could possibly hit the caliper, but I really doubt it. Like I've said, I've seen several 124's with these wheels.

The Godfather

No, he's talkinga bout the lug being too long. That's a common problem.

You need to cut it down.


where are you located? If you are in So. Cal, goto TWS www.thewheelsupply.com

Brian McL

..actually I was talking abput the diameter, not the length. I bought a set of lugs for an M Class and they are 14mm wide. The same lugs are suppose to be for S Class as well. They are too wide to fit through the holes in the 124 wheels. So, I just assumed that these wheels from the S500 would have a larger hole to accomodate the 14mm lugs.

Chappy

Nope. Lug diameter for W140, W124 (500E/E500), SL and CL will not fit 300E/400E W124 as the bolts are thicker (diameter).

Just because you see a car with wheels from a different class means nothing....they may be using adapters or spacers...something MB does not recommend.

dlafever

Ditto on Chappy's remarks, lugs from the W140 and W220 are indeed larger than the W124 series cars and not interchangeable. Different part numbers as well, all through the supercessions.

-D

zeronero

Chappy, where is the bolt thicker. If it's in the threads then it will not matter as long as the head is the same diameter. So if the head of the S-class bolt is the same as the 124 bolt then the rims should fit perfectly since it's the head that puts pressure on the rim. So the 124 bolts can be used. If that makes any sense let me know what you think.

Brian McL

Mercedes wheels are hubcentric which means the center hole of the wheel (hub) actually sits on the axle of the car to keep the wheel centered. The S-class wheel will actually
have holes 1mm too big all the way around the lug bolt, but since the wheel is already centered on the hub, the bolts just keep the wheel tight to the brake rotor. Some may argue that it's not safe to put an S-class wheel on E-class but I've heard lots of other MB owners do this without having wheels fall off. I believe most aftermarket wheel companies make all of their Mercedes wheels with the large lug bolt opening so that they can market their wheels for any model.

The correct size of the bolt for an E-class is 12mm
(bolt diameter) x 1.5 (pitch for thread) and the length will vary
depending on if you are using OEM or aftermarket wheels, this is why if you buy aftermarket wheels retail, they will send you replacement bolts because they may need to be longer or shorter than the OEM ones your OEM wheels came with.

Correct size for the S-class is 14mm.

Chappy

I would advise against using W140 bolts on a W124 or even W124 bolts on W140 wheels mounted on a W124.

Improper offset + improper lug bolts is a recipe for disaster......especially at triple digit speeds. Remember, you are supposed to torque the lugs on to specification, not "wrench them on as hard as your can." Believe it or not, improper torqueing can ruin a set or rotors quickly.....then you start getting into other problems/costs.

Zeronero, I would suggest you head to the dealership and compare, first hand, the two sizes. The difference is significant, IMO. As for wheels not falling off.....'you rolls the dice and you takes your chances.'

Back to the orginal post: Brian McL: I would e-mail Luke at Tirerack as he seems to be familiar with these answers best of all (as to specifically what wheels will match up with the correct application)

Melon_Stunner

Yeah, after talking to Luke, it seems that we can use CLK or C class rims. S-class and even newer E-class rims use 14mm bolts.

neanderthal

the "tighten your lugnuts too muachand you could warp your brakes" myth still lingers. that was from back in the day when most european cars were small, sometimes only had three lugnuts per wheel etc. early volvos are certainlay suspect.

anyway, the proper torque for most mercedesis 81 ft/lbs (or lb/ feet, i always get them confused.)
for post W140 S class and its derivatives and ML its 110.

neanderthal

the "tighten your lugnuts too muachand you could warp your brakes" myth still lingers. that was from back in the day when most european cars were small, sometimes only had three lugnuts per wheel etc. early volvos are certainlay suspect.

anyway, the proper torque for most mercedesis 81 ft/lbs (or lb/ feet, i always get them confused.)
for post W140 S class and its derivatives and ML its 110.

Melon_Stunner

So which rims will fit a 1994 E320? CLK's? C-Class?

amdeutsch

Both

Holson

Those 7-spoke wheels on W124s that u saw are probably replicas made by a Japanese/Korean company (can't remember)

I put these on my dad's 230E right before the car was sold (unreliable).

The tires were 215/55/16 Dunlop SP9000s. Great tires, too bad they rubbed against the plastic cladding (you can see it in the 2nd pic) and the wheels were kind of sticking out.