Headers and prices

Jen_Kenne · 08-23-2009, 11:21 AM

I have looked at various headers for V-8 Mercedes, and the prices tend to be several thousand dollars -- and up. I looked at ostensibly similar headers for Camaro/SB Chevy V8 in the Jegs catalog, and there were several brands (similar to our situation), with prices of painted headers being about $375, ceramic coated headers about $450, and stainless steel the most expensive at $525. The prices for several vendors were about the same -- Hooker, Hedman, etc. Are we simply being gouged again and paying $2,000 - $4,000 for SS headers that should be selling for $500?

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Benz-O-Rama · 08-23-2009, 11:35 AM

I've got a set of VRP shorty headers for sale. They're plug and play, bolting directly to your OEM downpipe. PM me if you're interested.

James@ACGAutomotive · 08-25-2009, 08:26 AM

You must keep in mind that market that the product is sold to after it is developed. The market for an american muscle car is much much larger then a mercedes AMG vehicle.

so you need to factory in the cost of R&D, fabication and materials over the number of units that are projected to be sold. If the development cost lets say for a round number is $10,000 and you expect to sell lets say 50 sets. You must factory in a development cost is $200 per set. however if you know that you will be selling lets say 500 units then your development cost per unit is now down to $20.

Then you factory in the profit margins, advertising and the actual cost of the unit starts to rise. You also need to keep in mind, that advertising the in the european market is at a premium over the American market.

madgoat · 08-25-2009, 10:07 PM

You will see more of the prices dropping as more people get into the market. The tuning prices are going to drop quite a bit in the next year.You can already see it. There are many aftermarket manufacturers looking to expand their markets beyond Ford/GM/Dodge. I feel ya on the header prices. I can have Kooks headers make me a one off set for less than some of prices out there. I think $1200-1800 for stainless headers is realistic for good quality stuff. There are some guys under $2k right now so we are on the right track. The prices though on many other items have been going down since I purchased my E55 a few months ago.

mbbpro · 08-26-2009, 07:40 AM

Did you buy a Mercedes or a Camaro?

C63newdude · 08-31-2009, 01:42 AM

I don't know about $500. I paid $1695 for my C6 Z06 headers last year plus $300 for 3 HFC so that is like $2000. The headers that I purchased were made by www.lgmotorsports.com

dskompress24 · 09-19-2009, 12:42 PM

kleemann makes headers for the M271 engine for about a $1000, infact they even had a special for a while, when they were down to about $600

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08-25-2009, 10:07 PM	#4
madgoat Member 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Join Date: May 2009 Location: Longwood Posts: 110 Drives: 2006 E55	You will see more of the prices dropping as more people get into the market. The tuning prices are going to drop quite a bit in the next year.You can already see it. There are many aftermarket manufacturers looking to expand their markets beyond Ford/GM/Dodge. I feel ya on the header prices. I can have Kooks headers make me a one off set for less than some of prices out there. I think $1200-1800 for stainless headers is realistic for good quality stuff. There are some guys under $2k right now so we are on the right track. The prices though on many other items have been going down since I purchased my E55 a few months ago. __________________ 2006 E55 tuned by SCT 1993 Cobra w/ 03 Cobra motor SCT

08-26-2009, 07:40 AM	#5
mbbpro Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 18 Drives: E55	headers Did you buy a Mercedes or a Camaro?

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dskompress24 Junior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Orange County Posts: 54 Drives: C230 Kompressor	kleemann makes headers for the M271 engine for about a $1000, infact they even had a special for a while, when they were down to about $600 __________________ Mods: Resonator Delete, Tint 5% rear 15% front, black grille, blacked out tailights, rims powder coated semi-gloss black by HMS, eibach pro kit, Lorinser Emblems, LED City lights, Custom Exhaust (Pics Coming) To Come:Tinted Mirror Signals, Brabus Replica Rear apron and front lip spoiler, CF Diffuser, CF add on front lip, M271 Pulley and ECU Tune by LET, TCU by Kleemann, Headers by Kleemann

08-31-2009, 01:42 AM	#6
C63newdude MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,453 Drives: C63 AMG	I don't know about $500. I paid $1695 for my C6 Z06 headers last year plus $300 for 3 HFC so that is like $2000. The headers that I purchased were made by www.lgmotorsports.com

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