dejongj

Yup that is their stock response. Very strange they remain with it. The fact that they are aware and have devised a stock response would be tale telling

rexgold

Well.. after rejecting all their arguments, they finally called me back with asking for the dealer to review the car/issue and work out what is causing it.. (another stock response). So I have now arranged for the car to be looked at week after next.. will see what they come back with. I suspect, the same response.. will kick up fuss then. @dejongj, did your dealer come back to you??

dejongj

Amazingly, my dealer has just come back as well with a request for me to make an appointment with their workshop controller to investigate what I am experiencing.

I can't help but wonder whether Mercedes UK is starting to sit up and pay attention and has authorised investigations and issued a bulletin to their dealer network.

I'm pleased, it is a little step, but at least they are now willing to listen and investigate. No time for that cigar yet, but I really like the car so all I want is for them to take it seriously.

Matteus GLC AMG

Thanks JP, I hope you're right. Looks like quite a few others have now posted on the Honest John site. If I was able to gain some comfort that a proper 4 wheel alignment would fix the issue then I'd probably be ok. However, I guess I'd then be asking why MB doesn't do this before the car is delivered!! (presumably that's what they're thinking as well!)

dejongj

I'm getting more C43 boys now paying attention as well. Seems to be getting quite widespread with the RHD C43 as well. I'm also pointing them in the Honest John direction as I think the press involvement is starting to help getting the attention.

PS. They are responding on the private invitation only Mercedes AMG hosted Private Lounge forum.

Matteus GLC AMG

Thanks JP. Do you mean LHD above? When you say 'as well' it implies that the non-UK (ie predominantly LHD) vehicles are also now being affected?

dejongj

no definitely RHD only. I meant that besides the GLC also the C class is affected. I'm getting a lot of response from the C43 UK owners on the AMG forums who also have this issue. I assume most 4matic C class are just the AMG models.

GLC220Exclusive

edofloat

I would say that the binding feeling in the drive line is nowhere near as severe as a 4x4 in high lock on pavement. But it does exhibit the same type of binding, just much more subdued, not enough to make the vehicle buck like a 4x4 pickup in lock. I would venture to say that all GLCs have this behavior to some extent. You need to make a U-turn or a sustained 180-degree turn, like in a parking ramp. Turning 90 degrees around a corner in normal driving does not seem to bind up the driveline much. On the very first U-turn I noticed the binding. We currently have snow and ice covered roads, and I don't feel the binding in those conditions, but if enough pavement is exposed it happens.

Can't figure out why others would not notice such as this either. Other than I think of this: my wife didn't notice when the tranny started going out on her Accord, I'm like how can you miss the slipping? She also burned out a tranny on her Jeep, it leaked fluid, she just knew it didn't want to move, so she just gave it more throttle, the V8 cooked the tranny in under two blocks. That being said, I won't let her drive my GLC. Much.

dejongj

LHD Press vehicles. I've mentioned it before all images we're the same for all vehicles. Not saying that it was done on purpose but I do think they've dropped the ball.

dejongj

i agree it is not as severe, but it is definitely there. I also wonder how many people have actually driven an 4x4 with high gearing long and often enough to recognise this. I mean the GLC is after all an SUV and a small one at that. Perhaps for many even the first 4matic vehicle as well. As such I have some appreciation that people may not recognise it.

The Mercedes WIS is detailing a difference in the transfer casing between LHD and RHD vehicles. So it could very well be that a LHD is limited to a light feeling and when doing a 180 only whilst on a RHD it does it persistently even when doing a 90 degree turn.

I dont know dor for a fact I am no mechanic just have driven my fair share of 4x4 vehicles both privately and in the army (my G wagon ).

decorily

My RHD 250d has minimal scrubbing. It has been a feature of all my previous 4x4s to varying degrees. I presume the affect is increased with the wider tires found on AMGs.

dejongj

Nah this is different, it is also doing it on the entry level wheels. I was running the same 21" albeit slightly wider on my GL class. I was running 320 wide on a pickup truck. It is doing it when it shouldn't be doing this at all, as I said under certain circumstances a 4x4 can do this, absolutely, but not like these are.

Philamg

No scrubbing at all on my Discovery sport.

Matteus GLC AMG

...or horsepower

URBassman

Or my wife's Evoque.

Matteus GLC AMG

Ditto....

Philamg

The point is that 4 wheel drives can be designed to steer correctly, at low speeds where it is occuring on the GLC horsepower is irrelevant.

dejongj

Exactly!

And Mercedes can as well. There was none of this on my GL and I know rexgolds ML he had before this also didn't do it.

dieseldoc

Never had this with my GL either. Current Mercedes are rear wheel drive. Never had with my Range Rover or BMW X5

rexgold

Nor the 2 ML's I have had either..

Matteus GLC AMG

Correct. I was making an ill judged attempt at humour relating to the engine power currently available on Disco sports.

Philamg

No problem Matteus, you are correct about the engine power on DS, could do with more, I am worried that I am leaving LR because of quality issues and would be very unhappy if I had this issue on my car in March, the response from MB seems very similar to some of the responses from LR.

dejongj

It will be a difficult one if Mercedes can't fix it, we did have a conversation in our house hold as to what alternative we possibly would like;


Maserati Levante - get a yes lets try it from the rest of the family but I'm doubtful regarding jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
Jaguar F-Pace but in super charged version. My wife is ok, but eldest daughter is NOOOOO way too common
Mercedes GLS - again - loved that car, but my wife is no too big which was the reason we downsized.
Tesla Model X - I like it, it can be very fast as well, but my eldest daughter hates that it doesn't make any noise and is embarrassed by the doors. My youngest loves it as it may be the most eco friendly option. My wife is thinks it is a mans car.
Lamborghini Urus - Love it, but lets be real I can't afford it

BMW X4 no petrol engines, no M model.
Audi Q5 no petrol engines, no RS model.
Porsche Macan, too cramped

Damn this is really hard

rexgold

None of the above for me..

Don't like Maserati.
F-Pace, crap interior
GLS is too big for us
Tesla - don't like the looks of it and lack of engine noise is a non starter
Lambo - hmmm.. sell the house and live in the lambo. May not work out though.
X4 -Q5 Agreed. No Petrol engine so no go. Macan, like the outside but crap and cramp inside.

I would go with a GLE 43AMG Coupe or a E Class 43AMG Estate...