livin503

anybody know if the 99-02 aftermarket headlight will fit my 98 e320? I know the bumpers, fenders are different between the years, but wouldnt the headlights be the same? Any info would be great!

Semikolon

They will not fit.. The complete front is different..

Why not just buy headlights for the pre-facelift?

livin503

what do you mean by a pre-facelift? haha sorry im new into the eclass scene (coming from the w202). I want to get new projector headlights, but i just like the ones offered in 99-02 so much better than the ones for 96-98... anyone know where to find a better selection for headlights besides ebay?

raymond g-

it will fit.....

no, it wont fit....

98-99 headlights will fit your 98 -- 00-02 will *not* fit your 98.
additionally, anyone who advertises that their headlight covers all
models 98-02 probably doesn't know their product.

Semikolon

facelift is the models produced after august 99 (year model 2000)


Usually there are similar models of headlights available for both 96-99 and 00-03..

Do a search for W210 DEPO on ebay and all the results are the same headlight.


I can recommend buying from this guy. http://motors.shop.ebay.com/merchant/sora48

The 96-99 DEPO headlight is not currently listed, but I'm pretty sure he has them in stock. send him a question. Reasonable pricing and genuine depo headlights. He also have depo fog lights for both models.


But beware, none of the aftermarket projector headlights produce usable low beam output.

livin503

projector not usable output even if im installing hids?

EdzBenz

Livin,
I would suggest you try a search on this forum for "Depo" "xenon" "projector". Also check any threads posted by Zam on here. He's an expert on lighting. You will find a wealth of knowledge.

Semikolon

You will get enough light, but a very shattered output. The projector is not designed for usage, at least not with HIDs. It will create a lot of glare to oncoming traffic I think...

This guy put H7 Hid kits into his depo headlights

low beam




high beam





The high beam beam design is OK, but the low beam output is crap.

Musikmann

Ditto, zam2000 is the man! He lives somewhere in California and you can hire him to upgrade yours to whatever is possible.

e320avangarde

http://www.xenonking.com/?gclid=CJiM...FQECGgodmBusOA

check this website for some ideas how to upgrade lights.

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Semikolon

don't you ever, EVER, install kits like these in your reflector based halogen headlights. Projectors MAY be ok in some cases where the projector is designed the right way, but not in cheap projectors like the one in the depo headlights..

raymond g-

yeah...what he said. but seriously, didn't McCullough dissolve a year or two back?

Semikolon

Who's McCullough?

raymond g-

my old, high school gas engines instructor.



jest kidding. that's the US HID company the poster highlighted in post #10

livin503

so theres the w210 96-98 prefacelift, and mid 98-02 is the facelift?

ohlord

pre 2000 post.pre easy change headlights.Post remove bumper headlights.
Hid's in original buckets,a joke.
Hid's in depos only a little better joke ,just more modern looking.
Light output,why do you think the high beam on the xenon set up is still an H7 bulb.
Polish the lenses per the diy on benzworld.org w210 diy section ,install 4 H7 65 watt rally bulbs from www.danielsternlighting.com
and outshine them all.That is if you value light over looks.Go v.s. show
At the very least read his tech papers on hid conversions
Kelvin ratings and blue light myths.

livin503

i understand the light output and everything.. im just looking to get black headlights and just seeing what year the headlights change from the prefacelift to the facelift bulbs cause i know they change with the new bumper

randyboy

they are different lights