jattsingh

I also got both the Viseo and Music Link Units. I do like the Viseo one a bit more, and it does display the tracks on the dash info center on my 2008 s550. They both have clear and crisp audio however the only thing that its lacking is Bass. I am wondering if we can tweak the EQ setting in the iPhone to give it more Bass. other than that I am very happy.

About Siri I have found that you have to switch off of Aux to something else. Then it works. However it seems to have problems when you are streaming BT audio and try to use siri at the same time.

M15T4B

I have the Viseo in a 2007 S65 paired with a Samsung Note 3. Everything works but the song information.


The display in the dash just says 123, 123 and the last command from the steering wheel controls.


The next previous and fast forward all work fine.


I have tried Pandora, Spotify, the built in music app, non of them display the track info but the next and previous buttons work fine.


I also have the Bluetooth puck in the center console and I pair the phone to both and there are no issues.


Have not tried this with a apple device yet but I do have a iPad mini that I will try later.

ixotuckeroxi

so droid guys will need to get the ipod 30 pin connector kit, get it installed, have the dealer activate it, then buy the viseeo, then we can stream to the radio?

does the dealer really have to activate to utilize the ipod connector part? wow that's a lot of stuff for bt audio.

Trey

I purchased the Viseeo from Amazon and it arrived this morning. DOA. No matter what I plugged it into, the car iPod connector or 2 radios I have with 30 pin connectors, it would never power up nor be visible to my phone. Sent it back and ordered another one... Hope the next one works.

Trey

Follow up... Second one arrived today and does not power up in my car either. It did however power up connected to one radio. I think the 30 pin connector in the car may be the culprit. Apple changed the pin out somewhere along the line and now not all 30 pin devices are compatible. I ordered an adapter to see if this will give it juice. Will know next Wednesday.

Mandingo

For the bass issue I selected "Loudness" EQ on my iPhone. Still not perfect but better. Obviously everyone has their own personal preferences on EQ.

Siri is a pain - I was hoping newer firmware would fix this but I cannot get the firmware updated on my Tune2air - no computer recognizes the unit when it connects (tried Windows 7 32-bit, Windows 7 64-bit).

Two questions:-

1) Does the newest firmware improve Siri behavior?
2) How did you update the firmware since I can't get the PC to detect the USB device at all

jattsingh

Siri still doesnt work 100%. I have to select another audio source like CD or radio and then I can use Siri which is not optimal.

I have not updated the firmware, and I was not aware that updating the firmware would fix this issue. I will try to do more research about that.

I selected Hip Hop setting and it seems to give better bass and I am happy overall with that setting.

Trey

Delayed responding back.... Received the 30 pin adapter and it made no difference. Fiddled with it for a while and just left it all in the glovebox in frustration. Couple of weeks later (today) was just browsing the forum and came upon another post not in this thread that someone mentioned having to open the drivers door to get the unit to power up. BINGO! I had been sitting in the passenger seat every time I was playing with it. Works perfectly and sounds great.

Siri is a bit of a disappointment and I checked my unit and the Viseeo website. Mine has the latest 3.22 firmware and Siri still does not function properly. Maybe we will get lucky in a future update. Using one of the workarounds isn't so bad.

Carters550

So I order to use this unit , you need to change the aux cable to an I pod kit ..is that correct

Mandingo

I worked out the issue with the firmware update - the unit CANNOT be pairing with a phone when you're trying to get the PC to recognize it as a new USB device. So by disabling bluetooth on my iPhone while I plug in to the PC, the device gets discovered by Windows. Yay.

The bad news is I then run in to a different problem:- "The upgrade operation was stopped while attempting to prepare the BlueCore module…".

Still trying to fix that one

Trey

Yes this unit requires iPod kit.

Carters550

Got it ...thank you .

Mandingo

So after living with the ViseeO solution for a month I am switching back to the ML-D100.

The additional benefits of the Tune2air (which are nice) are unfortunately canceled out by the issues:-

1. It grabs the music stream so aggressively that if I just want to have my application audio feeding through the AUX (navigation voice guidance for example) without music it forces the iPod to play and won't allow me to pause the iPod
2. Siri requires too much of a workaround to be usable
3. Updating the firmware is a nightmare (still not managed to do it successfully)

I have my iPhone on a mount so I can get to the iPhone UI anyway to get track data/skip tracks so I think I'll just have to shelve the Tune2air unless they fix the firmware at a later date.

ViseeO if you are reading this please update your software - it makes a unit with good potential almost unusable IMHO.

1. Let me pause my iPod if I choose to
2. Let me use Siri without requiring a disconnect of the Tune2air

I suspect both of these behaviors are caused by the same issue (Tune2air constantly issues requests for the music stream to restart).

Mandingo

I finally got the firmware to update.

Here are the key elements:

1) The Tune2air *cannot be actively paired* when you're trying to get the PC to recognize it as a USB device. So switch off bluetooth on your phone (and/or PC) when connecting it to your computer.

2) I had some failures to successfully flash the unit, I reinstalled the Windows driver from the ViseeO site and then it worked correctly.

However, after all that, the latest firmware (v3.22) doesn't make the pausing or Siri problem any better so again I am not recommending this unit until they address these issues.

aznevoviii

Ordered mind today!

hope it comes in friday! (amazon prime account baby!!)

BBALLER

Can confirm the viseeO works flawlessly in my 2011!!

Mike5215

Works flawlessly in my 10. I think the issue rests with the COMAND Media Interface Firmware in the 07-09 cars. I also discovered a cool feature for Ipod control I never realize existed, that is accessible on Tune2Air or connected to the device directly.

You can navigate your music library using the telephone keypad (under the clamshell). For example, if you want to find an artist deep in the library but don't want to scroll through dozens of screens to get there:

Press the alphanumeric key (2-ABC) (3-DEF) and COMAND will display the letters associated with that key.

Press the key again and it will cycle through the three letters available on that key. Stop on the desired letter and wait 2 secs. You'll immediately jump to that letter in your song or artist list. A huge timesaver for big libraries.

cerisinc

I bought the cool stream while I was overseas with anticipation that it would work as advertised. Well, the phone connected to the BT without issue but the car could not see beyond the adapter.

For s&g I also did a hard link test of iPhone and iPad, both successful on all media.

So, I have ordered ViseeO Tune2air WMA1000. Seems like the best bet. 3-5 days and I will update after I install and listen to my array of genres.

Chris

skeelo

I stopped using my tune2air because of the inferior sound quality vs analog. It's too bad because the device does work quite well. I have the b&o system and the tune2air is comparable to fm radio quality ;(

Mike5215

Interesting. How do you connect direct (aux in or iPod cable)?

skeelo

AUX - i'm on android. It's annoying having a wire from the glove box going to the console and another front he cigarette lighter in order to charge it but at least my music sounds as clear as it can without doing anything more excessive

Mike5215

I've discovered that not all device's Bluetooth Audio circuits are created equal. Every Android device I've tried (and I just bought a fairly new LG Intuition to try as a media player in the car) sounds fine via the headphone jack, and terrible over BT, regardless of the type of receiver. On the other hand, Apple's BT output, especially in the Iphone/Ipod 4 and above is very good. I can't hear an audible difference vs a 30 pin (or Lightning)

BT audio isn't capable of lossless playback, but it's still a very robust system, with support for up to a 48khtz sampling frequencies and a 345kbs bitrate for stereo streams. Any tracks encoded at or below 320kbs should receive no compression at all. My 256kb AAC library over BT is indistinguishable from a wired connection.

Still, relatively speaking, the BT audio on your B&O system should sound quite a bit better than FM (which has a much lower equivalent bitrate) on the same system. I'd be interested to know how it performs on high bitrate encoded digital files on an Apple device.

How are your files encoded?

skeelo

Perhaps i was a little too critical in saying it sounds like FM. It sounds more like HD quality FM or just plain Sirius satellite radio. There is a decent amount of fidelity that is lost - most noticeable in the upper range frequencies - I guess i'd compare it to a 128 or 192 bitrate - certainly not 300s. It's probably not enough for most people to be bothered by.

I ordered an Iphone 6 so I will update this post comparing my galaxy s4 vs iphone 6 sound quality over bluetooth (in probably a week or two). Im keeping my fingers crossed that there is not enough audible difference for me to be able to notice. Also, in my aftermarket unit (pioneer avic z140) in my older m3 and m5 I can't tell a difference in sound quality in wired vs bluetooth on my galaxy s4, fwiw.

Mike5215

One of the problems(?) with a high end system is that it can exacerbate shortcomings in the source material. The problem with the harman/kardon system, and to a lesser extent my modded system, is that it's overly bright...too much definition in the highs and not in a good way. To get what sounds "balanced" to me, I use the Ipod's internal EQ set to "Bass Boost" which cuts the highs and mids just enough, so if the Tune2AIr suppresses mids/highs it actually helps in the case of the Harman/Kardon.

Interested to see how the IPhone sounds.

nir

I ordered the tune2air with your guys recommendation. IT's great. it was plug and play. best money i ever spent! i tried it with both an iPhone and a galaxy note (android) on my s63, and they both sound great. What i loved about the iPhone is that it shows all the song info on the speedometer screen. steering control work with both. Thank you again.