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URGENT: NHTSA Opens investigation into fuel leaks on the W211 E Class

Old 05-21-2014, 10:35 PM
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Shame, but unsurprising, that Mercedes has reacted like this.

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Old 05-22-2014, 09:52 AM
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recall of 300,000 cars at $3,000 each, the total is
$900,000,000 not $900,000 as you stated. ......................... And now you know why MB gives little response.
The cost per car is not that much. The $3000 includes the retail price for the part as well as the standard hourly rate at the dealer.

For a recall the price for the parts will probably be around $200 (maybe even less) and they buy hours at the dealer at cost +10% which is about $40/hour.

So to fix this it is less that $500/car. Also keep in mind that the $3000 is amount of hours per the book. A skilled tech can do this work in much less time.
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Yeah there is no way that this should REALLY cost $3000 to fix, in reality we're talking about something that is a few hundred dollars instead of a few thousand. They can fix it for cheaper if they want to, but part of a car company's revenue comes from out-of-warranty repairs so they pass the cost off to us. Very good point sgaar.
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I've opened up my claim on the website also. Can't fill past 3/4 of a tank. Let's hope for a recall.
Old 05-23-2014, 06:58 PM
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I recently changed my leaking sending unit at an INDY. After it was changed, could not fill up all the way to get a full tank. He lined it up correctly and made sure fuel float was not snagged somewhere. I went back to him with a nearly empty tank to check the problem, he opened both sides and found driver (sending unit) side was nearly empty, and passenger (fuel pump) side was nearly full. He was not sure what was going on, so he put everything back together and now I fill it up with 18 gallons only for a full tank, not 21. I guess it's something I have to learn to live with. At least the leak and odor of gasoline are gone.
Old 05-27-2014, 11:26 AM
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I have the '06 and it leak like crazy if I fill up all the way so I believe the CDI also has this problem
Old 08-12-2014, 03:21 PM
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Old 08-13-2014, 03:44 PM
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so ive read through all these posts and im confused, what in the world am I looking for? I can fill my tank up all the way, I cant smell gas (I think) , anything else I should look for?
Old 08-13-2014, 04:30 PM
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sooo... my emissions are up this month. This leak is giving me a check engine light for evap leak, i assume this will cause me to fail my emissions.

what are people doing to get their car to pass emissions? even when i reset the light it comes back on pretty quickly. before it would take some time but now it comes back almost right away. i was talking to the guys at autohaus in Arizona and they said because i don't leak outside of the car only get the interior gas smell that i could try putting some caulking/sealer to try and stop the leak. any thoughts on this idea?

appreciate any help, i wasn't aware i was going to have to do emissions this month and now i'm worried i won't get this sorted out in time.
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Originally Posted by Craftysince86
sooo... my emissions are up this month. This leak is giving me a check engine light for evap leak, i assume this will cause me to fail my emissions.

what are people doing to get their car to pass emissions? even when i reset the light it comes back on pretty quickly. before it would take some time but now it comes back almost right away. i was talking to the guys at autohaus in Arizona and they said because i don't leak outside of the car only get the interior gas smell that i could try putting some caulking/sealer to try and stop the leak. any thoughts on this idea?

appreciate any help, i wasn't aware i was going to have to do emissions this month and now i'm worried i won't get this sorted out in time.

You could try some JBweld or Loc-Tite or some other brand of epoxy that is specifically designed for fuel contact. Make sure your tank is below 3/4 full.....clean those areas as completely as possible then flood those areas with the epoxy. I'd leave the fuel cap off while it's curing to prevent internal pressure for the tank from messing up the seal.

The problem is that if you dump a bunch of epoxy on those senders you could create a real headache for yourself when you finally go to fix things properly...

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do you think that will work though to get rid of the check engine light?
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Originally Posted by Craftysince86
do you think that will work though to get rid of the check engine light?

If it seals correctly then it will resolve the codes for "small evap leak"...

Not sure what specific codes you've got.

Correct solution is to replace the senders completely, that way you also get a new fuel filter (which is required maintenance anyway at 60,000 miles)... But the epoxy trick might band-aid things temporarily.

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I keep reading... "I have the '06 and it leak like crazy if I fill up all the way..."

I read on mine that it says "Do not top off" so once the pump stops, that is all that I put in. I don't think I have a problem.
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Originally Posted by GregMB
You could try some JBweld or Loc-Tite or some other brand of epoxy that is specifically designed for fuel contact. Make sure your tank is below 3/4 full.....clean those areas as completely as possible then flood those areas with the epoxy. I'd leave the fuel cap off while it's curing to prevent internal pressure for the tank from messing up the seal.

The problem is that if you dump a bunch of epoxy on those senders you could create a real headache for yourself when you finally go to fix things properly...

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I live in Gilbert and I ended up having to get both fuel senders, fuel tank, and gas cap replaced to take care of the check engine light. Contact me if you want specifics.
Old 08-23-2014, 04:51 PM
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I can't believe this issue has been going on this long and still nothing.

Once I get my old E500 back, which had this issue (presumably still does), I'll be filling out the NHTSA forms. I don't want to do it until I for sure have the car back in my possession.
Old 10-09-2014, 11:56 AM
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Great... I smell gas in my E500.

No way I'm going to dealer for this stupid ****.
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Filled out the NHTSA forms today

I REALLY hope something comes of this and the cars are recalled. I can't even park the car in the garage because the gas smell is so strong.
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Just joined this threads list of E500 owners with strong gas smell.

Filed my complaint with the NHTSA

The smell is so strong that I simply can't leave it in the garage anymore. The car now sits outside getting beat down by the weather.
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Dammit! I read this from time to time after posting on this thread months ago. Guys it may not be the sending unit. It's possible it's the tank. The recall covered the e63 sending unit but from what my research tells me (and after replacing my sending unit with the newly resisted one) It could be the tanks as often as it is the sending unit. I've had my tank smoke tested. Big fat crack just under the mounting bolt in the center of the tank


As far as emissions go. My check engine light is on. If you want to pass smog disconnect the battery in the trunk for 10 minutes. Reconnect. Reset milage counter. Drive for 200 miles. Go get the smoke check. Fill up only half way at the gas pump while driving. I've done this the last three years. It usually takes 1500 miles to have the light reilluminate
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Dammit! I read this from time to time after posting on this thread months ago. Guys it may not be the sending unit. It's possible it's the tank. The recall covered the e63 sending unit but from what my research tells me (and after replacing my sending unit with the newly resisted one) It could be the tanks as often as it is the sending unit. I've had my tank smoke tested. Big fat crack just under the mounting bolt in the center of the tank


As far as emissions go. My check engine light is on. If you want to pass smog disconnect the battery in the trunk for 10 minutes. Reconnect. Reset milage counter. Drive for 200 miles. Go get the smoke check. Fill up only half way at the gas pump while driving. I've done this the last three years. It usually takes 1500 miles to have the light reilluminate
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What do you guys thinks about this NHTSA fuel leak report:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2014...robe.html?_r=0

Does it mean we have a 15-year warranty for that problem?
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Originally Posted by Stuttgarten
What do you guys thinks about this NHTSA fuel leak report:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2014...robe.html?_r=0

Does it mean we have a 15-year warranty for that problem?
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/bus...robe/20800823/
Mercedes — a unit of Daimler AG — told NHTSA on Sept. 4 it will extend the original warranty coverage to 15 years and unlimited mileage on "Covered Fuel Tank Components" in 2003-2009 E-Class vehicles in and 2006-2011 CLS-Class vehicles. Fuel tank components for the warranty extension include the fuel tank, fuel filter/sender, fuel pump, and all related gaskets/seals and retention rings. That letter was made public in recent days by NHTSA.

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