EVOII_Racer

Hi amg fans,

Do you have another ride or is the ml amg your daily drive?

I can't imagine the ml63 being your daily drive so please explain why you chose the other ride, or why you have a monster amg as a daily drive Lol

betrezra

2011 ML63 Daily Driver, EC tuned, Ex Mods, Wheels, 2pcbrakes IP.
Weekend Toy - 2004 CLK55-Kleemann Supercharged
Wife's Daily - 2013 X5 Dinan Stage 2
Toy Hauler - 2013 F150 4x4 5.0 L F150 might get some goodies..... they are relatively in exp compared to modifying the star cars.

hpV12

Damn 680hp in an ML

Rippin'AV

Damn fellas...you guys have some serious toys

ML63 is my daily. Wife (and kids) drive the family wagon...a '14 Acura MDX. Great car actually but a little boring for my taste. The modified S4 is my weekend toy. Not as satisfying as the loud V8 rumble but those twin turbos at high boost are so addictive

...and a hell of a lot faster than the ML since it weighs about 1000# less.

EVOII_Racer

How much hp do you have on the S4 and what year? I remember driving my friends 480hp abt s4 from 2001 and that thing was insane!! You could smoke an rs4!

Édit: just saw your signature! Any pictures :-)

Rippin'AV

Yeah, those B6 S4's are great cars but they really come alive with the supercharger. Mine is a B5 model and fixed up for daily driving power. There are guys hitting 6-700whp but it doesn't make the power until 120mph+. I like power right away and honestly my days of going over 100mph are behind me. I have RS4 turbos with an aggressive ECU tune, brakes, suspension,upgraded fueling, and everything else you need for reliable/useful power. I've done a lot of adjustments since my last dyno but back then it put down 371 HP to all 4 wheels and 417 ft lb of torque at around 2500 rpm! Its fairly "quick". I know dynos are just numbers but to give perspective, the next guy up on the same dyno on the same day was a newer B7 RS4 and he only put down 325 wheel hp and about 300 wheel torque.

neodoc

I got rid of my 2010 CL63 in July of this year and got a 2013 Bentley Continental GT Speed for my daily driver. The following month, I simply had to have another AMG, so I got a 2014 ML 63. I now use them both (one at a time, of course) as my daily drivers. I favor the quiet smoothness of the ML, as it is very refined when driven sedately, but the Speed simply has so much more power that it is hands down the winner of the drag race. It could be a little quieter, though, which explains my preference for the ML as a daily driver. The Distronic Plus, brake hold and COMMAND systems in the AMG are also far superior and more user-friendly than those found in the Bentley. It's also easier to go to the supermarket, Home Depot, etc., in the ML, which blends in better with the crowd. Much to my surprise, I've had more than one person snap a picture of the Bentley while in traffic. Go figure...

EVOII_Racer

Very interesting

How do the Bentley and CL63 compare?

ChrisMclass

We have a 2014 GMC Acadia SLT, my daily driver because of my 5 kids lol. The ML63 is actually the wife's DD but most times she's shotgun with me, we work together and it's only 7-8 miles from the house.

Maverick1975

see my sig!

scyukon

My winter beater (lol) is supercharged 2004 Escalade. My wifes daily driver (and our trailer puller in the summer) is a supercharged 2007 Denali XL.

It is fun having 1500 hp in the garage....

ChrisMclass

Looks like a whole lot of smiles at your house my man!

ChrisMclass

When I turbocharged My 05 Escalade everyone thought I was crazy until the first time they rode with me and I could spank a C6 or CTS-V through the 1/4! Nothing cooler than a fast brick IMO

neodoc

There are definitely differences between the CL63 I owned and the Bentley Continental GT Speed I own now. Some are major, others minor. Both cars have powerful engines, but in the normally-aspirated CL63, the sensation of being shoved from behind during acceleration was simply not there. The car was quick, but it did feel quick. The Bentley shoves you forward as though you were being shot from a canon, likely as a result of its 616hp and around 590lb-ft of torque, but nothing is perfect. Being a turbo, there is a tiny bit of lag followed by a formidable rush of power that can sometimes feel over-dramatized for the situation. Impressive? Yes. Controllable? Yes... if you're paying attention. Excessive? Maybe.

In terms of ride-comfort and quality, both are extremely similar. The CL 63 had superb road manners, but its heft kept it from cornering with aplomb. With the traction control shut off, it would hang its tail out and be a hoot to drive, but it always reminded you of its weight. The Bentley corners with much more precision and not much drama, thanks in part to its all-wheel-drive set-up, but is a heavy car, so understeer can and does show up if one is too aggressive. The Bentley is heavy and feels solid, but one is especially aware of this great rolling mass when lifting off the throttle. When doing so, the car doesn't instantly slow down, but rather it feels like its rolling on some extremely low-friction ball-bearings. One doesn't feel as out-of-control as, say, in a skid, but it is a sensation that takes getting used to. Likewise, the seemingly effortless way in which the Bentley accelerates during normal driving is quite different from that in the CL63. The term used by Rolls-Royce is "wafting," and although the Bentley doesn't waft you anywhere, during sedate driving conditions, it does transmit that sensation to its driver that it is only using a few of its horses to move you along and if you need more, there is an endless supply. Its only shortcoming is engine noise.

Whereas in the CL63, the engine's drone was heard softly in the background unless one was really opening up the taps, the Bentley's engine is a bit more present in the cabin. In "Drive" it maintains a steady rumble, but in "Sport" the engine becomes noticeably louder and there is exhaust burble at idle, and some snorts when decelerating. Very impressive in a parking garage with onlookers, but a bit annoying on the highway, as it can get a bit boomy.

Finally, there is the subject of fit and finish. My old CL 63 had a black interior with black ash wood trim. I'm partial to black interiors for their elegance and ease of maintenance. The Bentley's interior is also black, with Mulliner quilted seat and door insets and piano black wood on the dash and console. What is striking is the general feel of luxury and thickness of all the materials, down to the thread used on the contrast stitching. My ML63 has the same black leather interior with white contrast stitching as I have in the Bentley, but it's quality, fit and finish are not as refined. The thread on the ML's stitching is thinner. There is exposed plastic on the seat frame, and the steering wheel airbag cover is not leather. This was also true in the CL63. In the Bentley, the entire steering wheel is made from one piece of leather and the airbag cover is indeed leather. The lenses in the vanity mirrors and exquisite and are dressed up by simple chrome trim rings; very nice touches that ooze luxury. AMG ought to do the same. Just look at the light under your visor. See what I mean?

This is my first Bentley, and, franky, I'm not sure if there will be a second. I had two CL63s back to back for a reason. It was probably the best car I have ever owned. My ML63 is definitely the best Mercedes SUV that I've owned, and I've had quite a few (see my sig). When the new S-CLass coupe is released, we'll see how the Speed fares.

MercedesDad

2010 ML63 and a 1986 190E-Cosworth for the weekend (both blacked out).

Wife' daily is a 2009 Subaru Forester Turbo Sti (extremely rare as I understand).

My daily is a 2010 F-150 XLT 4x4 (the best trucks on the planet IMHO)

hyperion667

I choose to drive my AMG on weekend only.....make sit more special (to me) to not drive supercar everyday.......I also have 07 997.1 TT, E550 and a ford f150

scyukon

Totally agree! What type of boost and what size turbo were you running? And what were you running in the 1/4 mile?

I have toyed with the idea of either going to a larger procharger or just going straight to turbo.

ChrisMclass

I consistently ran 13.0 at around 105mph, with a few 12.90's at 107-8. I was using an STS rear turbo kit on a 6.0 rwd Escalade running a Garrett GT67 with a 67 compressor and .81 housing intercooled and tuned at 7lbs.

Stock is 320hp to the crank, With my base tune, 4lbs and no intercooler I dyno'ed at 367hp and 435tq to the wheels (24" btw) with an intercooler, a better tune and 7lbs of boost and I hit 472hp with over 550tq

I think I have a video somewhere I can dig up. Gimme a day or two Ill see what I can do!

scyukon

Sounds good!

Thanks and Merry Christmas.

MercedesDad

Please DO post it! Following this one closely

You guys are such a bad influence got me dreaming about supercharging my W164 ML63. I wonder if anyone has done it yet.

ChrisMclass

Ok guys this one is not the highest quality video. Unfortunately the guy I beat had our friend filming and refused to give me a copy so this is my cell phone recording from our friends tv lol. But you can see a great launch on the 24" wheels. His Lightning had traction bars, a pulley, full exhaust and was tuned.


This video is when I just put the kit on, no intercooler, base tune and 4lbs of boost. I had made a few of these that day but this is the only one I can find


Enjoy!

MercedesDad

Sweet. Like the sound on the second one...when you get off the gas pedal and hear those release valves whistle on an Escalade. Do you still own it?

scyukon

Lol I know what you mean, I have been to the Weistech site many a time. My wife is like "isn't this car fast enough already?" whenever I mention it.

scyukon

Sweet! I thought about the sts system as well but just not practical for winter driving, which sadly I get a lot of. That poor lightning driver, getting roasted by a 3 ton vehicle.

AWDman

my wife has the pleasure of daily driving the ml63. my commute is a bit too long for the gas guzzling monster. i drive a fiat abarth. the ml63 is the uber capable tow truck for my race car. i have a ferrari 355 and original mini but both in storage as i concentrate on my racing.

got my ml63 for $40k with 44K miles close to 3 yrs ago. now at 79k. love this truck. the torque is addictive...just using up to 4000 rpm is adequate in 90% of driving. love the vented seats and the air suspension.

trouble- had rattling front strut replaced with a rebuilt arnott unit- didn't fix the problem but it went away on it's own. now the check engine lite is on -suspect intake manifold gasket. will get it looked at by my independent soon.

hope to have a bmw x5m at some point.