mikepa

I’ve been reading all the past posts on HID / Bi-Xenon lights for the ML and am totally confused. There seems to be lots of people wanting these lights but no firm answers about doing it right.

Facts and questions:

1) Mercedes dealers can not (or will not) install the Bi-Xenons for you. I would have thought if you were willing to pay enough the dealer could order a set of replacement Bi-Xenons lights for you (say someone stole yours!)

2) Performance Products sells a set of Bi-Xenons for the ML for $1400. Are these plug and play? I saw something about an increase in the headlamp fuse was required. Perhaps the wiring is the same in the factory HID vehicles and the halogen ones, but I’d be worried about increasing the amperage of a fuse.

3) I see several kits on eBay that seem to claim they are for the ML – price seems to be around $400-$500. Has anyone tried these kits?

scorchie

Mercedes dealers will order the headlights for you as parts. The headlights will install into a car without HID from the factory, however there will be no self-levelling; on a pre-2002 car, the wiring is different, so will require an adapter; on a pre-2000 car, the fuse amperage will have to be increased, and don't worry as the wire is of the same gauge; on a 2002+ car, the HID setting will need to be enabled by the dealer in the vehicle's computer.

Performance Products primarily sells the lights for pre-2002 cars, and includes a wiring harness adapter.

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GregW / Oregon

I installed the bi-xenons on my '98. Make a huge difference in performance and looks. PP has them, but I got mine through Bekkers because PP was out of stock. No self-leveling.

Plug and play. 15-minute installation if you're at all handy with tools.

amb9800

Your ML looks pretty nice with those updates and the wheels, etc.

scorchie

I just checked eBäy, there are a few sets on there that I saw. Pretty good prices too compared to Performance Products and especially Bekkers.

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mikepa

The lower price (~$400) sets on eBay do not appear to be the complete headlight replacement unit that Performance is offering. However there is one guy selling a used set for ~$700 and another selling a new pair for $900 - but they are NOT Bi-xenons.

Question: Are the Bi-Xenons self leveling on the 2003 factory installs?

GregW / Oregon

Thanks--Hella FF20 chrome fog lights and rear tailgate panel go on today.

Regarding lights from E-Bay, as I warned in the other thread going here, make sure you are buying OEM HIDs and not retrofitted halogens. If a price seems too low, I would be wary.

scorchie

I saw two bixenon sets on eBäy... one may have ended already. The other link is below. I've seen several in the last few weeks, if you're patient they pop up.

Factory installed HIDs are ALWAYS self-levelling on Mercedes vehicles.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2428256468

Those ARE bixenons.

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andaya

Looking for them to but can't ell if I'm buying after markets or something.


Like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2428820066

UncAl

Ditto what Greg said. I got mine from PP.

scorchie

Those aren't bixenon. One can tell if they are bixenon or not by reading the description... if it says they are bixenon, then they probably are.

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andaya

DUh!! wouldn't you think anyone out there would just put Bixenon
on the description and trys to sell them? it does happen.

Let me repeat the question again, How can you tell if they're Bixenon or not? Just by looking at them. Let's say there is no description.

andaya