Wind noise - front doors
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Wind noise - front doors
Anyone experience "fluttering" wind noise at both front doors? The noise seems to be from the area at the top, back of the door - just about the spot closest to your ear. Noise is really irritating above 100 kph, and really detracts from the otherwise quiet cabin.
Dealer says the noise is "acceptable" and "within spec". But this just doesn't gel with most road test reports which praise the W222 for whisper quiet cabin and lack of wind noise.
My car is a 2015 S600.
Dealer says the noise is "acceptable" and "within spec". But this just doesn't gel with most road test reports which praise the W222 for whisper quiet cabin and lack of wind noise.
My car is a 2015 S600.
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Yes, we have experienced a slight fluttering or pulsing sound in our 2014 on the passenger side. The 2014 had a service bulletin for this that I learned about here on the forum. Dealer performed the work in the service bulletin for realigning the doors to better seal. The pulsing is better but will still every now and then have a slight pulsing.
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Reference bulletin LI72.00-P-058634 https://mbworld.org/forums/new-s-cla...ml#post5969236
DaveVY contact MB to request dealer revisit and monitor repair to your satisfaction.
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Thank you for the responses.
Vehicle is back at the dealership for attention. Based on feedback from dealership, various attempts to realign doors and adjust seals has helped a little but buffeting noise is still there.
It's definitely not wind intrusion into the cabin. Source seems to be buffeting around the small gap (about 5 mm) between the front and back door (pillars). When the gap is taped over, noise goes away!
Will post further update after testing vehicle.
Vehicle is back at the dealership for attention. Based on feedback from dealership, various attempts to realign doors and adjust seals has helped a little but buffeting noise is still there.
It's definitely not wind intrusion into the cabin. Source seems to be buffeting around the small gap (about 5 mm) between the front and back door (pillars). When the gap is taped over, noise goes away!
Will post further update after testing vehicle.
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Update on the wind noise issue. Dealer spent many hours realigning doors and adjusting door seals but problem persists! Just completed a 1200 km trip. When the weather conditions are perfect the cabin is as silent as you'd expect in an S Class. But even with the slightest of winds (breeze!), the fluttering becomes intrusive. In moderate to heavy winds, the fluttering is downright annoying / disconcerting.
The problem with my S600 appears to be very similar to what many C Class owners have been complaining about on this forum.
Waiting for the dealer to decide what to do next.
The problem with my S600 appears to be very similar to what many C Class owners have been complaining about on this forum.
Waiting for the dealer to decide what to do next.
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Update on the wind noise issue. Dealer spent many hours realigning doors and adjusting door seals but problem persists! Just completed a 1200 km trip. When the weather conditions are perfect the cabin is as silent as you'd expect in an S Class. But even with the slightest of winds (breeze!), the fluttering becomes intrusive. In moderate to heavy winds, the fluttering is downright annoying / disconcerting.
The problem with my S600 appears to be very similar to what many C Class owners have been complaining about on this forum.
Waiting for the dealer to decide what to do next.
The problem with my S600 appears to be very similar to what many C Class owners have been complaining about on this forum.
Waiting for the dealer to decide what to do next.
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Latest. Not good news.
I have received a letter from Mercedes Benz South Africa's Customer Relationship Manager advising as follows:
"The wind noise only occurs when the wind blows over the vehicles body shell is a specific direction. This is not wind noise but more wind turbulence that one hears from the driver's door. Therefore we would like to conclude by advising that our Technical department is confident your vehicle is conforming to manufacturer's specification and the noise audible is considered as a characteristic of the vehicle"
So there you have it... Mercedes Benz designed the W222 S Class to have intrusive "wind turbulence"!!! I'm really not exaggerating with the word intrusive - the last time I had such ridiculous wind noise was in my 1992 Ford Laser 1300.
Contrast this justification to the marketing blurb for the W222 dealing specifically with wind noise....
"The aeroacoustic specialists took specific measures to counter wind noises during their aerodynamic development work. To reduce high-frequency wind noise, the sealing systems around the windows and door handles were above all improved considerably. The newly designed exterior mirror and the correspondingly shaped A-pillar with a minimised shoulder height ensure the efficient drainage of water and spray hitting the windscreen, prevent the airflow from breaking off at this point and therefore avoid noises that might enter the interior via the windscreen and side windows. The roof structure and the automatic tilting/sliding roof module were subjected to further aeroacoustic development to improve noise comfort in this area as well. The combined effect of these measures allows the new S-Class to achieve the desired aim of being the quietest vehicle in its segment."
I have received a letter from Mercedes Benz South Africa's Customer Relationship Manager advising as follows:
"The wind noise only occurs when the wind blows over the vehicles body shell is a specific direction. This is not wind noise but more wind turbulence that one hears from the driver's door. Therefore we would like to conclude by advising that our Technical department is confident your vehicle is conforming to manufacturer's specification and the noise audible is considered as a characteristic of the vehicle"
So there you have it... Mercedes Benz designed the W222 S Class to have intrusive "wind turbulence"!!! I'm really not exaggerating with the word intrusive - the last time I had such ridiculous wind noise was in my 1992 Ford Laser 1300.
Contrast this justification to the marketing blurb for the W222 dealing specifically with wind noise....
"The aeroacoustic specialists took specific measures to counter wind noises during their aerodynamic development work. To reduce high-frequency wind noise, the sealing systems around the windows and door handles were above all improved considerably. The newly designed exterior mirror and the correspondingly shaped A-pillar with a minimised shoulder height ensure the efficient drainage of water and spray hitting the windscreen, prevent the airflow from breaking off at this point and therefore avoid noises that might enter the interior via the windscreen and side windows. The roof structure and the automatic tilting/sliding roof module were subjected to further aeroacoustic development to improve noise comfort in this area as well. The combined effect of these measures allows the new S-Class to achieve the desired aim of being the quietest vehicle in its segment."
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Latest. Not good news.
I have received a letter from Mercedes Benz South Africa's Customer Relationship Manager advising as follows:
"The wind noise only occurs when the wind blows over the vehicles body shell is a specific direction. This is not wind noise but more wind turbulence that one hears from the driver's door. Therefore we would like to conclude by advising that our Technical department is confident your vehicle is conforming to manufacturer's specification and the noise audible is considered as a characteristic of the vehicle"
So there you have it... Mercedes Benz designed the W222 S Class to have intrusive "wind turbulence"!!! I'm really not exaggerating with the word intrusive - the last time I had such ridiculous wind noise was in my 1992 Ford Laser 1300.
Contrast this justification to the marketing blurb for the W222 dealing specifically with wind noise....
"The aeroacoustic specialists took specific measures to counter wind noises during their aerodynamic development work. To reduce high-frequency wind noise, the sealing systems around the windows and door handles were above all improved considerably. The newly designed exterior mirror and the correspondingly shaped A-pillar with a minimised shoulder height ensure the efficient drainage of water and spray hitting the windscreen, prevent the airflow from breaking off at this point and therefore avoid noises that might enter the interior via the windscreen and side windows. The roof structure and the automatic tilting/sliding roof module were subjected to further aeroacoustic development to improve noise comfort in this area as well. The combined effect of these measures allows the new S-Class to achieve the desired aim of being the quietest vehicle in its segment."
I have received a letter from Mercedes Benz South Africa's Customer Relationship Manager advising as follows:
"The wind noise only occurs when the wind blows over the vehicles body shell is a specific direction. This is not wind noise but more wind turbulence that one hears from the driver's door. Therefore we would like to conclude by advising that our Technical department is confident your vehicle is conforming to manufacturer's specification and the noise audible is considered as a characteristic of the vehicle"
So there you have it... Mercedes Benz designed the W222 S Class to have intrusive "wind turbulence"!!! I'm really not exaggerating with the word intrusive - the last time I had such ridiculous wind noise was in my 1992 Ford Laser 1300.
Contrast this justification to the marketing blurb for the W222 dealing specifically with wind noise....
"The aeroacoustic specialists took specific measures to counter wind noises during their aerodynamic development work. To reduce high-frequency wind noise, the sealing systems around the windows and door handles were above all improved considerably. The newly designed exterior mirror and the correspondingly shaped A-pillar with a minimised shoulder height ensure the efficient drainage of water and spray hitting the windscreen, prevent the airflow from breaking off at this point and therefore avoid noises that might enter the interior via the windscreen and side windows. The roof structure and the automatic tilting/sliding roof module were subjected to further aeroacoustic development to improve noise comfort in this area as well. The combined effect of these measures allows the new S-Class to achieve the desired aim of being the quietest vehicle in its segment."
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Latest. Not good news.
I have received a letter from Mercedes Benz South Africa's Customer Relationship Manager advising as follows:
"The wind noise only occurs when the wind blows over the vehicles body shell is a specific direction. This is not wind noise but more wind turbulence that one hears from the driver's door. Therefore we would like to conclude by advising that our Technical department is confident your vehicle is conforming to manufacturer's specification and the noise audible is considered as a characteristic of the vehicle"
So there you have it... Mercedes Benz designed the W222 S Class to have intrusive "wind turbulence"!!! I'm really not exaggerating with the word intrusive - the last time I had such ridiculous wind noise was in my 1992 Ford Laser 1300.
Contrast this justification to the marketing blurb for the W222 dealing specifically with wind noise....
"The aeroacoustic specialists took specific measures to counter wind noises during their aerodynamic development work. To reduce high-frequency wind noise, the sealing systems around the windows and door handles were above all improved considerably. The newly designed exterior mirror and the correspondingly shaped A-pillar with a minimised shoulder height ensure the efficient drainage of water and spray hitting the windscreen, prevent the airflow from breaking off at this point and therefore avoid noises that might enter the interior via the windscreen and side windows. The roof structure and the automatic tilting/sliding roof module were subjected to further aeroacoustic development to improve noise comfort in this area as well. The combined effect of these measures allows the new S-Class to achieve the desired aim of being the quietest vehicle in its segment."
I have received a letter from Mercedes Benz South Africa's Customer Relationship Manager advising as follows:
"The wind noise only occurs when the wind blows over the vehicles body shell is a specific direction. This is not wind noise but more wind turbulence that one hears from the driver's door. Therefore we would like to conclude by advising that our Technical department is confident your vehicle is conforming to manufacturer's specification and the noise audible is considered as a characteristic of the vehicle"
So there you have it... Mercedes Benz designed the W222 S Class to have intrusive "wind turbulence"!!! I'm really not exaggerating with the word intrusive - the last time I had such ridiculous wind noise was in my 1992 Ford Laser 1300.
Contrast this justification to the marketing blurb for the W222 dealing specifically with wind noise....
"The aeroacoustic specialists took specific measures to counter wind noises during their aerodynamic development work. To reduce high-frequency wind noise, the sealing systems around the windows and door handles were above all improved considerably. The newly designed exterior mirror and the correspondingly shaped A-pillar with a minimised shoulder height ensure the efficient drainage of water and spray hitting the windscreen, prevent the airflow from breaking off at this point and therefore avoid noises that might enter the interior via the windscreen and side windows. The roof structure and the automatic tilting/sliding roof module were subjected to further aeroacoustic development to improve noise comfort in this area as well. The combined effect of these measures allows the new S-Class to achieve the desired aim of being the quietest vehicle in its segment."
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