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Old 02-21-2017, 11:15 AM
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Slow Sales For The GLE?

Jan 20, 2017 article:

"Over the last month, GLE sales fell 16.1 percent, while sales in the luxury midsize SUV segment increased 4 percent. Over the past year, Mercedes-Benz prices have fallen 1.3 percent, while the rest of the industry has benefitted from nearly 2 percent price inflation."

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Slow sales for the BMW X5 also:

"X5 sales were down 13.4 percent in 2016, even while overall sales for the segment experienced 3.5 percent growth in that time.

On top of that, prices for BMW vehicles have slipped 8.4 percent over the last year, which is one of the largest declines for any mainstream brand. It’s not due to low quality though..."

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Actually... kind of a Segway thing.. the GLC's ... especially more "loaded" at $52K-$55K price point have been so much higher than expected...and that has been a major impact factor on GLE's...
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Originally Posted by E55 KEV
Jan 20, 2017 article:

"Over the last month, GLE sales fell 16.1 percent
Not sure about this - here are volumes of US Total Registrations of GLE ( all GLE models) by month...
Month MAKE MODEL VOL
201601 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 2,967
201602 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,326
201603 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,698
201604 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,330
201605 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,849
201606 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,831
201607 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,594
201608 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,758
201609 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,818
201610 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,377
201611 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 4,072
201612 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 5,152
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Originally Posted by Alex Bel
Not sure about this - here are volumes of US Total Registrations of GLE ( all GLE models) by month...
Month MAKE MODEL VOL
201601 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 2,967
201602 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,326
201603 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,698
201604 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,330
201605 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,849
201606 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,831
201607 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,594
201608 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,758
201609 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,818
201610 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,377
201611 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 4,072
201612 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 5,152
I believe the article is talking about GLE sales for 1 month only - Dec 2016 to Jan 2017 fell 16.1%. It appears sales tank in Jan for the GLE as shown for our 201601 stat.

Your numbers prove the articles point about slow sales from Dec to Jan. Look at the difference in 201601 and 201612 units sold. 2,967 in Jan 2016 and 5,152 in Dec 2016.

If you have numbers for 201512 and 201701 that would help.

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Originally Posted by Alex Bel
Not sure about this - here are volumes of US Total Registrations of GLE ( all GLE models) by month...
Month MAKE MODEL VOL
201601 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 2,967
201602 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,326
201603 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,698
201604 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,330
201605 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,849
201606 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,831
201607 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,594
201608 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,758
201609 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,818
201610 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 3,377
201611 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 4,072
201612 MERCEDES-BENZ GLE 5,152
Looking at the number you see a 19% increase for 201611 and almost 35%+ sales for 201612 over the prior 9 months. I think you're seeing a January sales number decrease because of pull ahead holiday buyers. Who purchased there cars in the holiday season, hoping for the best deals. If sale continue to decline in the next few month then you've got a trend line.

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The X5 certainly hasn't declined in sales, they are everywhere. Also the new X5 is surprisingly more expensive than the GLE. So I believe the report about BMW sales is false. I haven't seen a lot of new GLEs around, the old Ms are everywhere. Also as you can see, there isn't even that many people in this GLE forum while the X5 bimmerpost forum is full of people posting their new X5s. the X5 should still be the No.1 selling luxury SUV if I'm not mistaken. I would say second place would be Audi SUVs. But Audi is just missing something to me. So I'm gonna go with the 2017 BMW X5. After a lot of consideration, the GLE, Range Rover, Audi, Porsche etc. I'm going with the X5! It's got everything, classic design, technology, luxury, comfort, off roading etc. the GLE has an awful design for me, like this big ugly plain box. Also looks like a Ford Explorer if you think about it. also too similar to the previous M class. Range Rover don't feel luxurious, it's just a good off roading vehicle, missing a lot of things. The only Porsche I'll get is the 911, that's why the X5 is a winner.

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The X5 certainly hasn't declined in sales, they are everywhere. Also the new X5 is surprisingly more expensive than the GLE. So I believe the report about BMW sales is false. I haven't seen a lot of new GLEs around, the old Ms are everywhere. Also as you can see, there isn't even that many people in this GLE forum while the X5 bimmerpost forum is full of people posting their new X5s.
the X5 should still be the No.1 selling luxury SUV if I'm not mistaken. I would say second place would be Audi SUVs.
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the X5 should still be the No.1 selling luxury SUV if I'm not mistaken. I would say second place would be Audi SUVs.
Are you asking people's opinion for BMW on MEB forum?
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The problem for GLE350 decline is the very low supply.

"Mercedes retailers push for more trucks
Mercedes sales could rise in 2017. But dealers say they still need an increase in SUV and crossover suppliers to meet growing truck demand." Automotive news Jan2017

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Personally, that's part of the appeal. I don't want to see dozens of cars like mine every time I drive around the block. Just this past weekend my wife and I were sitting in a restaurant at a window seat. My car was in view. I noticed a guy (and his wife) with his hand to his brow, leaning toward the driver's window of my car looking in. Then, he stepped back and ogled the car from a distance. Obviously, he'd never seen that particular model before. In fact, I've yet to see another one on the road myself. I like that uniqueness. My point? I couldn't care less how few they sell. When I asked my salesman why they're so rare, he said that's by design. MB doesn't want these to become a dime a dozen. They want them to be "sought after". Whether or not that's true, I don't know. But I'm not complaining.

Of course, I'm referring to the Coupe. I can't attest to whether this is the case with the SUV.
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the X5 should still be the No.1 selling luxury SUV if I'm not mistaken. I would say second place would be Audi SUVs.
Originally Posted by Alex Bel
Are you asking people's opinion for BMW on MEB forum?
retard I'm obviously not even asking a question especially not you lol. Get out.
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The riding comfort of the X5 compared to GLE is duable. I have driven both cars, the X5 with and without M-sport package, only diesel versions. The GLE has quiter interior and engine. Without M-pack the X5 feels heavy and unstable on the road, similar to GLE in comfort mode, with the M-pack it is extremely agile but on not-perfect road surfaces the suspension feels very harsh. Everything is a matter of taste. Just for info I'm a previous BMW owner and liked my vehicle a lot.
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Originally Posted by GLE43_Sube
Personally, that's part of the appeal. I don't want to see dozens of cars like mine every time I drive around the block. Just this past weekend my wife and I were sitting in a restaurant at a window seat. My car was in view. I noticed a guy (and his wife) with his hand to his brow, leaning toward the driver's window of my car looking in. Then, he stepped back and ogled the car from a distance. Obviously, he'd never seen that particular model before. In fact, I've yet to see another one on the road myself. I like that uniqueness. My point? I couldn't care less how few they sell. When I asked my salesman why they're so rare, he said that's by design. MB doesn't want these to become a dime a dozen. They want them to be "sought after". Whether or not that's true, I don't know. But I'm not complaining.

Of course, I'm referring to the Coupe. I can't attest to whether this is the case with the SUV.
Here is the problem. Both Coupe and SUV are made in Alabama for US and European market and is not like MB don't want to have as many as Coupe's available for sale but because of high demand in both markets the priority production is for SUV. That's a reason why Coupe's are rare but your guy is also right MB want's to keep the AMG GLE43C a little exclusivity.
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The X5 certainly hasn't declined in sales, they are everywhere. Also the new X5 is surprisingly more expensive than the GLE. So I believe the report about BMW sales is false. I haven't seen a lot of new GLEs around, the old Ms are everywhere. Also as you can see, there isn't even that many people in this GLE forum while the X5 bimmerpost forum is full of people posting their new X5s. the X5 should still be the No.1 selling luxury SUV if I'm not mistaken. I would say second place would be Audi SUVs. But Audi is just missing something to me. So I'm gonna go with the 2017 BMW X5. After a lot of consideration, the GLE, Range Rover, Audi, Porsche etc. I'm going with the X5! It's got everything, classic design, technology, luxury, comfort, off roading etc. the GLE has an awful design for me, like this big ugly plain box. Also looks like a Ford Explorer if you think about it. also too similar to the previous M class. Range Rover don't feel luxurious, it's just a good off roading vehicle, missing a lot of things. The only Porsche I'll get is the 911, that's why the X5 is a winner.
I didn't see you comment about how really awful the engine performance is on a standard X5 35i. It is abominable. The sluggishness and hesitation between shifts is unbearable. Reminds me of riding in a lawnmower. Put engine in a 3-series where it belongs and performs. If I did a lot of highway driving I would go for the X5 50i - now that's an SUV! That N63U engine also has it's share of problems but it will outperform the new GLE 43 SUV - nothing beats an 8-cylnder engine, as far as I'm concerned.

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Have to love V8s especially in SUVs. I would have a serious problem buying any luxury SUV with a 4 cylinder even with Turbos or Super chargers.
You are sooo correct! Try driving the 4-cylinder Volvo SUV or Range Rover sport, both with with the supercharged engine - and they think this is special?
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GLE unit sales for 2017:

Jan 2017 - 3,970 units

Feb 2017 - 4,017 units

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300416145.html

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Originally Posted by E55 KEV
GLE unit sales for 2017:

Jan 2017 - 3,970 units

Feb 2017 - 4,017 units

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300416145.html
What struck me most is GLE is number 2 among MB models. Sales of the GLE are higher than all class, but the C's wow.
That's YTD and M/M sales, the pricing must be just right or the market for mid size luxury crossover is very deep. MB is selling more GLE than BMW is X5's.
BMW X5 U.S. Sales 2017
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February
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BMW X5 U.S. Sales 2017
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Do you have the numbers for the X6? The GLE sales include the GLE Coupe.
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Do you have the numbers for the X6? The GLE sales include the GLE Coupe.
2017 X1 X3 X4 X5 X6
January 2351 3154 211 3276 426
February 2050 4020 282 3900 469
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January 2007 3065 3970 2336
February 2194 2764 4017 2467
USA sales only not counting Canada.
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2017 X1 X3 X4 X5 X6
January 2351 3154 211 3276 426
February 2050 4020 282 3900 469
GLA GLC GLE GLS
January 2007 3065 3970 2336
February 2194 2764 4017 2467
USA sales only not counting Canada.
Cool! Thanks.
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Originally Posted by E55 KEV
GLE unit sales for 2017:

Jan 2017 - 3,970 units

Feb 2017 - 4,017 units

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...300416145.html
My sources show close picture:
Feb 2017 Jan 2017
GLE 3,998 3,950
with Series
30D 1 5
35D 1 1
43 487 537
63 12 9
63S 66 89
350 3,282 3,117
400 85 134
450 5 6
550 59 52



Time Periods X1 SERIES X3 SERIES X4 X5 SERIES X6 SERIES
Feb-2017 2,036 3,939 279 3,373 462
Jan-2017 2,328 3,941 209 3,586 423

Time Periods GLA GLC GLE GLS
Feb-2017 2,187 2,753 3,998 2,448
Jan-2017 1,985 3,035 3,950 2,300

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