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Old 03-03-2011, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BenzE350
I always thought this was a worthless feature on a car with automatic transmission - still do.

But it seems like folks like it...

Your automatic Benz will roll backwards on an upward slope just a second and a hald aftyer you take foot off of the brake pedal if you don't engage HOLD. It is automatic gearbox but will not keep it in position without brake.

There is a short hold function, different from HOLD that holds in both directiuons, that keeps car from rolling backward if you stopped at hill, i.e. when you move your foot from brake to gas the car will not roll back if you move your foot normally fast between the pedals.
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Originally Posted by blackbullit
You have to push the brake pedal TO THE FLOOR to engage the Hold function. I have a 2010 E550 and it is a great feature at long stoplights or for trains.

You do NOT need to push the brake pedal to the floor. You just need to give it a FAST KICK with moderate force. The speed of your press is the key, not how far and strong you press it.
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Hold feature is indeed awesome, I use it at every light. Just be careful when driving your buddies non-MB car and forget it doesn't have hold!
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Originally Posted by Arrie
Your automatic Benz will roll backwards on an upward slope just a second and a hald aftyer you take foot off of the brake pedal if you don't engage HOLD. It is automatic gearbox but will not keep it in position without brake.
A W212 will NOT roll backwards on an upward slope. It is equipped will with "hill start assist" it will hold the brake for a second after you lift your foot off the brake.
You dont have to activate "Hold" on a hill.
But yes I use Hold all the time too. I prefer BMWs automatic Hold Vs MB brake press.
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Originally Posted by Tjdehya
A W212 will NOT roll backwards on an upward slope. It is equipped will with "hill start assist" it will hold the brake for a second after you lift your foot off the brake.
You dont have to activate "Hold" on a hill.
But yes I use Hold all the time too. I prefer BMWs automatic Hold Vs MB brake press.
Interesting, didn't know that.

Also, about the auto up (AND down) windows, you can also activate them by simply keeping your fingers in the lock or unlock position on the handle (as if you're tapping it to lock or unlock the car, just hold it there). Applies only to Keyless Go cars of course.
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Originally Posted by K-A
Interesting, didn't know that.
Here is more info

Hill-Start Assist



Originally Posted by MBUSA.com
Hill-Start Assist
To help prevent unwanted vehicle rollback when taking off from a stop on an uphill slope, Hill-Start Assist automatically maintains brake pressure for approximately one second after the driver releases the brake pedal. The system is automatically deactivated if the vehicle is level, the gear selector is in Park or Neutral, or the parking brake is set.
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Originally Posted by Tjdehya
A W212 will NOT roll backwards on an upward slope. It is equipped will with "hill start assist" it will hold the brake for a second after you lift your foot off the brake.
You dont have to activate "Hold" on a hill.
But yes I use Hold all the time too. I prefer BMWs automatic Hold Vs MB brake press.

Didn't I just say that in my post. It rolls back after about 1.5 seconds after you take foot off of the brake pedal unless you activate HOLD.
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The "Hold" feature is nothing new to cars. Studebaker had that feature on their automatic transmissions in the 1950's and 1960's. The Lark and Gran Turismo models had it.
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Hi all,
After reading these posts, I tried several times and couldn't engage the HOLD function. Is this available to all W212?, in some regions not in Canada?, part of a package (I have E350 - 2010 - P2 package)?, needs something to be done in Engineering screen? Your assistance is highly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by mjahani
Hi all,
After reading these posts, I tried several times and couldn't engage the HOLD function. Is this available to all W212?, in some regions not in Canada?, part of a package (I have E350 - 2010 - P2 package)?, needs something to be done in Engineering screen? Your assistance is highly appreciated.
You just need to figure out the technique; it takes a little practice. Once stopped keep your foot on the brake and give the brake pedal a quick, fairly hard push and let it snap back freely. Works for me anyway...
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Originally Posted by cvinfig
You just need to figure out the technique; it takes a little practice. Once stopped keep your foot on the brake and give the brake pedal a quick, fairly hard push and let it snap back freely. Works for me anyway...

This is exactly how mine works too. Quick fairly hard push on the pedal after stopped. Works every time.
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That weird, it’s a quick very light push for me. It’s just has to be quick. Also don’t lift your foot off the pedal.

Bring the vehicle to a stop. Don’t lift your foot off the brake, then a quick tap about a 1/4" or more further, look for the HOLD in the IC then lift your floor off the brake. Perhaps start with a quick hard push like others have mentioned and once you get a hang of that you can try a quick light push. After a few tries it will become second nature. Good luck.
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Exactly Tjedhya, first time I used it I pushed really hard/quick but once you get the feel for it it's a quick like push once you come to a stop (don't lift your foot off)
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Darn. I really wish my w204 had this feature. I only have hill start assist, but the "hold" feature is reserved to the w212.

Why does mercedes always cut features for the c-class. It is like they are punishing you for getting one. The truth is, I didn't want an e-class - - too big. I like the styling of the c-class and the size, I just hate how its so "dumb". I would have paid extra to get features like this.
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Originally Posted by jctevere
Darn. I really wish my w204 had this feature. I only have hill start assist, but the "hold" feature is reserved to the w212.
I bet the 2012 C will have "Hold"
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Originally Posted by threeMBs
Are you serious? It works on all MB sedans, coupes and convertibles - that have "fob" IR key instead of a "regular" mechanical key - by pointing your remote at driver's side door handle (used to be both front doors, but not for a while now - cost savings you know) for the last 15-16 years. It all started with a 1996 W210 E class. Some of the staff I read on these boards never stops to amaze me. People try this and that, like SB, but do not know basic things their cars have built into them. Its MB's invention, just like airbags were.
I'm confused, in 1965 Eaton Yale and Towne owned the airbag patent in the US, and no automotive company would implement its fabrication and supply until way later. I am positive they had not purchased from MB/Daimler AG, so I assume MB obtained rights to the airbag later, or when the original patent expired. In 1973, my wife got a distinguished mark for her work reporting about the air bag -a then unknown item- from notes and info published by the then Eaton Corporation.

So perhaps, you could fill me in about MB's invention.

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It is common knowledge, and out there as "fact" that M-B developed, and/or patented the first Airbag. Any other knowledge is practically insider, and not exactly "out there". I'd be interested to hear how it really went down as well, as I never knew about Eaton Yale/Towne, nor their development of said Airbag. I wonder what the story is.
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K-A, that's exactly how I meant it. They were the first to put airbag in a car, just like they were the first to use IR fob "key" to start, open/close windows/sunroof on a mass produced car. I did not mean they actually "invented" it (I couldn't care less who), all that's important is they were the first car company (among many, many, many other "firsts") to use it for the application. JoeVal, please do not pick on verbage, you must have know what I meant.
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Originally Posted by threeMBs
Are you serious? It works on all MB sedans, coupes and convertibles - that have "fob" IR key instead of a "regular" mechanical key - by pointing your remote at driver's side door handle (used to be both front doors, but not for a while now - cost savings you know) for the last 15-16 years. It all started with a 1996 W210 E class. Some of the staff I read on these boards never stops to amaze me. People try this and that, like SB, but do not know basic things their cars have built into them. Its MB's invention, just like airbags were.
I had the remote open/close windows back in 1990 on my 91 Toyota MR2 Turbo, it was an option for the aftermarket alarm. I wouldn't say mb invented this but they might have been the first one to make it OEM.
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Originally Posted by cvinfig
You just need to figure out the technique; it takes a little practice. Once stopped keep your foot on the brake and give the brake pedal a quick, fairly hard push and let it snap back freely. Works for me anyway...

And found out today that you can also disable HOLD by giving a quick step on the brake pedal so it can be disabled in two ways. Practical if you are in a downslope slow traffic jam. No need to go to gas pedal.
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OK guys, I found it and now using it. Thanks. Any other hidden cool features?
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Originally Posted by Arrie
And found out today that you can also disable HOLD by giving a quick step on the brake pedal so it can be disabled in two ways. Practical if you are in a downslope slow traffic jam. No need to go to gas pedal.
I didnt know that one, I will have to try it. Thanks for sharing.
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I realized after going over the original post that I mis-communicated. The remote for the Audi doesn't do this...the key does...if you insert the key and turn and hold one direction (I've forgotten which way), all the windows lower (or rise if they're open).

Sorry if that confused folks.


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