2013 US order info

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by YYZ-E55 As I understand it, the BlueTEC was not certified with the off-road package. Apparently it works with the petrol 350, though. My SA says the ON&OFF Road is not configurable with the Active Curve System, though the Daimler press release said, "New dynamic handling control system: cornering without rolling Active roll stabilisation in the form of the ACTIVE CURVE SYSTEM can be optionally combined with both the AIRMATIC air suspension with Adaptive Damping System (ADS) and the ON&OFFROAD package." Doesn't make sense as it is a perfect combination to allow more suspension travel off road. Any insight, YYZ?

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[krazyvshank]

Greg,
Please let us know if you have any updates on base pricing, order banks opening and build start dates.

Thanks!

[krazyvshank]

Based on your updates, I'll think if shd change mine to a 2013 order :-)

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by krazyvshank

Based on your updates, I'll think if shd change mine to a 2013 order :-)

A knowledgable dealer on another foum estimates the first customer cars won't be seen until mid/late September. Dealer vehicles will be produced first and stockpiled for release. Also, Lighting and Pano will continue to be in very short supply.

I'm now reconsidering whether to stick with my '12 order. The color MDF and Distronic would be nice, but I just don't know how much longer I can keep waiting.

[krazyvshank]

Thanks Greg. I think I'll stick to my 2012 order then. Gonna miss the color mfd for sure, but can't wait till mid Sep.
My current build dt is jun 1st with lighting. Hope its a little ahead of schedule like a few others have mentioned!

[YYZ-E55]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

My SA says the ON&OFF Road is not configurable with the Active Curve System, though the Daimler press release said,

"New dynamic handling control system: cornering without rolling

Active roll stabilisation in the form of the ACTIVE CURVE SYSTEM can be optionally combined with both the AIRMATIC air suspension with Adaptive Damping System (ADS) and the ON&OFFROAD package."

Doesn't make sense as it is a perfect combination to allow more suspension travel off road. Any insight, YYZ?

There's no restriction from Daimler with respect to combining ACS with the OFF-ROAD package. You should be able to build a 350 gas with those options as per the factory; MBUSA's internal policies may differ.

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by krazyvshank

Thanks Greg. I think I'll stick to my 2012 order then. Gonna miss the color mfd for sure, but can't wait till mid Sep.
My current build dt is jun 1st with lighting. Hope its a little ahead of schedule like a few others have mentioned!

BTW, just verified you can not get Brown Satin Ash with the Sport Interior on '12s. Changed my order.

[krazyvshank]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

BTW, just verified you can not get Brown Satin Ash with the Sport Interior on '12s. Changed my order.

When is your build date?

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by krazyvshank

When is your build date?

6/5.

[krazyvshank]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

The color MDF and Distronic would be nice, but I just don't know how much longer I can keep waiting.

what do you mean by distronic would be nice? It is already available in the 2012 MY.

[krazyvshank]

And Greg, do you have any update on the base price?

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by krazyvshank

what do you mean by distronic would be nice? It is already available in the 2012 MY.

It's only available as part of the $2,950 Driver Assistance Package; it will be standard feature for 2013.

[krazyvshank]

Wow... I didn't know that! That means the base price would definitely go up.

[xxGenericSNxx]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

It's only available as part of the $2,950 Driver Assistance Package; it will be standard feature for 2013.

No, collision prevention assist will be a standard feature. Distronic Plus will still be an option as part of the driver's assistance package, per those PDFs you uploaded.

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by xxGenericSNxx

No, collision prevention assist will be a standard feature. Distronic Plus will still be an option as part of the driver's assistance package, per those PDFs you uploaded.

I was told CPA was a relabel of Distronic. If not, then what is it?

[YYZ-E55]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

I was told CPA was a relabel of Distronic. If not, then what is it?

Basically, CPA includes the PRE-SAFE BRAKE and Active Brake Assist functionality that was formerly only available with DISTRONIC PLUS. You are not getting the DISTRONIC active cruise control functionality as part of CPA.

[xxGenericSNxx]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

I was told CPA was a relabel of Distronic. If not, then what is it?

Collision Prevention Assist puts the Distronic radar behind the grille (along with the Distronic grille) but all it does is brake your car in cases of emergency where you're about to rear end the car in front of you. You will not have the autonomous cruise functions with CPA which is still an option (and also at the same price according to your PDFs). I find the cost part sort of annoying because you're getting the sensor which is the most expensive piece of equipment, but you don't have the auto cruise function.

The first car that CPA is standard on is the new B Class in Europe. If you do a configurator on the UK MB website you'll see CPA as standard but Distronic Plus as a standalone option.

The forthcoming GL will be the first car in the USA to have CPA standard.

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by xxGenericSNxx

The forthcoming GL will be the first car in the USA to have CPA standard.

So, you're saying MY13 GL production starts before ML?

[MinnBobber]

Hi,
MotorTrend article states 2013 E class 350 gasser will be enhanced to 333 HP, see quote below:

" The 3.5-liter V-6 in the E350 will increase power from 302 to 333 hp, which should advance that car to the head of the pack...
Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/refreshed-...#ixzz1sJVWRJNJ "

Anybody hear anything on the 2013 ML??? If 350 gasser is going to be 333 HP on the E, wouldn't you think it would be on the ML.....

For those on the fence between 2012 and 2013, this might be an important factor!!!

I re-read Greg's 2013 build sheet but no mention of engine specs that I could find.
Come on ML sleuths----inquiring minds want to know

Bob in MN
P.S. Local dealer has a 2012 E Wagon (finally). Going out to test drive the wagon and ML -probably BlueTec??

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by MinnBobber

Hi,
MotorTrend article states 2013 E class 350 gasser will be enhanced to 333 HP, see quote below:

" The 3.5-liter V-6 in the E350 will increase power from 302 to 333 hp, which should advance that car to the head of the pack...
Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/refreshed-...#ixzz1sJVWRJNJ "

Anybody hear anything on the 2013 ML??? If 350 gasser is going to be 333 HP on the E, wouldn't you think it would be on the ML.....

For those on the fence between 2012 and 2013, this might be an important factor!!!

I re-read Greg's 2013 build sheet but no mention of engine specs that I could find.
Come on ML sleuths----inquiring minds want to know

Good question - that would be an enticement to wait. My guess is that the E gets it because of its higher price point and the ML already went from 268 to 302 for 2012.

[YYZ-E55]

Originally Posted by MinnBobber

Hi,
MotorTrend article states 2013 E class 350 gasser will be enhanced to 333 HP, see quote below:

" The 3.5-liter V-6 in the E350 will increase power from 302 to 333 hp, which should advance that car to the head of the pack...
Read more: http://wot.motortrend.com/refreshed-...#ixzz1sJVWRJNJ "

Anybody hear anything on the 2013 ML??? If 350 gasser is going to be 333 HP on the E, wouldn't you think it would be on the ML.....

For those on the fence between 2012 and 2013, this might be an important factor!!!

I re-read Greg's 2013 build sheet but no mention of engine specs that I could find.
Come on ML sleuths----inquiring minds want to know

Bob in MN
P.S. Local dealer has a 2012 E Wagon (finally). Going out to test drive the wagon and ML -probably BlueTec??

Motor Trend is incorrect. MY13 E-Class sedan stays the same (no facelift, no engines except the HYBRID). Facelift is MY14.

[MinnBobber]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Good question - that would be an enticement to wait. My guess is that the E gets it because of its higher price point and the ML already went from 268 to 302 for 2012.

I'll see if my dealer knows in about 2 hours.
But---I will bet he doesn't even know about the 2013 ML build sheet that you posted...... ????

[GregW / Oregon]

Originally Posted by YYZ-E55

Motor Trend is incorrect. MY13 E-Class sedan stays the same (no facelift, no engines except the HYBRID). Facelift is MY14.

It appears MT used the combined power for the 2013 E400 hybrid (306 + 27). Typical Motor Trend; it's one of the car mags I make a point not to bother with.

[xxGenericSNxx]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

So, you're saying MY13 GL production starts before ML?

Sorry I should clarify. I meant to say the GL is the first all new car from MB to have this feature standard. As to which MY13 comes out first I have no clue.

[gplank]

Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Just got this - haven't even read it yet:

Attached is the list of the Standard Equipment for the 2013 ML550, as printed out by my SA on April 15th. The printout I have of the general M-class options and packages didn't look like they change from Greg's posting of the 4-9-12 printout, but I included that in the second PDF so those shopping for the ML500 have the info all in one file.

BTW: The posting by jean7of9 earlier was of the Canadian standard equipment and options. This pdf is for the US version of the ML550.

UPDATE: I just redid the options and packages PDF, since it was missing the second page to the M-class specs. I'm also now breaking that out as a separate PDF, as well as posting the MY13 ML550 config I've ordered recently.