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Is there any child safety lock mechanism, that prevents a child from opening the door from the inside? Besides the display that indicates a door is open, the S class does not have any way of preventing this from happening while the car is in motion.
I understand that in the event of an accident, the carmaker wants the passengers to be able to exit the car, and would not be able to if a lock was engaged (i.e Toyotas, Lexus' have this ).
I would think Mercedes would be able to go a step furthur and have a system that automatically disengages a child safety lock in any sort of collision.
My 2.5 yr old opened the rear door during a stopover, on a rural 2 lane rd. As my wife got back onto the road, the door swung open. Luckily my child was strapped to her carseat, but who knows one day she may quietly learn how to unbuckle that, without us knowing.
I had never bothered checking or even looking for one in any of my cars, until today.
Apparently, the Lexus LS430, and the BMW 7 series have this, because my brother in law owns both and checked to let me know.
I understand that in the event of an accident, the carmaker wants the passengers to be able to exit the car, and would not be able to if a lock was engaged (i.e Toyotas, Lexus' have this ).
I would think Mercedes would be able to go a step furthur and have a system that automatically disengages a child safety lock in any sort of collision.
My 2.5 yr old opened the rear door during a stopover, on a rural 2 lane rd. As my wife got back onto the road, the door swung open. Luckily my child was strapped to her carseat, but who knows one day she may quietly learn how to unbuckle that, without us knowing.
I had never bothered checking or even looking for one in any of my cars, until today.
Apparently, the Lexus LS430, and the BMW 7 series have this, because my brother in law owns both and checked to let me know.
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I guess you could always get MB to pull out the controls and disable the lock switch from the rear seats (it should just be a plug). The doors would then only be able to be unlocked/locked from the front and they should still unlock during a collision. I know its kind of a pain, but might be worth it since you had a close call already.
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Originally Posted by abh11570
Is there any child safety lock mechanism, that prevents a child from opening the door from the inside? Besides the display that indicates a door is open, the S class does not have any way of preventing this from happening while the car is in motion.
I understand that in the event of an accident, the carmaker wants the passengers to be able to exit the car, and would not be able to if a lock was engaged (i.e Toyotas, Lexus' have this ).
I would think Mercedes would be able to go a step furthur and have a system that automatically disengages a child safety lock in any sort of collision.
My 2.5 yr old opened the rear door during a stopover, on a rural 2 lane rd. As my wife got back onto the road, the door swung open. Luckily my child was strapped to her carseat, but who knows one day she may quietly learn how to unbuckle that, without us knowing.
I had never bothered checking or even looking for one in any of my cars, until today.
Apparently, the Lexus LS430, and the BMW 7 series have this, because my brother in law owns both and checked to let me know.
I understand that in the event of an accident, the carmaker wants the passengers to be able to exit the car, and would not be able to if a lock was engaged (i.e Toyotas, Lexus' have this ).
I would think Mercedes would be able to go a step furthur and have a system that automatically disengages a child safety lock in any sort of collision.
My 2.5 yr old opened the rear door during a stopover, on a rural 2 lane rd. As my wife got back onto the road, the door swung open. Luckily my child was strapped to her carseat, but who knows one day she may quietly learn how to unbuckle that, without us knowing.
I had never bothered checking or even looking for one in any of my cars, until today.
Apparently, the Lexus LS430, and the BMW 7 series have this, because my brother in law owns both and checked to let me know.
However, there is no way that I can see where someone in the backseat (or front seats) cannot open any locked door from the inside while the car is in motion. If the car is in Global lock/unlock all door can be opened from the inside. If you are in Special lock/unlock only the door opened from the inside will unlock. But that does not eliminate a youngster from opening the door from the inside if not in his seatbelt.
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Originally Posted by JAdmiral
Doesn't the car have child locks? They're usually located on the edge of the door. I'll be shocked if they don't!
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Originally Posted by JAdmiral
Doesn't the car have child locks? They're usually located on the edge of the door. I'll be shocked if they don't!
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Originally Posted by JAdmiral
Doesn't the car have child locks? They're usually located on the edge of the door. I'll be shocked if they don't!
I really worry for this, because a few months ago, one of my employee's nephew died in this manner. He opened the door on the freeway and fell out and died. I didnt even think of it, until it happened to me yesterday.
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Originally Posted by abh11570
You wont find any. I checked the manual, somehow,it has no mention of the ability of children being able to open the door while the car is in motion. I really worry for this, because a few months ago, one of my employee's nephew died in this manner. He opened the door on the freeway and fell out and died. I didnt even think of it, until it happened to me yesterday.
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
I do not have an S, yet. However, I’m assuming there should be a sliding latch when you open each rear door (midpoint rear metal frame) which activates/deactivates the child-proof locks.
There is a small square hole in the rear doors just below the latch but it just appears to be a hole. There doesn't appear to be anything to adjust or turn. It looks like it may be used for an option I do not have on the car????
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Originally Posted by Nevada Jack
There is nothing on the frame of the read door except the latch.
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Originally Posted by Nevada Jack
There is nothing on the frame of the read door except the latch.
There is a small square hole in the rear doors just below the latch but it just appears to be a hole. There doesn't appear to be anything to adjust or turn. It looks like it may be used for an option I do not have on the car????
There is a small square hole in the rear doors just below the latch but it just appears to be a hole. There doesn't appear to be anything to adjust or turn. It looks like it may be used for an option I do not have on the car????
I observed the same. I even prodded the small square hole to see if there is some sort of button. Have no idea what its for.
Definately a worry for me now. I'll just put the child seat in the middle of the rear, I guess.
Wonder what is Mercedes' reason not to have one.
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Originally Posted by konigstiger
Cannot believe MBUSA eliminated child-proof locking. I’ll have to do some checking by knocking on a back door or two.
I also owned a CLS 500, but traded it in. I never bothered to check if it had a child lock. Does your CLS have one?
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I am surprised my 01 S500 rear doors remain locked until I open my driver door or unlock the doors by pressing the unlock switch located on the dash.
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I don't believe any US-spec MBs have them at all. Our '02 ML320 doesn't have them.
But don't the doors only unlock if you open only the front doors? The rear door shouldn't unlock when you pull the handle unless it already is unlocked....
But don't the doors only unlock if you open only the front doors? The rear door shouldn't unlock when you pull the handle unless it already is unlocked....
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Originally Posted by AsianML
But don't the doors only unlock if you open only the front doors? The rear door shouldn't unlock when you pull the handle unless it already is unlocked....
"However, there is no way that I can see where someone in the backseat (or front seats) cannot open any locked door from the inside while the car is in motion. If the car is in Global lock/unlock all door can be opened from the inside. If you are in Special lock/unlock only the door opened from the inside will unlock."
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A recent Consumer Reports article on the CLS500 (even though the CLS550s are on the floor ) specifically notes there are no rear childproof door locks as found on most cars. Therefore, one can safely assume this is the case with all MBUSA vehicles!
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There was a good section dedicated to this feature.
Page 51 / 52 of the safety section covers it . good luck let us know how it works out.
Page 51 / 52 of the safety section covers it . good luck let us know how it works out.
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Strange...that looks like a switch of some kind. I (and others in the US model) have the hole there but there is nothing to move or turn...just a hole with some metal inside???
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Thanks for the detail image. It apparently is not in the US models...the entry is there to install it but it is not installed. I don't know the reason for that...but some lawyer probably told some bean counter that someone may sue if the door can't be opened...LOL Thanks again for the information.
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Thanks for the detail image. It apparently is not in the US models...the entry is there to install it but it is not installed. I don't know the reason for that...but some lawyer probably told some bean counter that someone may sue if the door can't be opened...LOL Thanks again for the information.
By the way, nice car Jack, you can almost touch it from your pictures. I hope tomorrow I will finaly get to post some pic with my car in that interesting color
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Thanks for the detail image. It apparently is not in the US models...the entry is there to install it but it is not installed. I don't know the reason for that...but some lawyer probably told some bean counter that someone may sue if the door can't be opened...LOL Thanks again for the information.
I guess since I'm not in the sue-lottery business, I just educated my 3 year old never to even try to open the door. She has to ask when the car has stopped. She now unbuckles her self from the carseat, but stays put. Its unfortunate that a car with such techno doesnt have the ability to disengage a child proof setting in the event of a collision.
As I had earlier mentioned in the beginning of my post, an employee of mine had a nephew fall out of a car on the interstate. The child died. It was determined that he had opened the car door.
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but this became a huge problem for me a month ago when my son decided unlocking the door was a fun thing to do. And at 2 months shy of his 3 year birthday he wasn't understanding why he shouldn't do it. I then tried to open the rear door while driving on the highway... I reached for the rear door lock, pulled up the pin, and pulled the door handle. The door opened just fine at 40 mph. I was on an exit ramp so wasn't *that* dangerous.
Went on ebay and looked for door pins. Found a smooth silver model for $39.95 a set. Installed them and problem solved. I will admit the rears don't look quite as nice as the ones in the front door. But they are harder to grasp.
Rear door pin down
Front door open
Went on ebay and looked for door pins. Found a smooth silver model for $39.95 a set. Installed them and problem solved. I will admit the rears don't look quite as nice as the ones in the front door. But they are harder to grasp.
Rear door pin down
Front door open