1bad540

hey guys looking to stagger the wheels on my 10 s550 4 matic with some factory reps in 20" perhaps. what is the correct staggered size?

WHPH28

Although staggered is not recommended on 4matics, it is done with no issues at all. The oem staggered sizes are:

Front: 255/35/20
Rear: 275/35/20

1bad540

Ok that's the size I thought. Thanks!! you runnin the same size on the 600?

WHPH28

No, I have 255/40/20 front and 275/35/20 rear. I am putting my 285's back on the rear sometime soon though since I pushed that little metal tab in that was causing the rubbing.

1bad540

you would run the toyos again?

Mike5215

The OEM staggered is a safe bet and looks proportional too as far as sidewall height, and the impact on ride quality is minimal vs 19's. Rubbing on the rears tends to be a rim offset issue rather than a tire tread block width problem.

A 9.5" on a 35mm offset (the typical replica offset) and OEM spec 20" rear tires should not rub. I'd say run those factory spec 20's on wheels with a 35mm (or greater) offset and you should be good to go.

OEM Spec is 275/35 rear and 255/35 front. That gives you a 2% variance in rolling diameter, well within the 3% margin of safety recommended for AWD staggered set ups.

WHPH28

Yes! I love them and they are quiet with an excellent grip in wet weather from my experience.

I got them from tread depot.

1bad540

Cool I'll look into those, did you get new sensors? Where did u get new lugs from? Just pulled the trigger on s63 reps.

WHPH28

advanceauto...they are 51.99 each, but i got them for 40% off at the time using a coupon code online and picked them up in the store. You can reuse your old sensors but I just put new ones on. If you put your old wheels back on the sensors will already be in there and you can just swap them. If you don't plan to put your old wheels back on, then takem them out and put them in the new wheels.

These below are for 07-09. If your car is 10+ you need the 433mhz sensors.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/v...earchTerm=tpms


You can get lugs from amazon or ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/20-BLACK-CONE-SEAT-LUG-BOLTS-14X1-5-THREAD-PITCH-28MM-SHANK/251775351512?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D29980%26meid%3Dbf6857125c944f4bbe12d0b0e7ba0f94%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D151414526744&rt=nc

1bad540

I think I need 315hz like those say no? found them on ebay oem looks like for 85.00 shipped if there the correct ones. I guess I can test fit the wheels w my existing lugs when they come in, not sure how to tell if I need different lugs though? how r u getting 40-50% off at advance? looks like 15% off.

saeki1

all 4 for $85 shipped?! thats some deal

share the link please haha

i found one at amazon for about $130 for all four for my 2013.

WHPH28

use code TRT41. You get 40.00 off of 100.00. Buy online and pick them up in the store. I get akebonos from there also. You just have to use different codes and break up your order to get the best discount. You can buy 2 and then buy 2 more separately.

Ebay has them also cheap.. I just hate waiting for shipping for things unless they can do overnight shipping so I pay the extra for local sales. :-)


Your lug nuts will be too long. They will screw in and once they get to a certain point they will stop and not sit in the hole, you will have space between the wheel and lug nut.

triniexr

Its better to make sure... I thought I had those, bought and installed them, then I realized that I needed 433Mhz. Now I have the "tire pressure monitors inoperable" on my screen.

1bad540

ouch, how do you know which ones you need?

WHPH28

These below are for 07-09. If your car is 10+ you need the 433mhz sensors.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/v...earchTerm=tpms

saeki1

Just made an offer to the $85 ebay one. They accepted my first offer of $75. Seller respond was very fast too!
They dont have warranty on the tpms but they said they will take care of their customer

Mike5215

The lug seats are different on the reps as well. They usually take an Audi spec ball lug. Check with the vendor of your specific wheels.

WHPH28

Ebay is usually pretty good. I've purchased sensors for my range rover and never had an issue with them.

1bad540

you sure?? I thought 10 up needed 315?

saeki1

Ordered 433 for my 2013.
If you want to make sure just call the dealer =)

1bad540

Oh yea? do they know by vin or something?

saeki1

You might not even need to give them vin number but yeah it might help

WHPH28

10+ needs 433mhz.

1bad540

yup you are correct, my dealer said 433 thanks broseph!!!

1bad540

cool, I Ordered them looks like they will also accept 70.00!! Not bad. I also got a quote of 850 for conti dws installed from a local tire place so all in all think ill be under 2k for rims tires and sensors. Now I need some lowering links and akebonos!!!