Big Brake Kit for ML Series
03-12-2014, 08:26 AM
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Big Brake Kit for ML Series
Hi, Does anyone know that all W164 ML share the same suspension or at least same spindle hub although different in brake rotor and caliper.
I am looking for the front and rear spindle in order to develop the BBK for ML63.
Our huge 6-piston calipers specially made for heavy SUV/Truck are now available and we are capable to build the brake kit up to 432mm rotor (17").
This is our development thread for such kits:
http://forums.racingbrake.com/showthread.php?t=1377
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We are pleased to offer Big Brake Kits (432mm huge rotors) for those SUV and Trucks with large wheels.
This kit will not just fill up the space behind your large wheels for a muscular look, but more importantly it can provide massive braking power to stop your heavy truck safely (including hauling).
This huge brake kit is made possible from our near three decades' brake experience in design and manufacturing.
The brake kit consists of:
This thread details how these calipers are made:
http://forums.racingbrake.com/showthread.php?t=1337
This kit shall be available to ship in June 2014.
Please contact us for ordering details, due to the variety of vehicle we currently only accept pre-orders with 4-6 weeks lead-time.
I am looking for the front and rear spindle in order to develop the BBK for ML63.
Our huge 6-piston calipers specially made for heavy SUV/Truck are now available and we are capable to build the brake kit up to 432mm rotor (17").
This is our development thread for such kits:
http://forums.racingbrake.com/showthread.php?t=1377
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We are pleased to offer Big Brake Kits (432mm huge rotors) for those SUV and Trucks with large wheels.
This kit will not just fill up the space behind your large wheels for a muscular look, but more importantly it can provide massive braking power to stop your heavy truck safely (including hauling).
This huge brake kit is made possible from our near three decades' brake experience in design and manufacturing.
The brake kit consists of:
- Light weight two piece rotor featuring our convergent cooling vane and center-mount design, truly light weight (only about 28 lbs) yet has a tremendous thermal capacity to deal with toughest braking conditions.
- Our rigid heavy duty 6-piston calipers - Made of 7075-T6 forged aluminum alloy. Designed and built to RacingBrake's highest quality standard in every details including seal, piston and hardware for lasting performance on street, track or off-road.
- Standard FMSI brake pad (D1382, same as for stock GTR. Lining has 65mm height and 18.5 mm thickness). Large and thick pad provides extra thermal capacity and longevity w/o frequent replacement. Various compounds for different driving environment are available from RB or other brand of your preference.
- Stainless brake line to enhance the overall braking performance
This thread details how these calipers are made:
http://forums.racingbrake.com/showthread.php?t=1337
This kit shall be available to ship in June 2014.
Please contact us for ordering details, due to the variety of vehicle we currently only accept pre-orders with 4-6 weeks lead-time.
Last edited by RacingBrake; 03-17-2014 at 11:12 AM.
03-12-2014, 11:15 AM
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Thank you for your quick and positive reply.
I am also curious to find out if any ML63 owners ever upgrade their brake other than RB's light weight two piece rotors, to BBK such as these offered from Brembo:
Brembo Front GTR BBK Big Brake 6Pot Caliper GT-R 405x34 Drill Disc ML63 AMG W164 US $8,923.20
Brembo Front GT BBK Big Brake 6Pot Caliper Yellow 405x34 Drill Disc ML63 06-11 US $4,699.2
It seems they only offer front, no rear?
I am also curious to find out if any ML63 owners ever upgrade their brake other than RB's light weight two piece rotors, to BBK such as these offered from Brembo:
Brembo Front GTR BBK Big Brake 6Pot Caliper GT-R 405x34 Drill Disc ML63 AMG W164 US $8,923.20
Brembo Front GT BBK Big Brake 6Pot Caliper Yellow 405x34 Drill Disc ML63 06-11 US $4,699.2
It seems they only offer front, no rear?
03-13-2014, 08:40 AM
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Jeeeez those are MASSIVE haha.
I am absolutely loving my 2 piece brake rotors front and rear! Combined with my wheels it has slashed my 60ft times in the quarter mile.
I am absolutely loving my 2 piece brake rotors front and rear! Combined with my wheels it has slashed my 60ft times in the quarter mile.
03-13-2014, 05:33 PM
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Thank you for your quick and positive reply.
I am also curious to find out if any ML63 owners ever upgrade their brake other than RB's light weight two piece rotors, to BBK such as these offered from Brembo:
Brembo Front GTR BBK Big Brake 6Pot Caliper GT-R 405x34 Drill Disc ML63 AMG W164 US $8,923.20
Brembo Front GT BBK Big Brake 6Pot Caliper Yellow 405x34 Drill Disc ML63 06-11 US $4,699.2
It seems they only offer front, no rear?
I am also curious to find out if any ML63 owners ever upgrade their brake other than RB's light weight two piece rotors, to BBK such as these offered from Brembo:
Brembo Front GTR BBK Big Brake 6Pot Caliper GT-R 405x34 Drill Disc ML63 AMG W164 US $8,923.20
Brembo Front GT BBK Big Brake 6Pot Caliper Yellow 405x34 Drill Disc ML63 06-11 US $4,699.2
It seems they only offer front, no rear?
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03-17-2014, 10:56 AM
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Honestly my 2-piece racing brake rotors in conjunction with forgestar wheels shaved off so much weight (90 lbs with tires) that my brakes are already overkill. They are already overwhelming my continental DWS tires (which a re way better than stock). With pilot super sports I bet they will stop like a race car.
The 2-piece direct replacement RacingBrake option is he best mod I did to my car for ride quality and stopping performance. Castrol SRF fluid and StopTech pads combo also helped significantly.
The 2-piece direct replacement RacingBrake option is he best mod I did to my car for ride quality and stopping performance. Castrol SRF fluid and StopTech pads combo also helped significantly.
03-17-2014, 11:04 AM
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This first post only to show our capability (images removed to avoid mis-understanding) than a package for ML63.
For ML63 we like to propose our light weight aluminum calipers for "Progressive Upgrade" brake kits which you can retain the RB light weight two piece rotors, so you only need to purchase and install aluminum calipers. I do agree that stock sizes (front 390x36, rear 360x26) are large enough to handle most of braking task.
Not sure about the weight on OE iron calipers but I bet you can save another 6-10 lbs per corners vs. a fixed piston caliper for a more efficient brake system.
For ML63 we like to propose our light weight aluminum calipers for "Progressive Upgrade" brake kits which you can retain the RB light weight two piece rotors, so you only need to purchase and install aluminum calipers. I do agree that stock sizes (front 390x36, rear 360x26) are large enough to handle most of braking task.
Not sure about the weight on OE iron calipers but I bet you can save another 6-10 lbs per corners vs. a fixed piston caliper for a more efficient brake system.
Last edited by RacingBrake; 03-17-2014 at 11:19 AM.
03-19-2014, 11:03 AM
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If you can bring down the price on the front and rear calipers for a package combo price I would consider it. At the current price though the benefits are minimal other than aesthetics. Yes the weight reduction is good for ride quality but it's not rotating mass like the rotors, so the benefits are not as much. Still interested for sure, but price needs to be in line with a direct replacement kit.
On a side note, I would not' waste time or money on development of a extremely large rotor kit when it sounds like you will have a drastically improved full brake kit for the stock sizes with updated calipers. The braking performance improvement is already so massive with just my rotors and wheels, honestly my brakes are already too much. At full threshold braking (not activating ABS) I cannot even use 60% of my brakes we StopTech pads because it's overwhelming my rubber too much. I can lock up the tires at 100+ if I am not progressive! Lol. And these DWS are miles better than stock tires. Even with Michelin Pilot Super Sports it would be more than enough stopping power.
With that said, ride quality improvements for another 6-10lbs per corner would be absolutely fantastic. It would feel like another 150+ lbs of body weight reduction and make the car that much more nimble.
On a side note, I would not' waste time or money on development of a extremely large rotor kit when it sounds like you will have a drastically improved full brake kit for the stock sizes with updated calipers. The braking performance improvement is already so massive with just my rotors and wheels, honestly my brakes are already too much. At full threshold braking (not activating ABS) I cannot even use 60% of my brakes we StopTech pads because it's overwhelming my rubber too much. I can lock up the tires at 100+ if I am not progressive! Lol. And these DWS are miles better than stock tires. Even with Michelin Pilot Super Sports it would be more than enough stopping power.
With that said, ride quality improvements for another 6-10lbs per corner would be absolutely fantastic. It would feel like another 150+ lbs of body weight reduction and make the car that much more nimble.
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03-19-2014, 07:02 PM
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2014 ML63
Do you have anything for the W166?
Does RB Performance offer a set up for the 2013 ML 63 (W166) ... rotors, pads,
etc? And also, is there anything for the 2013 SL 63 (R231)?
etc? And also, is there anything for the 2013 SL 63 (R231)?
03-20-2014, 07:45 AM
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If you can bring down the price on the front and rear calipers for a package combo price I would consider it. At the current price though the benefits are minimal other than aesthetics. Yes the weight reduction is good for ride quality but it's not rotating mass like the rotors, so the benefits are not as much. Still interested for sure, but price needs to be in line with a direct replacement kit.
On a side note, I would not' waste time or money on development of a extremely large rotor kit when it sounds like you will have a drastically improved full brake kit for the stock sizes with updated calipers. The braking performance improvement is already so massive with just my rotors and wheels, honestly my brakes are already too much. At full threshold braking (not activating ABS) I cannot even use 60% of my brakes we StopTech pads because it's overwhelming my rubber too much. I can lock up the tires at 100+ if I am not progressive! Lol. And these DWS are miles better than stock tires. Even with Michelin Pilot Super Sports it would be more than enough stopping power.
With that said, ride quality improvements for another 6-10lbs per corner would be absolutely fantastic. It would feel like another 150+ lbs of body weight reduction and make the car that much more nimble.
On a side note, I would not' waste time or money on development of a extremely large rotor kit when it sounds like you will have a drastically improved full brake kit for the stock sizes with updated calipers. The braking performance improvement is already so massive with just my rotors and wheels, honestly my brakes are already too much. At full threshold braking (not activating ABS) I cannot even use 60% of my brakes we StopTech pads because it's overwhelming my rubber too much. I can lock up the tires at 100+ if I am not progressive! Lol. And these DWS are miles better than stock tires. Even with Michelin Pilot Super Sports it would be more than enough stopping power.
With that said, ride quality improvements for another 6-10lbs per corner would be absolutely fantastic. It would feel like another 150+ lbs of body weight reduction and make the car that much more nimble.
It also allows quick brake pad inspection and installation (top load) w/o having to detach the caliper.
If you are happy with the benefit of weight reduction on two piece rotors, your will be amazed with the overall improvement of your braking performance with the addition of aluminum calipers.
It's more about the control than just the power!
You may be interested in reading our discussion in Nissan GT-R forum and learn why GT-R owners are looking for calipers replacement over stock Brembo caliper.
Stock Replacement Caliper for GT-R
How big is a brake kit?
03-20-2014, 10:33 AM
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does anyone sells just the calipers? i like our ml63 rotors, i just wish it came with better looking calipers. i prefer the 2011 red calipers over my 2009. i can't seem to find it anywhere online. and what the cost would be.
03-20-2014, 11:08 AM
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ML63 Front kit: $3,495 (w/two piece rotors) $1,800 (less rotors)
ML63 Rear Kit: $2,739 (w/two piece rotors) $1,500 (less rotors)
03-20-2014, 11:25 AM
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03-20-2014, 11:26 AM
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03-20-2014, 01:03 PM
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Brake kit calipers come only with RB logo.
These special prices quoted only good during introductory period until end of April, after that the price will be back to regular price (up about 30%)
These special prices quoted only good during introductory period until end of April, after that the price will be back to regular price (up about 30%)
Last edited by RacingBrake; 03-20-2014 at 01:14 PM.
