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Old 12-15-2014, 11:10 AM
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Just signed a deal to replace my ML with a 2015 LX570. It will be my 4th LX.

Enjoyed it and thanks for all the tips.

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Its been great having you here. Have fun with that big V8 and spend more on fuel.
Not to worry, I will!
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Originally Posted by GregGebhardt
Just signed a deal to replace my ML with a 2015 LX570. It will be my 4th LX.

Enjoyed it and thanks for all the tips.

You didn't keep it very long, perhaps even shorter than I when I get the Q7 in February - 11 months.

What happened?
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You didn't keep it very long, perhaps even shorter than I when I get the Q7 in February - 11 months.

What happened?
New Q7 looks more station wagon than SUV...

I am curious why you folks are leaving your ML's?
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You didn't keep it very long, perhaps even shorter than I when I get the Q7 in February - 11 months.

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A meeting with my CPA convinced me.

I loved the ML, like driving a sports car compared to the LX570. I am just more comfortable in the larger vehicle. It is one of the few body on frame units out there. The frequest trips to Atlanta are nothing in the LX.

I know it is a boat!

But a VERY comfortable boat!
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New Q7 looks more station wagon than SUV...

I am curious why you folks are leaving your ML's?
That's why I'm getting a 2015. It's still the current build.

I've mentioned many times here why I'm not happy with the ML - enough so that I was told to shut up about it.

My loaded 2014 ML350BTC will be available to purchase in mid to late January.
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That's why I'm getting a 2015. It's still the current build.

I've mentioned many times here why I'm not happy with the ML - enough so that I was told to shut up about it.

My loaded 2014 ML350BTC will be available to purchase in mid to late January.
I have seen some of that. I think everyone can like what they like. I am not a Audi fan but know many people who love them.

I am on my second ML and have to say I am very happy. So each experience is different I suppose.
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Originally Posted by GregGebhardt
A meeting with my CPA convinced me.

I loved the ML, like driving a sports car compared to the LX570. I am just more comfortable in the larger vehicle. It is one of the few body on frame units out there. The frequest trips to Atlanta are nothing in the LX.

I know it is a boat!

But a VERY comfortable boat!
I love the LX570/Land Cruiser. Nothing like a bullet proof power train!
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I love the LX570/Land Cruiser. Nothing like a bullet proof power train!
Yep. The 4WD capabilities amazed me. I put the 2012 LX in "crawl mode" and it climbed a hill the others had trouble with without spinning the tires once.

It is great we all have such great choices.
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Thanks for your contributions here. I hope the LX treats you well, it certainly is a luxury drive.
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Thanks for your contributions here. I hope the LX treats you well, it certainly is a luxury drive.
Thanks very much.
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Originally Posted by GregGebhardt
Just signed a deal to replace my ML with a 2015 LX570. It will be my 4th LX.

Enjoyed it and thanks for all the tips.

Congrats on the Lexus, the LX is a beauty..
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Thanks everyone. Just got the call and she is out of detail and sitting under the portico ready for me to pickup!

All of you have been great!
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You idiot! this is the dumbest thing I've ever f-ing heard of! You turning your back on MB is a slap in the face to me, and will not be forgotten.

just kidding of course, best of luck to ya, nice to have to make such choices.

come back and post a pic or two.
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You idiot! this is the dumbest thing I've ever f-ing heard of! You turning your back on MB is a slap in the face to me, and will not be forgotten.
I guess you're going to be twice slapped when I turn my back on MB after 42 years in late January or February.
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I guess you're going to be twice slapped when I turn my back on MB after 42 years in late January or February.
Ha, my wife is going to slap me mid-year if she carries out her threat to get an S8.
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I love the LX, I actually just put a deposit on a 2015 ML350 as my Lexus RX350 is going back from lease by the end of the month. I personally think the Lexus brand is a bit boring, lets hope the ML will be a bit better.
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I love the LX, I actually just put a deposit on a 2015 ML350 as my Lexus RX350 is going back from lease by the end of the month. I personally think the Lexus brand is a bit boring, lets hope the ML will be a bit better.
While agree that Lexus may not be as exciting as Mercedes, out of the 4 LX units and numerous Lexus cars, I have never had the first problem with any of them. Only time I have had to take them in for anything was just for their regular service.
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While agree that Lexus may not be as exciting as Mercedes, out of the 4 LX units and numerous Lexus cars, I have never had the first problem with any of them. Only time I have had to take them in for anything was just for their regular service.
I can agree with this 100%, I never had to take any of my last 2 Luxus' in for any warranty work.
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Why do people imply that the ML will be less reliable than a Lexus RX350? I see problems pop up here now and then but compared to the thousands of MLs out there the percentage is very small. I realize that forums such as this represent only a fraction of owners but if there is a dissatisfied owner, you can bet they will find a forum to air their complaint or ask for advice - that is what forums are for after all.

My experience over the 2 1/2 years I have owned my ML has been great. In fact, I would say that overall, this car has been the best I've owned in fifty years of driving. In that time I have driven most everything, both foreign and domestic, and actually owned many of them. All cars have problems and yes, some are more reliable than others and even the "bible" for reliability (Consumer Reports) says so. Both Lexus and MB are considered "luxury" brands and the reputation of both is quite good, albeit for different reasons.

If in fact, MB is less reliable, the question that has to be asked is why? Are Lexus cars better built? Do they use better materials? Are their engineers better than those at Mercedes? Are their cars put under better quality control standards? Etc., etc. I have not visited the Lexus forum (I assume they have several), but I bet if I did I would find some complaints too. I guess what I'm saying is that although there may be problems here and there, I do not believe MB cars can be considered unreliable.
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I also own a new 2014 Lexus RX350...they are both very different but on par with each other I'd say as far as engineering, fit finish..of course the ML is much more of a vehicle and 50% more $$..where Lexus seems to one-up MB is with service,sales experience and the dealership infrastructures..the Lexus dealership is state of the art as far as shop..and customer pampering...golf simulator, get your nails done shop..and general mentality of the staff..if asked they would come to my home to get the vehicle for it's service..you can leave your car at the dealership..they will shuttle you to airport and put the vehicle through their spa...things like this simply aren't offered at the MB dealership who in my mind seem to have an "air" about them..that said I'd still own my ML63 as only maybe Audi would have something I might look at..or maybe an X5 M

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You idiot! this is the dumbest thing I've ever f-ing heard of! You turning your back on MB is a slap in the face to me, and will not be forgotten.

just kidding of course, best of luck to ya, nice to have to make such choices.

come back and post a pic or two.







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Why do people imply that the ML will be less reliable than a Lexus RX350? I see problems pop up here now and then but compared to the thousands of MLs out there the percentage is very small. I realize that forums such as this represent only a fraction of owners but if there is a dissatisfied owner, you can bet they will find a forum to air their complaint or ask for advice - that is what forums are for after all.

My experience over the 2 1/2 years I have owned my ML has been great. In fact, I would say that overall, this car has been the best I've owned in fifty years of driving. In that time I have driven most everything, both foreign and domestic, and actually owned many of them. All cars have problems and yes, some are more reliable than others and even the "bible" for reliability (Consumer Reports) says so. Both Lexus and MB are considered "luxury" brands and the reputation of both is quite good, albeit for different reasons.

If in fact, MB is less reliable, the question that has to be asked is why? Are Lexus cars better built? Do they use better materials? Are their engineers better than those at Mercedes? Are their cars put under better quality control standards? Etc., etc. I have not visited the Lexus forum (I assume they have several), but I bet if I did I would find some complaints too. I guess what I'm saying is that although there may be problems here and there, I do not believe MB cars can be considered unreliable.
My post comes from only MY experience.

Also from MY own experience dealing with the Lexus people is so much nicer that dealing with the MB people. They have with out fail always had a Lexus loaner when it was service time and not like the MB service people who stuck me in a Nissan Sentra for a day with a back seat of someone else's barf! The difference in attitudes between the Lexus people and MB people is night and day!

The are both great brands!

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