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04-26-2012, 08:08 AM
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Transmission Fluids type
I own a 08 E350 with 64000 miles and it's time for a tranny fluid change, my problem is before I order I would like to get the correct fuild type for the car and a location to order it from since I'm stationed in italy and they charges to much for oil on the market. Also, where can I order the filter and oil sump pan seal from? When changing the tranny fluid is it just a drain and fill similar to engine oil or is they a way to get it out of the torque converter as well.
Thanks in advance...
Flexx
Thanks in advance...
Flexx
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04-26-2012, 03:06 PM
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Some shops will do a full flush of the transmission. I'd prefer to do a drain and fill a couple of times within 1000 miles or so of each other. I am not sure if I'm sold on the fluid flush. The dealer did a fluid flush on my C320 (contaminated with glycol) and it has been fine for 20k+ miles since the repair.
04-26-2012, 11:05 PM
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In Europe you may be able to purchase Shell ATF 134, which is approved for the 722.9 transmission. The filter and pan gasket are not all that expensive from Mercedes, at least over here. It may not be worth the trouble to order it from here and ship overseas.
04-27-2012, 04:04 AM
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Good point, I think there should be no problem using Dextron VI
04-27-2012, 04:24 AM
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On the italian market they are asking 15 euro a pop for tranny oil so it might be better to order it for the states. As for the seal i will check the prices. So either the Dextron VI or Shell ATF 134 should be good right? Thanks for the info.
04-27-2012, 04:57 AM
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Yup, to set your mind at ease I think you should also download service manual from MB USA because I have just peeked the owners manual regarding tranny and come up with nothing 
Here's the link for you to download :
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/servic...enance_manuals
Here's the link for you to download :
http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/servic...enance_manuals
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05-02-2012, 08:14 PM
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Be careful with fluid flushing. Standard MB transmission service is drain, filter change, and fill. That is what my Indy does.
My E320 (W210) had its transmission destroyed by MB dealer who did a transmission flush. Took about 15 k to show signs. Cost me 6K to fix!
My E320 (W210) had its transmission destroyed by MB dealer who did a transmission flush. Took about 15 k to show signs. Cost me 6K to fix!
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05-02-2012, 09:08 PM
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The C-Class forum stickies and other threads have a LOT of good information on changing the fluid in the 722.9 transmission. Including instructions from M-B. Is this your second fluid change? Don't forget new screws for the pan.
Good luck.
Wayne
Ps: Would someone explain the difference between fluid drain and fluid flush? I do know that the newer models need the torque converter drained for a total of 8-9 quarts/liters.
Thanks.
Good luck.
Wayne
Ps: Would someone explain the difference between fluid drain and fluid flush? I do know that the newer models need the torque converter drained for a total of 8-9 quarts/liters.
Thanks.
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05-02-2012, 09:38 PM
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I would still recommend the MB approved fluid (which includes Shell ATF 134). The only 722.9 equipped car I remember seeing with a torque converter drain was a 350SLK. Usually you end up using around 5 quarts.
A bit off topic, we were told at a AMG Private Lounge event of a new MB fluid they are going to start using that is supposed to allow an incremental fuel economy improvement. Other than being blue in color, I wasn't able to find out anything else, how it worked or whether it was back-warders compatible.
If I can find out more I will post it.
A bit off topic, we were told at a AMG Private Lounge event of a new MB fluid they are going to start using that is supposed to allow an incremental fuel economy improvement. Other than being blue in color, I wasn't able to find out anything else, how it worked or whether it was back-warders compatible.
If I can find out more I will post it.
05-02-2012, 11:35 PM
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I would still recommend the MB approved fluid (which includes Shell ATF 134). The only 722.9 equipped car I remember seeing with a torque converter drain was a 350SLK. Usually you end up using around 5 quarts.
A bit off topic, we were told at a AMG Private Lounge event of a new MB fluid they are going to start using that is supposed to allow an incremental fuel economy improvement. Other than being blue in color, I wasn't able to find out anything else, how it worked or whether it was back-warders compatible.
If I can find out more I will post it.
A bit off topic, we were told at a AMG Private Lounge event of a new MB fluid they are going to start using that is supposed to allow an incremental fuel economy improvement. Other than being blue in color, I wasn't able to find out anything else, how it worked or whether it was back-warders compatible.
If I can find out more I will post it.
Wayne
05-03-2012, 11:18 AM
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First hit on a search of this forum for 722.9.
https://mbworld.org/forums/clk-class...id-change.html
Hope it helps. There are countless other similar threads.
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https://mbworld.org/forums/clk-class...id-change.html
Hope it helps. There are countless other similar threads.
Wayne
05-03-2012, 02:03 PM
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No - It is lazy BS. Tell them to consult the WIS. A service includes draining the TC. They will give you a load of BS on access - It's easy. You pull a rubber plug out of the bell housing ~ rotate the engine until the TC drain plug lines up ~ remove it & drain. Replace the plug with a new one microencapsulated with sealer.
We have had a number of US members on the W203 forum take their cars back & have the job done properly. US dealers always want to do the minimum work for the maximum price. If SA dealers can do it properly then so can US ones. In SA Benz is paying under Motorplan & they still do it properly.
TC drains were removed in 1999 from the 722.6 5 speed transmission - dumb move that required a 14 quart flush.
On 722.9 7 speed the TC drain plug was reintroduced so that you could service the transmission properly.
722.9 transmissions should have a fluid & filter change EVERY 39K miles - even Vietnam gets it right.
MBUSA & their dealer network are largely to blame for your high rate of 722.9 failures with their filled for life ~ change once ~ then do a half job attitude.
Mixing oxidised fluid with new fluid catalyses oxidation in the new fluid shortening it's service life.
We have had a number of US members on the W203 forum take their cars back & have the job done properly. US dealers always want to do the minimum work for the maximum price. If SA dealers can do it properly then so can US ones. In SA Benz is paying under Motorplan & they still do it properly.
TC drains were removed in 1999 from the 722.6 5 speed transmission - dumb move that required a 14 quart flush.
On 722.9 7 speed the TC drain plug was reintroduced so that you could service the transmission properly.
722.9 transmissions should have a fluid & filter change EVERY 39K miles - even Vietnam gets it right.
MBUSA & their dealer network are largely to blame for your high rate of 722.9 failures with their filled for life ~ change once ~ then do a half job attitude.
Mixing oxidised fluid with new fluid catalyses oxidation in the new fluid shortening it's service life.
05-03-2012, 06:22 PM
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Took the car in today to one of these on post (military) repair shops and the guy couldn't change my oil becuase he doesn't have the pump to refill the tranny and since i'm in italy and don't know any of these shops so I have to take to the MB. Problems on both ends the language and the euro prices... Ill let you all know how much it cost...
