S500 Man

Has anybody tried retrofitting the 2010 s class style headlights and tail lights on their first gen w221?

JonMBZ

No but I did look up the prices today there were not too bad about 3k for the headlights and 1k for the tail lights. The only issue I thought there might be is the whole front bumper assembly is different not really sure if the led part takes up more space than the old ones do. I also noticed a few other parts that had 2010 codes on it so I am interested in see what the differences are. I guess I could actually look at the car lol. I noticed the side markers are different and the license plate lamps are different. I ordered a set I am wondering if they are the LED type as well.

Diesel Benz

Did you have a look at the wiring too and the price involved when trying to match the two?

JonMBZ

No I didn't check the wiring when I first thought about it I didn't think they would be different. I did look right now and it does show a different body mounted wiring harness though. I am not totally sure what the differences are, but they could very well be something different because of those lights. This is looking like it will be a little more in dept than I will be able to figure out on my own without ordering every part new and old and matching them all up. I was also told by a tech everything on the 221 has to be coded online with the star even headlights. So I am also guessing it could be rejected for being the incorrect part for the vehicle. I have had a few inquiries on these, but nothing substantial to warrant more in dept investigation on how to do this. I would have to order about 10k in parts to be able to check them all out :O just for the electrical then we have the issue with proper fitment and software version coding/bulb out warnings heh. Maybe MBenNL might know some of the differences in the electrical.

S500 Man

i saw a 2007 s class with the newer style tail lights on ebay last night!

JonMBZ

I saw that as well. I have a customer that is going to purchase them even though I told him I do not think they will work. I have a feeling they will end up going overseas though, but hopefully I can get some incite from his attempt. I already ordered the parts so maybe I can snap some pics and see if anyone else can look at theirs and see if they are the same connection. Actually I might have some regular ones in stock since our body shop probably goes through a lot of these items. I will let you know.

petee1997

I have one question. Why would you do it? The car will still be what it is.

JonMBZ

they look better why not ? People have been updating parts on their vehicles all the time on every model. It's not like he is making the car out to be something that it is not. It's still an S550. I want to put LED tail lights on my car as well and they are not a factory option. Does that mean I am making it out to be something that it is not? That's a silly outlook on things for anyone wanting to enhance the look of their vehicles. It's not like he's slapping S65' badges on his car.

S500 Man

Thats a smart question.....hmmm let me think...cause the new ones look better?

JonMBZ

unfortunately the new style ones do have different connections and the lights are missing the xenon control units so there will be those to factor into the cost and at least a wiring harness ;(

aschb

I asked my MB dealer (Switzerland) to quote a price for a complete upgrade (front and back). Estimated cost: US$ 10K (material and labor)

irieblue

The only person I'd allow to do this upgrade would be MBenzNL (and I'm *NOT* considering this, as I think the 2010 tail lights no longer represent a unique design). The dealer is essentially telling you they don't care for your business. 10K is just stupid.

Diesel Benz

Assuming they would have to change not only the lights but also SAMs, possibly something else as a chain reaction, $10k may not be enough.

carsnob

Why not change the amber front marker lights to clear? It looks way better imo. The cost is minimal and gives a nice effect.
Also, while you're on the subject of upgrades, it's also nice to change the cd cover, ashtray and cupholder covers to wood. It matches right up to the surrounding wood (according to your VIN).
Too bad you can't change to those new front lower lights....

vintagefefe

I just bought the taillights from Sonicms. They are just figuring out how to ship them to me. I seriously doubt the taillights will be a big issue. It will only be 3 connectors if anything - reverse, brake and hard brake. How hard can it be?

Oh no, I better not just jinx myself, lol.

Diesel Benz

I cannot find any changes on the rear lights wiring diagram. Would be odd if the plugs were changed in this case. In any case as you say, should not be too difficult to have those installed.

JonMBZ

I have pictures of both new and old. I took a quick look at the tails and they look to have the same type of connection, but I didn't count the prongs. I was just going to look at the pics, but my card reader at work broke so I will post them when I get home. I wish people would stop calling me trying to trick me into thinking they have a 2010 that some how got put in a trash compactor accident and need these parts ha. I know what they want and are trying and they don't need to mislead the dealer. I am sure they don't want to end up with 4k of worthless parts.

JonMBZ

Well here are the pictures. It looks like the tail lights might work, but for the headlights I am not really sure what would have to be done to get it to work.



http://www.mbz.cc/W221/

AsmanS550

i just got the tail lights installed as well as the mirrors of the 2010 s550
the mirrors work great i love looking at the size of the mirrors .... theres only one problem with i dont know why my dash board is telling me that my rear side markers are fused they blink on and off 11 times the turn off
can anyone help me fix this problem

AsmanS550

i wouldnt do the head lights theres alot of work to do on it which is a waist of my time and money first the plugs are just not going to fit directly in like the rear tail light or mirrors 2nd theres 2 plugs on the old one and one plug for the new on
if theres anyone who has time to do all this plz send me pix

FloridaMB

I am considering doing this mod. Would you be kind enough to answer a few questions?

Was the install plug-n-play?
Did you resolve the problem with the dash board notification?
How much were the parts?
Pictures????

AsmanS550

well if u ask me its not worth the time or effort i got everything at wholesale price the total was around $5000 USD... to turn my tail lights mirrors and bumpers as well as side skirts of a 2010 s65 the front head lights around around 1600 each which i could not get on unless i do major modifications and alot of time on testing and no i did no get the tail lights (side markers working) its just the game of finding out thats what the amperage difference between my 2007 and the 2010 side markers i just dont have time

Mercedes22

How hard where the mirrors to install and what price where they ? Many thanks.

AsmanS550

usd the mirrors were 450 each painted but the dealer there were the same size as mine and required NO MODIFICATIONS

AsmanS550

they also have the affect of the mercedes Maybach (the turn signals stay on slightly on the mirrors you could only notice them when its completely dark