4MATIC Staggered Wheels

BAPKC · 05-14-2011, 05:43 PM

Is any one running a staggered setup on a 2011 E350 4Matic? If so what is your set up? My wheel store is telling me not to do it... Help!

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threeMBs · 05-14-2011, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BAPKC

Is any one running a staggered setup on a 2011 E350 4Matic? If so what is your set up? My wheel store is telling me not to do it... Help!

Was discussed here many times. Short answer - yes you can. Are you gaining anything (for 350) by doing so - no, you do not (unless you already have wheels/tires from RWD that you want to "reuse"). For details, do a search, please.

BAPKC · 05-14-2011, 06:45 PM

I did a search..... nothing for 2011....the "gain" is the look...I was asking if any one was actually doing it and what size there set up is... so relax.... I'd like proof that it works, not just some one that "thinks" they know

threeMBs · 05-14-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BAPKC

I did a search..... nothing for 2011....the "gain" is the look...I was asking if any one was actually doing it and what size there set up is... so relax.... I'd like proof that it works, not just some one that "thinks" they know

Listen newbie, YOU relax. I'm no "thinking" - I'm a "professional" in this field and I "know". You want "proof" - I've done it on a multiple W211 and W212 4matic cars with no issues. You do not search for "2011" (FYI cars came out for '10 MY in 2009), search for exactly your topic in W212 forum. You will get a number of hits, then do some DD. For starters, search my posts - you'll find what you want. I do not know why I even bother helping someone with attitude like that. And the only "proof" is when you do it yourself (preferably many times) and not what you read on MB. Good luck reading. Capish?

BAPKC · 05-14-2011, 07:38 PM

Newbie? Thats funny.... Look genius if you dont like what I post ignore it...I still havent found any one that says they have staggered on their car and what tire size they are using... most of the threads just speculate. Just wondering if any one is ignoring the claim that the wheel circumfrance has to be the same front and back. Why would I experiment if its going to f*ck my car up?...

aeggroup · 05-14-2011, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BAPKC

Why would I experiment if its going to f*ck my car up?...

The man gave you straight answer - it does not do anything bad to your car. What do you want more ? ...and Yes...there are many threads discussing this topic with all bunch of positive answers.

K-A · 05-14-2011, 09:05 PM

For the record, if M-B states not to do it, I wouldn't do it. Too complex and drastic a situation to play with. Not to mention, if something does go wrong, and even if you do put the regular wheels back on (to try and fool them into thinking that you never changed the wheels), one has to wonder as to whether they can find out that you used a non-staggered setup.

hyperion667 · 05-14-2011, 09:22 PM

lyjw88 · 05-14-2011, 09:30 PM

I'm running a staggered setup. Just keep the overall diameter the same.

BAPKC · 05-15-2011, 12:13 AM

I'm running a staggered setup. Just keep the overall diameter the same.[/quote]

Thanks .... can you tell me what your set up is?

Tjdehya · 05-15-2011, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BAPKC

I did a search..... nothing for 2011....the "gain" is the look...I was asking if any one was actually doing it and what size there set up is... so relax.... I'd like proof that it works, not just some one that "thinks" they know

read through these, you will find more than people who just "think" about putting staggered wheels on a 4matic.

http://www.mbworld.org/forums/e-clas...n-options.html
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/e-clas...ally-here.html
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/e-clas...res-setup.html
http://www.mbworld.org/forums/e-clas...hotoshops.html

You can also search through the W211 forum. I hate to go through this argument again but I have never seen anything where MB says "not" to put staggered wheels on a 4matic. Mercedes has sold 4matics with staggered wheels before, just because they don't do it anymore does not mean that they say you can't/shouldn't. The largest difference in diameter MB has rolled a 4matic off the production line was .2% so I used that as my limit. But you should aim to get as close to 0% just for peace of mind. IMO

SixPak · 05-15-2011, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjdehya

I hate to go through this argument again but I have never seen anything where MB says "not" to put staggered wheels on a 4matic. Mercedes has sold 4matics with staggered wheels before, just because they don't do it anymore does not mean that they say you can't/shouldn't

Personally I don't think there's anything wrong with going staggered on the 4Matic. But to answer your question regarding MB advising not to go staggered wheels on their 4Matic vehicles, here is a quote from the MBUSA W212 E-class accessories catalog:

Staggered wheel sizes not compatible with 4MATIC all wheel

drive vehicles. Must use front axle size on both front and rear axle.

Tjdehya · 05-15-2011, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SixPak

Personally I don't think there's anything wrong with going staggered on the 4Matic. But to answer your question regarding MB advising not to go staggered wheels on their 4Matic vehicles, here is a quote from the MBUSA W212 E-class accessories catalog:

Staggered wheel sizes not compatible with 4MATIC all wheel

drive vehicles. Must use front axle size on both front and rear axle.

oh boy here we go again, lol, Its a never ending cycle...
To prevent another repeat thread this will be my last post in this thread.

SDMF · 05-15-2011, 03:24 AM

My staggered set up:

19x8.5 offset +33 on the front with 245/35R19

19x9.5 offset +40 on the front with 285/30R19.

hyperion667 · 05-15-2011, 06:45 AM

if anyone DOES ever burn up they're case I wonder if we'll ever know about it.....or read about it......lol....

seems like it'd be to embarresing to post about if you did......lol......

how many miles do you suppose it would take for the transfer case to start
showing the signs?

hyperion667 · 05-15-2011, 06:47 AM

thread this will be my last post

Tjdehya

lyjw88 · 05-15-2011, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BAPKC

I'm running a staggered setup. Just keep the overall diameter the same.

Thanks .... can you tell me what your set up is?[/QUOTE]

19x8.5 with 235/35/19 front
19x9.5 with 285/30/19 rear

vtsnake · 05-28-2011, 12:07 PM

Do you guys realize the C300 4matic Sport comes STOCK with staggered wheels/tires?

Fronts are 225/45R17 (24.97" outside diameter)
Rears are 245/40R17 (24.72" outside diameter)

That's a 1/4" difference from front to rear.

Ummm if there were a problem running staggered, would MB be doing it?

bigigg · 02-22-2012, 04:34 PM

Staggered width isn't the problem.. Its circumfrence.. Keep it the same! Or very close

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05-14-2011, 06:45 PM	#3
BAPKC Newbie Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 10 Drives: S550 4matic	I did a search..... nothing for 2011....the "gain" is the look...I was asking if any one was actually doing it and what size there set up is... so relax.... I'd like proof that it works, not just some one that "thinks" they know

05-14-2011, 07:38 PM	#5
BAPKC Newbie Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 10 Drives: S550 4matic	Newbie? Thats funny.... Look genius if you dont like what I post ignore it...I still havent found any one that says they have staggered on their car and what tire size they are using... most of the threads just speculate. Just wondering if any one is ignoring the claim that the wheel circumfrance has to be the same front and back. Why would I experiment if its going to f*ck my car up?...

05-14-2011, 09:30 PM	#9
lyjw88 Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 250 Drives: E92 335i, W212 E350	I'm running a staggered setup. Just keep the overall diameter the same.

05-15-2011, 12:13 AM	#10
BAPKC Newbie Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 10 Drives: S550 4matic	I'm running a staggered setup. Just keep the overall diameter the same.[/quote] Thanks .... can you tell me what your set up is?

05-15-2011, 03:24 AM	#14
SDMF Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Vancouver B.C. Posts: 61 Drives: E550	My staggered set up: 19x8.5 offset +33 on the front with 245/35R19 19x9.5 offset +40 on the front with 285/30R19.

05-28-2011, 12:07 PM	#18
vtsnake Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 59 Drives: cclass	Do you guys realize the C300 4matic Sport comes STOCK with staggered wheels/tires? Fronts are 225/45R17 (24.97" outside diameter) Rears are 245/40R17 (24.72" outside diameter) That's a 1/4" difference from front to rear. Ummm if there were a problem running staggered, would MB be doing it?

02-22-2012, 04:34 PM	#19
bigigg MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bergen Co,NJ Posts: 1,288 Drives: 2012 E350 4M	Staggered width isn't the problem.. Its circumfrence.. Keep it the same! Or very close

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