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Lexus LS 400, 2008 BMW 528i, 2014 e250 BlueTec
I read through last page with happy feeling that I made right decision to go with e250. I am agreeing with all positives I've read. Same MPG as Toyota Prius? I have confirmed it and I am really impressed. For all practical purpose the Viv. people talked about is so negligible I don't notice! Mileage meter on 2014 is different and read much more accurate, too.
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Over at the GLK Forum, the 2014 GLK250BT are having issues with persistent CEL triggering AdBlue no-start after 10 restarts warnings.
So far over 30 cases has been reported and M-B hasn't found a permanent fix other than applying software updates and changing NOX sensors.
There is even one case from Germany (2013 GLK250BT) with the same problem.
So far I haven't heard of any E250BT with this issue, unless it's too new and not many are on the road.
So far over 30 cases has been reported and M-B hasn't found a permanent fix other than applying software updates and changing NOX sensors.
There is even one case from Germany (2013 GLK250BT) with the same problem.
So far I haven't heard of any E250BT with this issue, unless it's too new and not many are on the road.
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2014 E250 (own), 2011 E350 wagon (own), 2006 C230 (sold)
I had a problem within 1500 miles where the engine would turn over but not start, and a new diesel control module needed to be ordered from Germany. I do not regret having this car, just not being able to drive it for a week.
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2014 Mercedes E250
I've had my E250 Rwd 9000 miles at this time. Good ride and comfort. Performance very good, but not a race car. Allowing for an error in the mpg gauge, getting 32 mpg city and 45 highway (50 mpg under ideal conditions). It used 3 gallons of DEF for this distance. So, the 6 gallon DEF tank is more than adequate between scheduled services. I put my own in at $9 for 2 and a half gallons compared to dealer at $15 for the half gallon used to make a no spill funnel from the bottle. Only problem was AM radio (old school) didn't work. The dealer never found out why, but it started working as soon as everything put back together. Stop-start system is a minor nuisance, but easily turned off as part of normal start up. Eco score and instant mpg displays useless. Am I satisfied. Yes. But, coming from a larger and more powerful car, I occasionally miss it until I pull up to the pump.
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2015 E250 BT 4M
I've had my E250 Rwd 9000 miles at this time. Good ride and comfort. Performance very good, but not a race car. Allowing for an error in the mpg gauge, getting 32 mpg city and 45 highway (50 mpg under ideal conditions). It used 3 gallons of DEF for this distance. So, the 6 gallon DEF tank is more than adequate between scheduled services. I put my own in at $9 for 2 and a half gallons compared to dealer at $15 for the half gallon used to make a no spill funnel from the bottle. Only problem was AM radio (old school) didn't work. The dealer never found out why, but it started working as soon as everything put back together. Stop-start system is a minor nuisance, but easily turned off as part of normal start up. Eco score and instant mpg displays useless. Am I satisfied. Yes. But, coming from a larger and more powerful car, I occasionally miss it until I pull up to the pump.
Do you find the passing power on two lane highways to be adequate ?
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E250 a competent road cruiser
The E250's passing power isn't as good as my hopped up 300C was, but it's good enough. Additionally, it runs up steep hills and passes like they aren't there. You don't feel the gear shifts as the ECM and TCM work seamlessly to maintain fairly constant rpms. Engine noise is very low. If you know what you're listening for, you can tell it's a four banger and, when idling, a diesel. You really have to stomp on the accelerator to make it heard. It's apparent that Mercedes intended this car to be competent road cruiser.
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The E250's passing power isn't as good as my hopped up 300C was, but it's good enough. Additionally, it runs up steep hills and passes like they aren't there. You don't feel the gear shifts as the ECM and TCM work seamlessly to maintain fairly constant rpms. Engine noise is very low. If you know what you're listening for, you can tell it's a four banger and, when idling, a diesel. You really have to stomp on the accelerator to make it heard. It's apparent that Mercedes intended this car to be competent road cruiser.
However, I did find that this car quickly accelerates well beyond highway speed limits ! Passing on a double lane highway was effortless. I was actually surprised that it seemed almost as fast as my V6 E350BT.
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'12 Jaguar XKR-S, '15 GL63, '18 Navigator L, 2015 E250
Placed an order for a 2015 E250 a few weeks ago. I have been told to expect it at the end of October, or early November. Anybody else have an order out there?
It is a pretty optioned car but I skipped just a few things, like the pano roof. I did go for the Nappa leather though, which I imagine is a kind of rare option for the E250.
It is a pretty optioned car but I skipped just a few things, like the pano roof. I did go for the Nappa leather though, which I imagine is a kind of rare option for the E250.
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2015 E250 BT 4M
Placed an order for a 2015 E250 a few weeks ago. I have been told to expect it at the end of October, or early November. Anybody else have an order out there?
It is a pretty optioned car but I skipped just a few things, like the pano roof. I did go for the Nappa leather though, which I imagine is a kind of rare option for the E250.
It is a pretty optioned car but I skipped just a few things, like the pano roof. I did go for the Nappa leather though, which I imagine is a kind of rare option for the E250.
Surprised that you were able to order 'Nappa' leather; only the regular leather option is available for Canadian purchasers of E250BT. But at least we get the Artico leather stitched dash and window sills as part of the 'leather package'. IMO, the real leather seats are so much nicer (to touch and to smell) than the MBTex, especially in hot weather.
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BsbAMG: Congrats on your choice !
Surprised that you were able to order 'Nappa' leather; only the regular leather option is available for Canadian purchasers of E250BT. But at least we get the Artico leather stitched dash and window sills as part of the 'leather package'. IMO, the real leather seats are so much nicer (to touch and to smell) than the MBTex, especially in hot weather.
Surprised that you were able to order 'Nappa' leather; only the regular leather option is available for Canadian purchasers of E250BT. But at least we get the Artico leather stitched dash and window sills as part of the 'leather package'. IMO, the real leather seats are so much nicer (to touch and to smell) than the MBTex, especially in hot weather.
What is the Artico leather?
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2015 E250 BT 4M
All E250BT for Canada come with black headliner as a default, but beige can also be chosen.
Artico is a man-made leather, used for covering the dash and window sills when the leather package is ordered. Artico looks like the real thing, but it is supposed to stand up better to UV light. My 2013 E350BT has the leather package with the stitched Artico dash/window sills.
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Still less than 2000km on my wife's E250, but very happy with ride quality. Acceleration is adequate for daily driving, and enough power is available to pass. In Canada, all E250s are 4matic. About a week ago, I decided to try spinning the wheels. Disabled the VSC, put the tranny in sport mode, and mashed the throttle - no luck.
Even tried to pre-load the engine to max torque RPMs before releasing the brake - still no luck. This is definitely no performance vehicle.
Will need to wait for my E63 before I can shred tires again.
Even tried to pre-load the engine to max torque RPMs before releasing the brake - still no luck. This is definitely no performance vehicle.
Will need to wait for my E63 before I can shred tires again.
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2014 E250 Bluetec 4matic
The E250's passing power isn't as good as my hopped up 300C was, but it's good enough. Additionally, it runs up steep hills and passes like they aren't there. You don't feel the gear shifts as the ECM and TCM work seamlessly to maintain fairly constant rpms. Engine noise is very low. If you know what you're listening for, you can tell it's a four banger and, when idling, a diesel. You really have to stomp on the accelerator to make it heard. It's apparent that Mercedes intended this car to be competent road cruiser.
They really "hid" a lot of the torque over in Sport mode. I find Economy mode perfectly adequate for almost everything except passing quickly.
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E250 Sport Mode
The Sport Mode is a bit of gimmick to give the car a bit more of the feel of a sports car. All it does is hold the gears into higher rpms before shifting. Naturally, the engine sounds a bit throatier and more powerful; but with a diesel the torque curve is a lot flatter than that of a gasoline engine. So, nearly all the torque is available through the entire rpm range. Only electric motors do better at this. At speeds below interstate, the 2.1, 194 hp, diesel will give a 360 hp hemi a run for its money because their torque is nearly the same. However, the gas powered car can deliver more rpms and will pull away at high speeds. What running sport mode will do is make you feel better if you're a racer and burn more fuel.
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Or is it that if you perforate Artico it becomes MB tex...???
May be someone from Europe can chime in.
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So you are saying that Artico is a different product than MB Tex. My understanding was that both are the same product but it is called Artico in Europe and other countries (possibly due to "MB Taxi" connotation).
Or is it that if you perforate Artico it becomes MB tex...???
May be someone from Europe can chime in.
Or is it that if you perforate Artico it becomes MB tex...???
May be someone from Europe can chime in.
However, unlike the Artico/MB Tex for seats, the product that is used for dash/window sill covering is NOT perforated.
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I know there will be people that will doubt the claims of this new engine but I thought it would be helpful to post my experiences. I purchased a 2014 e250 bluetec and did the European delivery program. I drove the car approximately 1500 miles through varied terrain in German, Austria, Switzerland, Lichtenstein, Italy and Slovakia.
I had the opportunity to regularly cruise at 140 MPH (After break in). My mileage at 80 -100 was consistently 43-45 MPG. When cruising back roads at 50-60 MPG with a fully loaded car I consistently got 55-65 MPG. This is real world, a new engine and not hypermiling it. I took a picture as proof of driving time, and average speed.
Fantastic card in every respect!
I had the opportunity to regularly cruise at 140 MPH (After break in). My mileage at 80 -100 was consistently 43-45 MPG. When cruising back roads at 50-60 MPG with a fully loaded car I consistently got 55-65 MPG. This is real world, a new engine and not hypermiling it. I took a picture as proof of driving time, and average speed.
Fantastic card in every respect!
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E250BT fuel consumption
Natet: impressive figures ! Based on computer readout ? Is your car RWD ?
North American production cars are limited to 210 kph or 130 mph. How did you manage 140 mph on the autobahn ?
North American production cars are limited to 210 kph or 130 mph. How did you manage 140 mph on the autobahn ?
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