Israel condemned over raid on Gaza aid convoy

[BKLYN_C]

Originally Posted by Mister Brenton The current chief of staff is a dual American-Israeli citizen. Are you aware of that? That crook is more anti Israel than an average flotilla activist. All he is interested is to become major of Chicago.

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[NdnMbLova]

Originally Posted by Mister Brenton

The current chief of staff is a dual American-Israeli citizen. Are you aware of that?

Nope! Nobody told me that. I was under the assumption that when taking a Government job, one had to get rid of all other citizenship.

[NdnMbLova]

http://trueslant.com/charlesjohnson/...pool-of-blood/

http://trueslant.com/charlesjohnson/...ivists-weapon/

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures...USRTR2EV0A#a=2

[Glasgow Gold]

Originally Posted by NdnMbLova

http://trueslant.com/charlesjohnson/...pool-of-blood/

http://trueslant.com/charlesjohnson/...ivists-weapon/

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures...USRTR2EV0A#a=2

Good find, the grand lizard might yet become relevant again.

This now makes two important things that are coming out of all of this nonsense. The first was the recognition of Turkey's radical drift (see the WSJ piece I linked earlier). The second is this brutal reminder that the so called "news agencies" are hardly independent, credible or trustworthy. Whether Roto Reuters (recall that Johnson owned them before in the 2006 Lebanon war - see Wiki below) or Helen Thomas (the old hag's pathetic ending chronicled in the link below), these "reporters" are grinding the ax hard.

Pretty ironic given all of the whining over the IDF's videos!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_thomas_israel_remarks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_H...hs_controversy

[Tymah123]

Originally Posted by Glasgow Gold

... or Helen Thomas (the old hag's pathetic ending chronicled in the link below)...

Love this pic of her...

[whiteongrey]

Originally Posted by hkmb

You're absolutely right. He will do what all other recent American Presidents have done. He'll appease the Israelis, capitulate to the Israelis, and surrender to the Israelis.

"You want undeclared nuclear weapons? Fine! You want to conduct an illegal blockade? No problem! You want to violate countless UN resolutions by continuing your illegal occupation? I can't see anything wrong with that! You want to use illegal weapons in attacks on both military and civilian targets? Absolutely! You want to conduct illegal assassinations using forged passports of our allies? That sounds cool!"

"You know, I could pretend that I give a s--t that, while The Hero Reagan was President, you were offering to sell nuclear weapons to apartheid South Africa. But I won't."

Yep. Appease. Capitulate. Surrender. Whether we're American, Canadian, British, or Australian, it's what we'll always do for Israel.

This is normal considering Israel is a micro-state smaller than many cities / acting as a subsiduary of USA special interests and it biggest weapons client.

No one else cares because they have no resources (except great beaches and hot Russian girls) and constantly demonstrate belligerence and zero respect for international law and human rights.

The Arabs don't really care because Israel is of no consequence - just a thorn that irritates from time to time.

It is a very corrupt state at all levels. It's fiscal existence relies on conflict.
- USA aid, special people making loads for doing nothing off US welfare / aid,
- huge black markets earnings arising from blockades etc.

Poverty is extreme: official poverty level is income $363 / mth and 25% of the population are in poverty at this measure. LOL - try and live on even a $1000 mth there...

Tunnels are also the primary way for getting massive amounts of party drugs into Israel.

Tunnels are the primary weapons highways and have been forever. The blockade is a joke - more distraction from problems at home.

[mleskovar]

Originally Posted by Tymah123

Love this pic of her...

That pic was taken just before the house fell on her.

[Kaz]

Originally Posted by mleskovar

That pic was taken just before the house fell on her.

her gingerbread house?

[mleskovar]

Originally Posted by Kaz

her gingerbread house?

No, that would be Barbara Boxer and it still stands. This one ended with Thomas' legs withering up leaving behind the ruby slippers.

[NdnMbLova]

I was reading an article, I forget where, that those tunnel owners(Egypt-Gaza) earn around 300k USD a year.

[Air Marshall Eldritch]

Originally Posted by Tymah123

Love this pic of her...

She used to be so hot in her younger days:

[chiphomme]

Originally Posted by mleskovar

That pic was taken just before the house fell on her.

[mleskovar]

Originally Posted by chiphomme

That's the one

[Red Marko]

Originally Posted by Tymah123

Love this pic of her...

May I print this pic, stick it in a cookie jar and scare all the kids away?

I suspect 100% success rate.

[Kaz]

Ayn Rand on Israel and the Middle East, its sad that this is just as relevant today as it was back then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHSv1asFvU

[S55inPA]

hey guys.
i'm late to this thread and i haven't read it
all yet but here is a great piece by the hammer.
sorry if it is a repost.

Krauthammer: Those troublesome Jews

Charles Krauthammer
Friday, June 4, 2010; A19



"The world is outraged at Israel's blockade of Gaza. Turkey denounces its illegality, inhumanity, barbarity, etc. The usual U.N. suspects, Third World and European, join in. The Obama administration dithers.

But as Leslie Gelb, former president of the Council on Foreign Relations, writes, the blockade is not just perfectly rational, it is perfectly legal. Gaza under Hamas is a self-declared enemy of Israel -- a declaration backed up by more than 4,000 rockets fired at Israeli civilian territory. Yet having pledged itself to unceasing belligerency, Hamas claims victimhood when Israel imposes a blockade to prevent Hamas from arming itself with still more rockets.

In World War II, with full international legality, the United States blockaded Germany and Japan. And during the October 1962 missile crisis, we blockaded ("quarantined") Cuba. Arms-bearing Russian ships headed to Cuba turned back because the Soviets knew that the U.S. Navy would either board them or sink them. Yet Israel is accused of international criminality for doing precisely what John Kennedy did: impose a naval blockade to prevent a hostile state from acquiring lethal weaponry.

Oh, but weren't the Gaza-bound ships on a mission of humanitarian relief? No. Otherwise they would have accepted Israel's offer to bring their supplies to an Israeli port, be inspected for military materiel and have the rest trucked by Israel into Gaza -- as every week 10,000 tons of food, medicine and other humanitarian supplies are sent by Israel to Gaza.

Why was the offer refused? Because, as organizer Greta Berlin admitted, the flotilla was not about humanitarian relief but about breaking the blockade, i.e., ending Israel's inspection regime, which would mean unlimited shipping into Gaza and thus the unlimited arming of Hamas.

Israel has already twice intercepted ships laden with Iranian arms destined for Hezbollah and Gaza. What country would allow that?

But even more important, why did Israel even have to resort to blockade? Because, blockade is Israel's fallback as the world systematically de-legitimizes its traditional ways of defending itself -- forward and active defense.

(1) Forward defense: As a small, densely populated country surrounded by hostile states, Israel had, for its first half-century, adopted forward defense -- fighting wars on enemy territory (such as the Sinai and Golan Heights) rather than its own.

Where possible (Sinai, for example) Israel has traded territory for peace. But where peace offers were refused, Israel retained the territory as a protective buffer zone. Thus Israel retained a small strip of southern Lebanon to protect the villages of northern Israel. And it took many losses in Gaza, rather than expose Israeli border towns to Palestinian terror attacks. It is for the same reason America wages a grinding war in Afghanistan: You fight them there, so you don't have to fight them here.

But under overwhelming outside pressure, Israel gave it up. The Israelis were told the occupations were not just illegal but at the root of the anti-Israel insurgencies -- and therefore withdrawal, by removing the cause, would bring peace.

Land for peace. Remember? Well, during the past decade, Israel gave the land -- evacuating South Lebanon in 2000 and Gaza in 2005. What did it get? An intensification of belligerency, heavy militarization of the enemy side, multiple kidnappings, cross-border attacks and, from Gaza, years of unrelenting rocket attack.

(2) Active defense: Israel then had to switch to active defense -- military action to disrupt, dismantle and defeat (to borrow President Obama's description of our campaign against the Taliban and al-Qaeda) the newly armed terrorist mini-states established in southern Lebanon and Gaza after Israel withdrew.

The result? The Lebanon war of 2006 and Gaza operation of 2008-09. They were met with yet another avalanche of opprobrium and calumny by the same international community that had demanded the land-for-peace Israeli withdrawals in the first place. Worse, the U.N. Goldstone report, which essentially criminalized Israel's defensive operation in Gaza while whitewashing the casus belli -- the preceding and unprovoked Hamas rocket war -- effectively de-legitimized any active Israeli defense against its self-declared terror enemies.

(3) Passive defense: Without forward or active defense, Israel is left with but the most passive and benign of all defenses -- a blockade to simply prevent enemy rearmament. Yet, as we speak, this too is headed for international de-legitimation. Even the United States is now moving toward having it abolished.

But, if none of these is permissible, what's left?

Ah, but that's the point. It's the point understood by the blockade-busting flotilla of useful idiots and terror sympathizers, by the Turkish front organization that funded it, by the automatic anti-Israel Third World chorus at the United Nations, and by the supine Europeans who've had quite enough of the Jewish problem.

What's left? Nothing. The whole point of this relentless international campaign is to deprive Israel of any legitimate form of self-defense. Why, just last week, the Obama administration joined the jackals, and reversed four decades of U.S. practice, by signing onto a consensus document that singles out Israel's possession of nuclear weapons -- thus de-legitimizing Israel's very last line of defense: deterrence.

The world is tired of these troublesome Jews, 6 million -- that number again -- hard by the Mediterranean, refusing every invitation to national suicide. For which they are relentlessly demonized, ghettoized and constrained from defending themselves, even as the more committed anti-Zionists -- Iranian in particular -- openly prepare a more final solution."

letters@ charleskrauthammer.com

[Glasgow Gold]

Great finds as usual guys.

The Hammer nails it and Ayn Rand - well, wow - perhaps even better than the content was the fact that she was basically telling that clown Donahue to pound sand.

[Kaz]

Thousands rally for Israel in Beverly Hills

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=76304





Thousands rally in Manhattan against the Ground Zero mosque proposal

http://urbaninfidel.blogspot.com/201...-new-york.html
http://www.lookingattheleft.com/2010...-zero-rally-2/

[mleskovar]

The Pat Condell video is right on as usual.

[Glasgow Gold]

Condell is a fascinating guy and there is much to explore at his web-site. Is he a modern day Ayn Rand?!

Like Rand, there is one major challenge involved in the popularization of Condell's "platform" - his intense atheism. And, like many atheists, Condell is pretty tough on religious people in general, one could even argue ridiculing.

That is consistent I suppose, but the reality is that the GOP is the only party that is going to turn the many good ideas of the Rands and Condells of the world into policy. The GOP, in turn, is Christian, often devout, and is likely to become even more so if it is to grow (e.g., Hispanics) like we need it to.

I'm honestly not sure how to reconcile this. Thoughts?

http://www.patcondell.com/

[vraa]

Originally Posted by Glasgow Gold

Condell is a fascinating guy and there is much to explore at his web-site. Is he a modern day Ayn Rand?!

Like Rand, there is one major challenge involved in the popularization of Condell's "platform" - his intense atheism. And, like many atheists, Condell is pretty tough on religious people in general, one could even argue ridiculing.

That is consistent I suppose, but the reality is that the GOP is the only party that is going to turn the many good ideas of the Rands and Condells of the world into policy. The GOP, in turn, is Christian, often devout, and is likely to become even more so if it is to grow (e.g., Hispanics) like we need it to.

I'm honestly not sure how to reconcile this. Thoughts?

http://www.patcondell.com/

Faith is a negative to reason
Hope, because objectively we're ****ed.

[mleskovar]

Originally Posted by Glasgow Gold

...The GOP, in turn, is Christian, often devout, and is likely to become even more so if it is to grow (e.g., Hispanics) like we need it to....I'm honestly not sure how to reconcile this. Thoughts?....

Take religion out of politics. I know, easier said than done but it's the only way and multiple problems would be solved at the same time.