CHEAP WAYS: to make car faster

gmelays · 10-13-2009, 07:40 AM

hi guys i got a 350 i wanted to know any good cheap and easy ways to gain some speed??

thxx for any help

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K-A · 10-13-2009, 08:35 AM

Unfortunately the 3.5 V6 motor has little to no juice to unleash, especially for cheap. An aftermarket exhaust or "deletion" of any components will just make the car sound louder and raspy, and probably if anything, lose low end Torque, apparently no M-B N/A motor has ever been proven to be helped by any Air Filters (there are stories of it actually hurting), etc. etc.

M-B kinda builds their motors in a "lock n key" way, i.e good luck finding any extra power. You could probably get an ECU thing done, but again I'll bet gains will be minimal, and it won't be all that cheap. As well, Warranty issues might come up.

If anyone has gotten any respectable and decently priced power out of a 350, I'd be interested in hearing about it....

chokaay · 10-13-2009, 10:56 AM

As far as quicker acceleration goes, the cheapest way is to take everything you DON'T need out of the car. It improves gas mileage too.

chokaay · 10-13-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by K-A

Unfortunately the 3.5 V6 motor has little to no juice to unleash, especially for cheap. An aftermarket exhaust or "deletion" of any components will just make the car sound louder and raspy, and probably if anything, lose low end Torque, apparently no M-B N/A motor has ever been proven to be helped by any Air Filters (there are stories of it actually hurting), etc. etc.

M-B kinda builds their motors in a "lock n key" way, i.e good luck finding any extra power. You could probably get an ECU thing done, but again I'll bet gains will be minimal, and it won't be all that cheap. As well, Warranty issues might come up.

If anyone has gotten any respectable and decently priced power out of a 350, I'd be interested in hearing about it....

IMHO, I think the 350 engine does well for what it's designed to do. It's a good balance between fuel efficiency and power (for a V6). It's fast enough to accelerate up to CA freeway speeds with ease, and is very smooth when cruising at a constant speed. Of course it's not going to beat an AMG car in a drag race, but how many people NEED to race other cars and win every single day? (If you do, then the E350 isn't for you.) As a daily driver, the 350 does just fine (much better than my old C240).

K-A · 10-13-2009, 08:08 PM

I agree ^^. I'm totally happy with the power. I'm a mellow driver and just like to cruise, so all I need is something with adequate enough Torque, and that's never straining. It actually sounds pretty damn good at WOT too.

It's a good high-tech motor (compared to what M-B replaced it from at least), and does the job. Greatest part is, it's not a fussy 6-banger that has to rev too high, or makes too much noise, as ultimately, its job is to help provide a luxurious ride.

pureenergy68 · 10-15-2009, 06:00 PM

Not so cheap (approx $800-900) solution is to upgrade the ECU...

gmelays · 10-16-2009, 01:24 AM

upgrade the ecu???? what is it and what do you get out of it?

very interested

amdeutsch · 10-16-2009, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gmelays

upgrade the ecu???? what is it and what do you get out of it?

very interested

There are numerous posts about this subject matter on MBW. Please search.

pureenergy68 · 10-16-2009, 11:31 AM

gmelays,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_control_unit

I went with the Kleemann ECU Upgrade and noticing a difference in the power - 20-25hp/tq at crank. Here is the link that I recently posted.

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/e-clas...2010-e350.html

gmelays · 10-16-2009, 12:03 PM

thanks for the link what was the price on that ecu?

petee1997 · 10-16-2009, 03:17 PM

You bought the wrong car. You are being silly looking for 15 to 20 HP. If you were looking for big power why did you not buy a E550?

gmelays · 10-16-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by petee1997

You bought the wrong car. You are being silly looking for 15 to 20 HP. If you were looking for big power why did you not buy a E550?

i did not want to pay an extra $270 a month.

pureenergy68 · 10-16-2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmelays

thanks for the link what was the price on that ecu?

It was around $850 (Kleemann)..

ESIX3POWER · 10-16-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gmelays

i did not want to pay an extra $270 a month.

Thats pretty understandable, what's your current monthly payment ?
Ive seen lease deals on the 350 go any where from $700 and up with a few grand down.

10-13-2009, 08:35 AM	#2
K-A MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 8,721 Drives: '13 BMW 535i M Sport / Ex M-B's: '11 & '10 & '06 E350's, '02 S500	Unfortunately the 3.5 V6 motor has little to no juice to unleash, especially for cheap. An aftermarket exhaust or "deletion" of any components will just make the car sound louder and raspy, and probably if anything, lose low end Torque, apparently no M-B N/A motor has ever been proven to be helped by any Air Filters (there are stories of it actually hurting), etc. etc. M-B kinda builds their motors in a "lock n key" way, i.e good luck finding any extra power. You could probably get an ECU thing done, but again I'll bet gains will be minimal, and it won't be all that cheap. As well, Warranty issues might come up. If anyone has gotten any respectable and decently priced power out of a 350, I'd be interested in hearing about it.... __________________ '13 F10 BMW 535i ///M Sport : Jet Black/Black-Anthracite : Premium & Technology Packages/Sport Auto Trans/Camera/Park Distance Control/Heated Seats/Tinted Windows/Blacked Out Markers/Performance Spoiler. Ex M-B's: '11/'10/'06 E350's w/ AMG Sport Package, '02 S500 w/ Every Option.

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chokaay Super Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 518 Drives: E350	As far as quicker acceleration goes, the cheapest way is to take everything you DON'T need out of the car. It improves gas mileage too. __________________ -Chokaay

10-13-2009, 08:08 PM	#5
K-A MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 8,721 Drives: '13 BMW 535i M Sport / Ex M-B's: '11 & '10 & '06 E350's, '02 S500	I agree ^^. I'm totally happy with the power. I'm a mellow driver and just like to cruise, so all I need is something with adequate enough Torque, and that's never straining. It actually sounds pretty damn good at WOT too. It's a good high-tech motor (compared to what M-B replaced it from at least), and does the job. Greatest part is, it's not a fussy 6-banger that has to rev too high, or makes too much noise, as ultimately, its job is to help provide a luxurious ride. __________________ '13 F10 BMW 535i ///M Sport : Jet Black/Black-Anthracite : Premium & Technology Packages/Sport Auto Trans/Camera/Park Distance Control/Heated Seats/Tinted Windows/Blacked Out Markers/Performance Spoiler. Ex M-B's: '11/'10/'06 E350's w/ AMG Sport Package, '02 S500 w/ Every Option.

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pureenergy68 Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 37 Drives: 2010 E350; 2009 ML 350	Not so cheap (approx $800-900) solution is to upgrade the ECU...

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gmelays Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 30 Drives: 2010 E350	upgrade the ecu???? what is it and what do you get out of it? very interested

10-16-2009, 11:31 AM	#9
pureenergy68 Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 37 Drives: 2010 E350; 2009 ML 350	gmelays, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_control_unit I went with the Kleemann ECU Upgrade and noticing a difference in the power - 20-25hp/tq at crank. Here is the link that I recently posted. http://www.mbworld.org/forums/e-clas...2010-e350.html

10-16-2009, 12:03 PM	#10
gmelays Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 30 Drives: 2010 E350	thanks for the link what was the price on that ecu?

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petee1997 Super Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ontario,Canada Posts: 748 Drives: 0 4M,13 Porsche 991 C2S Cab	You bought the wrong car. You are being silly looking for 15 to 20 HP. If you were looking for big power why did you not buy a E550?

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