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Old 10-22-2009, 04:14 AM   #1
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Death Threats to Obama at unprecedented levels, Secret Service struggling

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts950

Doesn't surprise me, as I know a stereotypical way that quite a lot of the people on his opposing side can be. Bush was the most hated President of all time perhaps, however Obama's death threats are 400% above what he saw.... And, this is in less than a year.

This isn't a Thread about whether he's great or bad, or whether I want to hump his leg or not, however that's INSANE.

Great part is, all these idiots thinking they're being "patriotic" by threatening the President who they don't agree with, are in turn about to cause the Gov. to have to spend LOTS more money protecting him from them. Already duties are being minimized by many of his "Staff" in order to further protect him.

If some jackass even gets close to harming Obama, you as well as I know, this Country will be in the biggest divided "war" within itself that it has been in in modern times: All types, race, political parties, etc. The race issue will for one, be at dangerous levels.
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why am i not surprised.

a president that apologizes constantly
for our supposed misdeeds and wants to "change"
and "remake" America because it is such an awful
country and needs to be reformed.

............i would think that
would make a good part of the population upset.
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The US population is all worked up over a Socialist administration bankrupting the country? Paint me as shocked.
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Upset is one thing, I can understand rage in hating someone that you're forced to deal with, and of course I can understand where the human rage emotion leads to....

....However that doesn't change how dangerous and out of control some people are getting. Again, I never thought I'd see anything worse than the peoples actions against Bush, but in Obama's FIRST year, actually far less than his first year, it's even more volatile than anything we witnessed with Bush. Ironically so many of the same people foaming at the mouth toward Obama, putting all "respect" aside, are the same people who complained about it when the other side did it toward Bush.

My point is this, hate him all you want, but I hope anyone who's promoting the actions that would make the more unintelligent actually rationally think of acting out violently, understands that if anything ever happened to the guy, this Country would very possibly be at a war within itself which will surpass anything we've probably seen before.

On a less dramatic note, hopefully they can realize that all this is doing is taking more of our money, and putting his and his Staffs attention away from the real problems, as they're in a constant state of putting forth all the effort they can in simply keeping him protected and safe.

There have to be better ways to try and get points across, and make strides in the oppositions cause, than resorting to these antics.
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On a less dramatic note, hopefully they can realize that all this is doing is taking more of our money, and putting his and his Staffs attention away from the real problems, as they're in a constant state of putting forth all the effort they can in simply keeping him protected and safe.
Horse****

1) He and His Staff are the ones creating the real problems. They are too single minded about destroying the economy to give a damn about anyone else.

2) The Lives of Talking Puppets are meaningless and easily replaceable to the left

3) Al and Jesse are the ones making 98% of the threats.

4) If the administration is too distracted to do anything else, great, that's better for us.
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My point is this, hate him all you want, but I hope anyone who's promoting the actions that would make the more unintelligent actually rationally think of acting out violently, understands that if anything ever happened to the guy, this Country would very possibly be at a war within itself which will surpass anything we've probably seen before.
Wasn't this Charlie Manson's dream ?
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I think this is to be expected when a politician tries to bring change (perceived or real). People don't like change because they fear and resist uncertainty... especially when the upsides are not so evident and the downsides are plain scary. This is one manifestation of that fear. I think that the world is changing regardless of Obama (I don't give him that much credit), but since he characterized himself as the change agent for a generation, he now holds the marbles for all change, good or bad, caused by him or not.
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I think lots of people treat this Highest-Ranked-Chicago-Community-Organizer as a direct threat to their Families.
And that turns personal. Action - reaction response.
First year in Office and look at his "accomplishments" (read - fakaps).
Now, multiply this by 3 more years. Ouch
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No suprise here at all. People can only bend so far until they break. I wonder if the threats against the "leaders" of the House and Senate have skyrocketed as well.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_328927.html

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NEWARK, N.J. A private security guard at Newark Liberty International Airport was arrested on charges of threatening Barack Obama the night before the president was to fly there.

A Continental Airlines employee reported overhearing John Brek make threatening comments at an airport coffee cart Tuesday afternoon.

The 55-year-old security guard was arrested several hours later, Port Authority spokesman John Kelly said. He denied making the threats, said Malcolm Wiley, a spokesman for the U.S. Secret Service.
Wow, the security guard was arrested based upon a single uncomfirmed allegation by another airport worker.
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oh man, for the life of me I don`t think I can find an article I read months back that showed if anything were to happen it would be from the left.

-The attack on JFK was by a communist
-The attempt on President Reagan by was by a communist
-List of all the movies, documentaries on Bush assassination fantasies, etc...

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And of course this happens yesterday............http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/1..._n_328927.html
Wow. It seems like they really didn't have much on this guy. "A Continental Airlines employee reported overhearing John Brek make threatening comments at an airport coffee cart Tuesday afternoon."

EDIT: Looks like indy85_starion had the same thought I did.
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Chris Matthews inciting blatant violence against Rush Limbaugh on MSNBC:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC9uSnFFGvQ


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I could be thinking of an article that was never posted here, but I thought we already covered this. The definition of "death threat" has basically changed between the Bush and Obama administrations.

People would show up at anti-Bush demonstrations holding up extremely threatening signs and nobody lifted a finger. Now, for both legitimate (too many people still just don't like blacks) and illegitimate (the Obama administration has some very paranoid fear of criticism of its absurd policies) reasons, everybody is suddenly on high alert.
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I could be thinking of an article that was never posted here, but I thought we already covered this. The definition of "death threat" has basically changed between the Bush and Obama administrations.

People would show up at anti-Bush demonstrations holding up extremely threatening signs and nobody lifted a finger. Now, for both legitimate (too many people still just don't like blacks) and illegitimate (the Obama administration has some very paranoid fear of criticism of its absurd policies) reasons, everybody is suddenly on high alert.


Precisely.
Death threats against Bush were just protest.
Death threats against Obama are actual death threats.
Protest against Bush was the highest form of patriotism.
Protest against Obama is unamerican and racist.

The left doesn't understand that after eight years of "death to Bush" this hypocritical stuff falls on deaf ears.
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I thought the secret service was obliged to take every threat as serious, however ridiculous it sounded?
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Upset is one thing, I can understand rage in hating someone that you're forced to deal with, and of course I can understand where the human rage emotion leads to....

....However that doesn't change how dangerous and out of control some people are getting. Again, I never thought I'd see anything worse than the peoples actions against Bush, but in Obama's FIRST year, actually far less than his first year, it's even more volatile than anything we witnessed with Bush. Ironically so many of the same people foaming at the mouth toward Obama, putting all "respect" aside, are the same people who complained about it when the other side did it toward Bush.

My point is this, hate him all you want, but I hope anyone who's promoting the actions that would make the more unintelligent actually rationally think of acting out violently, understands that if anything ever happened to the guy, this Country would very possibly be at a war within itself which will surpass anything we've probably seen before.

On a less dramatic note, hopefully they can realize that all this is doing is taking more of our money, and putting his and his Staffs attention away from the real problems, as they're in a constant state of putting forth all the effort they can in simply keeping him protected and safe.

There have to be better ways to try and get points across, and make strides in the oppositions cause, than resorting to these antics.
There was this one group of people about 234 years ago that took things to this same level too. You are living in the result of their sacrifice.
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Upset is one thing, I can understand rage in hating someone that you're forced to deal with, and of course I can understand where the human rage emotion leads to....

....However that doesn't change how dangerous and out of control some people are getting. Again, I never thought I'd see anything worse than the peoples actions against Bush, but in Obama's FIRST year, actually far less than his first year, it's even more volatile than anything we witnessed with Bush. Ironically so many of the same people foaming at the mouth toward Obama, putting all "respect" aside, are the same people who complained about it when the other side did it toward Bush.
You seem to be selective in what you consider "Dangerous and out of control" You claim that "Bush was the most hated American president" which is perhaps true for the left. I think Richard Nixon, was less liked than Bush ever was. There are people who liked, and like Bush. The liberals in this country are the ones who took this hatred to the extreme. Also remember that Bush was pretty popular (popular enough to be re-elected in 2004), his policies were "pro American", tax cuts, strong defense, AMerica is Number one, etc. Things that appeal to all Americans except leftists who perpetually complain about our country, take full advantage of the freedoms they are given and the suffering of soldiers, agents, etc so they can say what they do and then have the ***** to call it "Patriotism". So because YOU hated Bush doesn't mean "everyone" hated Bush.

As for respect, The rallies against Bush were the most vitriolic and personally I though Traitorous in the history of the United States. "Death to Bush" was the mantra not only in Tehran, but also in DC by AMERICANS! All of the protests against Obama are against his policies. Of course there are crazies, racists, etc. out there, but to say the right hasn't respected Obama in a fashion worse than the lefts treatment of Bush shows that you're full of crap and completely oblivious to reality.

All the left did was call Bush "stupid". He can't even pronounce "nuciler" attacks that were hateful and personal . Now, when we don't like Obama's policies we are disrespecting him? Calling a president a socialist is not the same as calling him a moron.

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My point is this, hate him all you want, but I hope anyone who's promoting the actions that would make the more unintelligent actually rationally think of acting out violently, understands that if anything ever happened to the guy, this Country would very possibly be at a war within itself which will surpass anything we've probably seen before.
Keep in mind that a "threat to the president" could be anything - someone could just in passing say he'd like to see him dead, and that's enough to bring the secret service down on your azz. Look at the guy in Newark - he was "overheard" saying something. Now he could have been planning, yes, but being "overheard" saying something isn't the same as "threatening" someone.

And if someone does take a shot at him, I don't think the entire black community would do what you are implying, yes there will be people like Sharpton who will try, but I don't think you'll see the race war you imply.

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On a less dramatic note, hopefully they can realize that all this is doing is taking more of our money, and putting his and his Staffs attention away from the real problems, as they're in a constant state of putting forth all the effort they can in simply keeping him protected and safe.
"More of our money"? LOL. Are you kidding? The what? $5M to protect him versus the $1.4 TRILLION he is spending for his socialist policies.?

"Staff's attention away from the real problems"? You mean like his jaunt to Copenhagen for the Olympic bid? The $3M in secret service protection, AF1, etc to get his azz over there?



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There have to be better ways to try and get points across, and make strides in the oppositions cause, than resorting to these antics.
I don't disagree that there are better ways of getting a message across, but to pretend that the Obama administration hasn't brought some of this on themselves and that all of this is based on some racist hate groups (which admittedly I'm sure some of it is) is just hypocrisy at it's finest.

This man could very well end up being the worst president in American history, not because he's black, but because of his ideology, his total mishandling of ALL sectors - economic, military, environmental of American life and his arrogance. Of course no one will be able to point out that he was the worst because that would be racist, but he is definitely leading this country down the path to long term ruin.

And before you say he and his administration is not arrogant, I don't recall at any time the Bush administration going after the media becasue of their treatment of his administration, and unlike the free ride Obama has been getting Bush was treated MUCH worse.
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I think this is to be expected when a politician tries to bring change (perceived or real). People don't like change because they fear and resist uncertainty... especially when the upsides are not so evident and the downsides are plain scary. This is one manifestation of that fear. I think that the world is changing regardless of Obama (I don't give him that much credit), but since he characterized himself as the change agent for a generation, he now holds the marbles for all change, good or bad, caused by him or not.
Very well said.
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This man could very well end up being the worst president in American history, not because he's black, but because of his ideology, his total mishandling of ALL sectors - economic, military, environmental of American life and his arrogance. Of course no one will be able to point out that he was the worst because that would be racist, but he is definitely leading this country down the path to long term ruin.
You mean Mr. Barack "I'm-Only-Black-When-It-Suits-Me-Politically" Obama? He is still half white last I checked.

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Because the media isn't laying down for his policies, especially Fox News.
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Because the media isn't laying down for his policies, especially Fox News.
yup and he seems to lose a lot of sleep over it lol

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This is not shocking news and I feel it will get worse. Bush was treated far worse than Obama on all levels...

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There's a worrying number of people here who seem to think that death threats against the President are a good thing.

Good grief. Your country is seriously f---ed up.
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I remembered where I previously read about this hypocrisy around the new definition of "death threats" - none other than the legendary Zombie!

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

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