android takes over 53% (73% in Q3 2012) world market share

[RedG]

Originally Posted by K-A Apple is anything but losing. Apple's restrictive nature will be its downfall.

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[Das Geld 2]

Originally Posted by RedG

Apple's restrictive nature will be its downfall.

We have a prophet over here!

Guess what we're evolving into a more fascist society and it will be like the movie THX 1138 and APPLE will be there.

[K-A]

Originally Posted by RedG

Apple's restrictive nature will be its downfall.

I never can grasp the anti-Apple mindframe. Why root for the best, most lean, most profitable, most well run, and most innovative-ly operating company to fail? Jealousy? The attachment to cheaper, poorer built products? The classic "build them up then break them down" American mindframe? I find that when somebody does the unthinkable, which is outsmart and outpace everybody else, people just want to sell them the "old way" of doing things, i.e debt, Wall Street shenanigans, bloated operating outlook, etc. to inevitably make them "just another company" and bring them down.

Apple's got so much cash, such little (ZERO) debt, and so much momentum, that even a "downfall" wouldn't let them get to anywhere near "red" levels in any of our lifetimes. They can close up shop for a decade and probably still be one of the richest companies around. This company smartly doesn't even have Factories weighing them down. Lean, nimble, smart, able to pivot on call, little overhead. Take the logo away so you eradicate the haters and fanboys, and you have sheer brilliance, which is thanks to Steve Jobs, but not ONLY Steve Jobs.... Much of Steve's genius rested in his ability to find talent, and delegate to them. For example, Apple's innovative and unique operating structure, which is one of the leading factors of their enormous wealth, was all Tim Cook (the current CEO).

[06E55]

Oh this thread never ceases to amaze me...

http://www.redmondpie.com/one-third-...nd-blackberry/

http://www.redmondpie.com/ios-share-...the-iphone-4s/

But remember, bigben and skratch want us to have the impression that the iPhone is dead...

[K-A]

Earnings results are today. Expect anti-Apple's to be dissecting every number with foam coming out of their mouths for a misstep.

"They ONLY Sold 27 Billion iPhones"? "They ONLY made xx Billion"?

Only Apple gets such fortunate treatment. Anyone else reports numbers a fraction as good as Apple and they get the royal treatment.

[bigben320e]

Originally Posted by 06E55

Oh this thread never ceases to amaze me...

http://www.redmondpie.com/one-third-...nd-blackberry/

http://www.redmondpie.com/ios-share-...the-iphone-4s/

But remember, bigben and skratch want us to have the impression that the iPhone is dead...

Let me make it clear to all reading this thread...Skratch and I do not share the same thoughts or ideals on this subject. It was stated clearly and explicitly if you read back through this thread. I never stated that the iPhone was dead, not even insinuated it was dying. I said all of the ecosystems were great and I use them all (unbiased), and they all have a place on the market. Stated it about 3-4 times on the thread, just putting it in perspective.

[06E55]

Originally Posted by K-A

Earnings results are today. Expect anti-Apple's to be dissecting every number with foam coming out of their mouths for a misstep.

"They ONLY Sold 27 Billion iPhones"? "They ONLY made xx Billion"?

Only Apple gets such fortunate treatment. Anyone else reports numbers a fraction as good as Apple and they get the royal treatment.

Of course... The same was said of MicroSoft in it's heyday... And any other successful company for that matter... I think as a whole, people love to hate success...

[K-A]

Oh. My. God.

MASSIVE! Where are the Apple haters at now??!!

I'll be honest, I didn't think they could beat estimates, but they slaughtered them this Quarter. You gotta give it to them.

http://www.businessinsider.com/live-...arnings-2012-1

[tm4exc]

So why doesn't my dorid razr download the phone book to the command. MY gl is 2008with all options. I have a new MB puck (my old one paired with my v3 razr) which pairs with the new droid razr phone for calls. but the phone book only downloads "other" which or just numbers or voice numbers which I had previously set up. How can I ge the whol phone book like I used to???

[06E55]

Originally Posted by tm4exc

So why doesn't my dorid razr download the phone book to the command. MY gl is 2008with all options. I have a new MB puck (my old one paired with my v3 razr) which pairs with the new droid razr phone for calls. but the phone book only downloads "other" which or just numbers or voice numbers which I had previously set up. How can I ge the whol phone book like I used to???

You might want to post this in an appropriate forum...

[cdd]

Hey Skratch, where is your "ZOMG iPhone sux and is ded bcuz my cuz hates his and lovz his Nexus!!!1!!" post?

I stand by my initial statement that the smartphone war is about two things: distribution and product pricing (within the entire portfolo of devices). Once Apple 1)ramps up distribution and is on equal footing with Samsung on # of carriers selling the devices and 2)has a full suite of legacy devices filling out the product portfolio from a pricing perspective, the share will tilt in favor of iPhone.

Most people don't care about hardware specs, etc. they want ease of use. And Apple has that equation solved.

And.....moving beyond units sold, the real story is about money being made. And the simple fact is that Apple is a freaking monster at printing cash--way more than anyone else. Craig Moffett joked that the "great sucking sound" we were hearing was the "value transfer" from the wireless carriers to Apple vis a vis selling so many units.

No great sucking sound to Google (Android)/Samsung.

Q4Share link
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderd...4/?mod=BOLBlog

Moffett quote link
http://news.investors.com/Newsfeed/A...le-shines.aspx

"Craig Moffett, analyst with Bernstein Research, quipped in a note to clients of a 'great sucking sound' that he said was the 'sound of value transfer from the carriers to Cupertino,'"

[Red Marko]

After very careful review of this thread, I understand why there is such a huge group of iphone followers.
May I present iSnort!



Everything is about distribution. And money saving. And an image, at least 99% of an image.

Android is lacking in this regard. Huge fail in software development department.

[K-A]

Looks like Apple overtook Android's universally available/no cost software family last Quarter in about every regard anyway. Where's Scratch at? All those Brothers and friends and Brothers friends friends could't prevent it from happening?

[Das Geld 2]

Calling Scracth

[06E55]

Skratch is long gone... He knows he doesn't have a leg to stand on (heck, a foot for that matter) since Apple published it's recent report. And the thing is, I don't see Apple declining substantially anytime soon. Sure, I realize that it will happen, but the thing that most people don't understand is Apple sells an experience. As others have said, it's more about ease of use in an aesthetically pleasing package than raw hardcore hardware. I would much rather have a slightly slower phone that works all the time the way I want it to than something that is state of the art and a pain in the *** to use. I fooled around with a few of the newest Android devices the other day at BestBuy and personally did not like them. The phone was too big for my liking (I personally think Apple nailed the size of the iPhone exactly as any phone should be... it's PERFECT to use with one hand be it large hands like mine or smaller hands like my wife's) and honestly, the OS sucks... Say what you want about the iPhone but Apple definitely knows what they are doing and every iteration of it will bring more and more users... Android may go back and forth with market share, but for reasons already discussed, we know why... Seeing the market share Apple has with the iPhone, there is no doubt that it is the most successful cellular phone of all time and will continue to be for quite some time to come...

[K-A]

How can anybody trash a company that was already practically the richest company in the world, that posted a 118% increase Y.O.Y??!!

Seriously, this isn't fanboy babble, this is the best run and executed company of all time. Best part is, they did it like the Punk Rocker amongst Suit and Tie Wall Street suckers (who eat, sleep, and breath debt, over-growth-obsessions and diversification fetishes) that Steve Jobs is. The current team are more than capable of leading this company into the next several years. Once we hit 2015 or so is when I think the ultimate task as to how well they can keep Steve's momentum going will come into effect, and I for one have no doubts They've done everything to a "T" since he left, and have solidified, and added some great players, keeping Jobs' core team tight. Not to mention, an extreme amount of success from multiple facets come from the very team he selected, who are live and kicking within the company today.

[06E55]

Steve definitely knew what he was doing when he chose the officers/leaders he did. He definitely knew his time with Apple was limited due to his health and he sought out and obtained key people that can lead this company for many years to come. Tim Cook is very much the person responsible for the massive profits realized over the past few years and for years to come. $96.7 billion in CASH. That is simply amazing!

There is no doubt Steve Jobs was a visionary. He knew his customers well and accepted no compromise. I remember hearing the rumors of what turned out to be the iPhone several years before it was announced. Early pictures showed it being a classic iPod but larger... I imagined not having to carry both my iPod and my cell phone and how great that would be. I remember thinking that if Apple came out with a phone, it would be revolutionary... It definitely was, and as Apple themselves say, it changed everything. Sure, there were touch sensitive phones, but those required stylists... The capacitive multi-touch phone is now that standard. The design of the phone (dimensions, few buttons, etc.) is also the standard now and almost every phone out today copies it in some ways...

Apple has pretty much changed life as we know it.. iXXXX is used in almost every market, even outside of technology. Seen as a hobbyist phone in the beginning, the iPhone is now being adapted by major corporations and is replacing BlackBerry and Windows phones as the standard.

The key for Apple in the future will continue to have innovative devices that everyone will want... To change lifestyles... To make life simpler...

I can only picture the iPhone continuing to evolve. To have iOS become more and more powerful. To have it integrate with a multitude of devices (vehicle infotainment, in-home multimedia systems, etc.)... Imagine a seamless integration in all aspects of life... From the time we wake up to the the time we get in our vehicles to the time we get back home to the time we go to bed at night, iOS/OS X devices are constantly giving us the information we desire seamlessly. We wake up and Siri announces the news/stocks/weather information based on daily habits (imagine, it is so aware that it knows on Tuesdays we go to a different Starbucks than normal due to a meeting and it automatically announces possible delays for us and the best route to take before we even get to our vehicle). We then get into our vehicle and infotainment system is able to access Siri as well all of our key applications on our iPhone. As we are driving, our infotainment system constantly updates us based on habits... We get back home and our favorite TV channels are displayed, our computers are updated, etc.

I can only imagine what Apple execs are planning on doing with that much cash on hand... Get ready from some acquisitions of innovative technology companies that will only expand the offerings of Apple... The will bring Apple's products to more and more people...

It's no mistake that even in times of economic crisis, Apple is making record profits...

[Cartronics]

.... And last month Android market share actually dropped and gained with iOS. I am not against Android, but I have to admit, the walled garden of iOS makes the product much more stable. From an accessories maker point of view, Android's wild west nature makes supporting it with all the flavors (and associated bugs and poorly done software) a nightmare.

[Red Marko]

Easy with that:

There is no doubt Steve Jobs was a visionary. He knew his customers well and accepted no compromise. I remember hearing the rumors of what turned out to be the iPhone several years before it was announced. Early pictures showed it being a classic iPod but larger... I imagined not having to carry both my iPod and my cell phone and how great that would be. I remember thinking that if Apple came out with a phone, it would be revolutionary... It definitely was, and as Apple themselves say, it changed everything. Sure, there were touch sensitive phones, but those required stylists... The capacitive multi-touch phone is now that standard. The design of the phone (dimensions, few buttons, etc.) is also the standard now and almost every phone out today copies it in some ways...

Apple copied the first "mouse" pointing device from Xerox. And the Graphical User Interface (GUI) as we know it now, from Stanford Research Institute (SRI) and the touch screen technology from the "Sketchpad" of 1963 developed by Ivan Sutherland. The arrogance of Apple is just mind numbing. Apple and Steve Jobs DID NOT, NEVER, EVER INVENT ANYTHING. If they ever did invent or created something, it was the MARKET for their devices.

But, I grant you that:

Apple has pretty much changed life as we know it.. iXXXX is used in almost every market, even outside of technology. Seen as a hobbyist phone in the beginning...

And as a proof, I present you with few ... self-proofs:




















Let me know if you like it.
I do!!!




















Sorry for low pic quality

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Originally Posted by Red Marko

Easy with that:


Apple copied the first "mouse" pointing device from Xerox. And the Graphical User Interface (GUI) as we know it now, from Stanford Research Institute (SRI) and the touch screen technology from the "Sketchpad" of 1963 developed by Ivan Sutherland. The arrogance of Apple is just mind numbing. Apple and Steve Jobs DID NOT, NEVER, EVER INVENT ANYTHING. If they ever did invent or created something, it was the MARKET for their devices.

Where did I say they invented anything? Where in this thread has ANYONE suggested they invented anything for that matter?

[K-A]

Ruh roh:

Android Falls Out of Favor as Holiday Buyers Pick Apple’s IPhone
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...-s-iphone.html

What happened Scratch?! What about your Brothers brothers brother, and your brothers sisters best friends mom? Didn't they return their iPhones????

[Cartronics]

Apple never claimed to invent...they were very good (and ARE very good) at taking a concept and making it near perfect as possible.

[whiteongrey]

Anyone know the % of earning from the content & app sales?

[cdd]

From All Things D

Headline: iPhone Outselling All Other Smartphones Combined at Sprint and AT&T

Of course, the article also mentions the strong results for Samsung, making this look like a two-horse race, but the reports of Apple's death are greatly exaggerated.

Skratch, I await your eloquent reply.

http://allthingsd.com/20120402/iphon...print-and-att/

[K-A]

I just cashed out almost half of my AAPL shares yesterday (with the intent to buy right back, just wanted to free up some cash with Tax Season coming up, and maybe buy a new car on the side), and made solid profits by betting on the best fundamental company with the best and most revered product line with the highest margins anyone can imagine.

So yeah, Android can suck it.