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Old 12-05-2016, 09:22 AM
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ML-320 Crank No Start

Went out after school to go home and my 2002 ML-320 cracked over but would not start. I have checked out the spark, fuel pressure, injectors, timing and compression. All good. Replaced the crankshaft position sensor, pulled the valve covers and checked the timing chain, all good. Any ideas?
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If the CEL is not illuminated, then it is a fuel issue, probably the pump.
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Originally Posted by Maj. Dundee
If the CEL is not illuminated, then it is a fuel issue, probably the pump.
i checked the fuel pressure at the connection on the engine and it was ~30 psi.
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Originally Posted by rancherprice
i checked the fuel pressure at the connection on the engine and it was ~30 psi.

And what is the pressure while cranking the engine?
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And what is the pressure while cranking the engine?
The engine won't crank because I think I have too much disconnected. But when I turn the key on the pressure comes up to 48 psi. After 30 min with the key off it came down to 32 psi. The starting pressure is high enough that it should atleat try to start isn't it?
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Are you getting a message in the odometer window saying, START ERROR?
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No START ERROR.
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I don't know what you have removed, as you said earlier, but with a fully charged battery, crank the eng. and at the same time look at the Tachometer and see if the needle bounces to approx. 200 RPMs.

If it doesn't then it is a faulty Crank. Position Sensor.
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CPS is OK. Tach comes up to 200 while cranking.
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Turn the key to pos. #2 and check for 12v on both contacts at fuse #19.
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Is the Check Eng. Light on?

Turn the key to pos. #2, and do all the Telltale Lights illuminate, especially the CEL?

Then wait about 5 secs., is the CEL on?
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All of the tell tale lights come on including the CEL. Only the air bag and SRS lights go of after 5 sec.
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Originally Posted by Maj. Dundee
Turn the key to pos. #2 and check for 12v on both contacts at fuse #19.
When I pull the fuse, I get 3.8 V on the front leg and 12.4 V on the rear leg.
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The fuse is blown. Replace it, but understand that fuses blow because of an existing problem.
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Originally Posted by Maj. Dundee
The fuse is blown. Replace it, but understand that fuses blow because of an existing problem.
the fuse is ok. Those readings were with the fuse pulled out. With the fuse in I get 12 V on both sides.
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Does the eng. still turn over?

Is everything back in place?

If so, turn the key to pos. #2 and while doing so watch the RED LED light. Does it quickly blink once?
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Originally Posted by Maj. Dundee
Does the eng. still turn over?

Is everything back in place?

If so, turn the key to pos. #2 and while doing so watch the RED LED light. Does it quickly blink once?
YES, it blinks one time.
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I should of thought of this earlier. Turn the key to pos. #2 & check fuse #26 for 12v.
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Originally Posted by Maj. Dundee
I should of thought of this earlier. Turn the key to pos. #2 & check fuse #26 for 12v.
Fuse is good. 12V both sides.
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Does the eng. still turn over? Hopefully you didn't run the battery down.
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Engine does still turn over. Do you have instructions for how to check the timing chain? I have the valve covers off and need to know what marks I am checking on the crank and cams.
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You are barking up the wrong tree with the timing chain. Are you absolutely positive you are getting enough fuel pressure?
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Originally Posted by Maj. Dundee
You are barking up the wrong tree with the timing chain. Are you absolutely positive you are getting enough fuel pressure?
I just put the fuel pressure tester on again and it came right up to 50 psi when I turned the key on. Bounced around right there while I cranked it.
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Remove both top covers to the fuse relay box, turn the key to pos. #2 and probe the cir. #15 stud for 12v.

Also do the same to the cir. 15 stud at the right side fuse panel.
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