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Old 10-16-2014, 07:02 AM
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Not happy with Eurocharged stage 2 performance dyno sheets

Got the stage 2 Eurocharged package installed on my CLS55 a few days ago and got it on the dynojet today.
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Eurocharged 55 Series Performance Engine Software
Eurocharged 55 Series Performance Transmission Software
55 Series SC pulley with Eurocharged 180mm Crank Pulley
Kleeman Headers
E55 Heat Exchanger
Johnson CM30 I/C PumpThey clam it will make
deleted primary cats

607 HP and 671 trq to the crank , well today my dyno sheets show 431.48 hp to wheels and 482.12 trq to wheels. does it not seem low, shouldn't it have around an extra 50 gain on both HP and Trq?

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my personal calculations are:
607 hp crank x .25 drivetrain loss = 151.75 loss
607 hp crank - 151.75 loss = 455.25 RWHP

671 crank trq x .25 loss = 167.75 loss
671 crank trq - 167.75 loss = 503.25

my whp is 431
my w torque is 482
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did you do a before and after on the car?

Did they check IAT's, and was the cooling system properly purged? Did they measure boost?

Something seems off, can you also post the full graph?
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did you do a before and after on the car?

Did they check IAT's, and was the cooling system properly purged? Did they measure boost?

Something seems off, can you also post the full graph?
Run conditions 72 F humdity 36%


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Run conditions 72 F humdity 36%


datalog your IAT's... I bet you have a bubble in the system
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datalog your IAT's... I bet you have a bubble in the system
What and how ?
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I'm new to this sorry
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IAT= intake air temps. When the car gets hot it dumps fuel to cool itself and you lose a ton of power. You can get a handheld or datalogger at any autozone and see the logs
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You use the Euro-flash V2 software, select the tune file WITHOUT REFLASHING, and go to Datalogging. That will let you log and record your IATs and other numbers while you make your run in the car.
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going to have the system checked for leaks or bubbles this week see if it changes, the air fuel ratio is out of wack at high rpms so either a bubble in the cooling or heat soak
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dont discount factors of the dyno itself...Smoothing and correction factors can greatly alter your end result....i personally prefer that the operater run my cars uncorrected, in that manner what you make is what you make. If you look at the top right of your chart you will see that there is a correction factor set and smoothing set, and then in the bottom left you will see that .99%, that is correction as well.

dont get me wrong, i am NOT saying that the previous posts are not on point or offering any vehicle specific answers as to why your car may/may not be putting down what you think it should...just pointing out that the graph you showed doesnt technically provide you with the "real" numbers that your car puts down to begin with
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Originally Posted by jptaylor
http://www.axceleratedmotorsports.com/Tech.cfm

dont discount factors of the dyno itself...Smoothing and correction factors can greatly alter your end result....i personally prefer that the operater run my cars uncorrected, in that manner what you make is what you make. If you look at the top right of your chart you will see that there is a correction factor set and smoothing set, and then in the bottom left you will see that .99%, that is correction as well.

dont get me wrong, i am NOT saying that the previous posts are not on point or offering any vehicle specific answers as to why your car may/may not be putting down what you think it should...just pointing out that the graph you showed doesnt technically provide you with the "real" numbers that your car puts down to begin with
thanks for that info, either way if i do the equation it only adds a couple hp to the wheels, as it sits now its off by around 50 hp and trq. not acceptable
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i am getting my system purged for bubbles and also getting a stand alone IC coolant tank installed as we speak to help with heat soak, well see what happens, going to get it dyno again on tuesday
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i also am denoting with 20 in wheels this can lower hp numbers
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installed a split coolant box and bled the system will dyno again shortly
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Hi

How did you bleed the coolant system once you installed the tank?

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How did you bleed the coolant system once you installed the tank?

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yes car feels much stronger but waiting till i get proof from dyno
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Any update.
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Any update.
have not had time sorry, its on my list of dos

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