YYZ-E55

The new di 350 engine ticks. It is normal but nevertheless unsettling, especially on cold start-up. That doesn't mean it isn't a great engine otherwise. The AMG 6.2s tick too.

No reason to get worked up and make irrelevant comparisons.

Germancar1

LOL even I was like OMG when I first heard that years ago. Mercedes, BMW and strangely enough Maserati's fans and compressors are louder than shyte. Sounds like a drill at an aircraft plant.

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hyperion667

it's true.....there is a bit of ticking when mine is cold

axhoaxho

I have a 2012 E350 Coupe (similar engine & drivetrain to the 2012 E350 Sedan.)

Today when I drove the car home, and its engine was running warm inside the garage, I actually got out of the car standing next to it, and listened.

When the engine was warm, the clicking sound actually was not obvious. The engine sounded just like, an engine.

Regards,

MB-JIM

I took delivery of my 2012 E350 Luxury model today. I have driven it only 30 miles but can't complain about engine noise. Yes, it has a different sound than my 2006 C350. At idle it is very quiet and when you rev the engine you get a pleasant sound of a powerful engine doing what you want it to. The response of the cgi engine is very satisfying. I opened the hood and there was a distinct sound that is a little like the piezo injected diesels but it really quiets down when you close the hood.
So far I'm a very happy camper.

K-A

Exhaust sound and a click/tick from the engine are totally different.

I drove a 2012 E350 today, and I'll say that it literally feels like the old 3.5, but with 30 or so more HP. Very similar feeling when just cruising around, and when you gas it, you get a noticeable extra pep, and when you really get on it, you really feel that extra torque just bump you. I even got some unintended wheel spin off the line at one point. I think the old 3.5 actually accelerates more "luxuriously", as the new one almost has a more violent (cool, to me) takeoff, in comparison.

It didn't make me feel like trading in for it, but I certainly wouldn't mind it! The extra MPG is what upsets me mostly, as the HP isn't such an issue (I wouldn't buy an E350 if power was a leading agenda), however, better MPG WITH the extra HP is like slap in the face.

I noticed a little extra engine "tick" and sound from outside, but with all the ambient noise around, it really didn't seem like a big issue to me. Maybe I have to hear it in a quieter area for it to bug me.

hyperion667

I don't see how you 350 guys can be happy with that WEAK *** 268????


I've been driving this glk 350 and thank ODIN when I get in my 550

ImInPA

Hype, with a large enough *****, you too could be happy with a 350....lol Not everyone needs an extender....lol

K-A

WERD.

We're not all boy racers, Hype.

268 is enough to move you. If I wanted to drive like a reckless d-bag on the streets, sure, I could have used my money more wisely.

I certainly wouldn't complain about the added HP of the new E350, or E550, but I've driven all these cars back to back, and in my more chilled, non reckless/d-bag driving style, and my sizable member, the 268 HP E350 didn't feel all that much slower.

ghstudio

Could we get back to being a little nicer to each other....

K-A

Who's being mean? I just take it as, perhaps somewhat blunt, conversation.

jpparker30

It appears Mercedes is trying to make a more "sporty" car with the additional HP and louder engines. I always felt Mercedes was known for their luxurious smooth ride and BMW was known for their sporty rougher ride. Maybe they should stick to what they are good at, or maybe they are just giving the consumer what they want.

Germancar1

Louder on the AMG engines yes, but there is no intent to make the regular production engines louder. Direct-Injection just makes the engines louder from the outside, which is a something that most car makers deal with when it comes to DI engines. I don't get what the issue is here. Additional HP is just being competitive. The E-Class still isn't a sports sedan.


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BenzMan369

Glad you got to drive one.

Was the trans. in E or S mode when you test drove it?

For me, my coupe in E mode, which starts out in second gear, accelerates extremely smoothly - sometimes a little too leisurely, especially if stopped on the upside of a significant grade not conducive to starting out in second gear. In S mode, in which you're starting out in first gear, I definitely agree with you about the "cool" factor! As I'm sure you know, all of this gets even better as you put some miles on the engine and the trans. learns what your expectations are (adaptive feature).

Agreed also on the MPG. It is utterly amazing to me that I'm getting 1-2 mpg more in local driving and up to 3-4 mpg more on the highway, as compared to the smaller, lighter CLK320 I traded, with its 215hp V6. And with all that extra performance as a bonus.

I'll say it again, my car is dead silent inside except for a mild acceleration drone (more "cool"?). I can't imagine any driver being bugged by the sounds from the new D.I. V6, unless perhaps one manages to drive it strapped to the hood! But that's just me.

RNBRAD

Different strokes for different folks. I'm really happy either way cause this last week I have been driving the old e320. I do have a 550, but I rarely tap into all that power. Most people that drive this kind of car look stupid stomping down on it anyway unless justified. Power wise, even after crawling out of the 550, I'm not unsatisfied with the 320. If you drive like a normal person, there really is no specific need for a 550. If the occasional ricer pulls up, yes I like to be in the 550, but realistically, how often does that happen? All that bigger motors do is give a person bragging rights. Real world benefits of having a 550 over a 350 is very limited.

ttoE550

It puts a smile on my face even if I am all alone with nobody to impress. That's real world benefit enough for me.

K-A

Yeah, it was in "S" mode. I agree, it really has a nice push/bump when you hit the accelerator hard. I think E and S have a better reason to exist now.

I agree, and that's why I always say that after driving 350's/550's, with my driving style, they feel very similar. I probably have never called upon all my 268 Horses, so if I were to get an E550/E63/etc., it would be for bragging rights and the added incentive to get myself into trouble.

LILBENZ230

The Lexus 3.5L DI engine in the IS350 is not loud or obnoxious in any way. Haven't heard the new CGI engines from Benz yet, but can't imagine they're as bad as you guys say.

MB-JIM

I can't see what all the fuss is about. My 2012 E350 is virtually silent at idle and makes a pleasant sound when accelerating. If you want noise, try the C250 Turbo cgi engine. Now, that one makes noise.

K-A

Yuck, I was at the M-B Dealership, and heard the unmistakable sound of a 4-banger "rattle" in the lot. Very oddly not "normal" to what I usually hear in an M-B lot, I turned around and saw one of many C250 Coupes, this one being brought back in from a Test Drive. I guess this is gonna become the new "normal" for M-B.

Wig

K-A - how is the volume of the 5.5L V8 (2011 and earlier) compared to our 3.5L V6 engines (2011 and earlier)?

K-A

I like sound of V8's better, a deeper, throatier tone. It goes without saying that a V8 will have a deeper tone when accelerating, but at idle, you're be more hard pressed to tell. The "thinner" the sound to me, the easier it is to tell which is a 6 or 8, however, you can't mistake that crude sound of a 4-cylinder. As far as idle-loudness, I guess I never payed enough attention to tell (between the old 3.5L & 5.5L), and both are pretty quiet. To note, M-B motors have always had a "tick" at idle, so I'm assuming the main issue is that the new 3.5L simply and slightly exacerbates that.

I always thought that the now-old 3.5L was one of the better sounding mass-production V6's, due mainly to a deeper/throatier tone to it. I found the new 3.5L to feel and sound similar enough (while driving) to where, unless I smashed the gas pedal down, I probably couldn't even tell a difference between the two motors.

BenzMan369

Well, at least MB is consistent. Now they build a car that not only looks like a Honda Accord Coupe, but sounds like one as well!

Yuck indeed.

stemags

The engine sound from this present car and the sound from my sold E is remarkably different.The 02 E had a tick noise hot and cold,,this 10 E is absolutely quiet,,even standing outside. Only thing I notice is if I turn the wheel all the way to one side or the other,,the power steering moans a bit,, rolling or standing still,,checked the fluid and its full and clean..anyone else notice this?

oggie

I completely agree.