alextaylor29

Perfect thank you again!

sound 8

OK so if having the words AMG is the most important then get the 65.
But I don't think many of you read through my post, I had a CL65 if anything
better than a S65 and a 600 to compare any time I wanted.The difference
between them was small, in terms of everything, inc extras. Sorry I was wrong, the front brakes are 4 pot, but they look as big as a 6 pot, it does
have smaller 4 pot on the rear. I haven't yet had a car giving me a hard
time in the 600, even though it's stock, and with passengers. As I say if
you don't mind 600 on the boot lid ( kinda cute I think ) and the small
differences and a pocket full of cash difference it must be the 600.
Over to you.

sound 8

Here they are.

tonykharper

Sound 8,

If I gave you the impression that the S65 is better than an S600 then I did not state my case very well.

My point is the S600 is built for a picticular target audience.

Which suits you best, is your call, not mine.

The S550 fits most people best, that is why they make so many of them.

The S600 is aimed at the senior executive that wants power, comfort, and all the bells, and whistles.

The S65 AMG is "performance art" made in very small numbers, for the enthusiast.

Yes, one can modify the S550, S600, or a model T Ford, and make them faster than a stock S65 AMG. But that is hardly the point is it?

Think of it as "factory" hot rod vs "homemade/after market" hot rod.

To each his own.

Apparently you did not appreciate your CL65 AMG for what it was.

Tony

Zax63

My rotors were shot at 30 k but I put EBC pads on at 18k, and that might have hurt things. My rotors had stress cracks by 30k. The dealer gave me a break( no pun intended) and the fronts were 2650. My Indy quoted me 2600. the problem is the rotors are 900 bucks a piece, and no one makes a substitute that I could find. Plenty of search engines come up with cheap subs, but when push comes to shove they wouldn't fit. I think 63k miles on S65 brakes is highly unusual, I think 30k or less is the norm. People like to quote the initial cost of the car (180k) or so as a guideline for maintenance costs; I'd take it one step further and remind you that many of the underpinnings are from a 350k Maybach!

sound 8

I don't care for your words," which suits you well " how do you mean, that I will go for second best, or I am a silly old guy, well , obviously I didn't state
my case well either. A CL65 to me is a S65 unless you can prove huge
differences. When I bought my 65 I owned the most powerful 4 seater car
on the planet, I was invincible. Nothing but the 65 would do.
But after getting use to it I found it wasn't quite what I thought it would be I thought it would crucify every other car without breaking a sweat.
Now the 600 was over a 100k , I think you'll find most people in the UK anyway buy the S320 diesel so the 600 is hardly entry level. I have far more
fun in the 600 because it's not an AMG yet will still blow others into the wind.
I think most executives buy the 600 because they don't want the slightly more boy racer looks from the body kit and exhausts. Now that doesn't bother me , in fact I like the body kit and exhaust. So yes I would have a 65
I am just pointing out that for 50k less the 600 is almost as good and certainly has as many toys

tonykharper

Sound 8,

I'll try this again.

First, I never used the term "which suits you well" . Look for yourself. I said "suits you best" and I added that was your determination, not mine.

Second, I never said you were a "silly old guy". I have no idea your age.

Third, I never said the S600 was an entry level vehicle. That is just plain crazy. Don't know where you got that from.

I see you mentioned the UK, but perhaps English isn't your first language.

Anyway, I'm sorry the CL 65 wasn't all you hoped it to be. My S65 brings a smile to my face every time I drive it. If your S600 does the same for you we are both winners!

Tony

Quadrobenz

I agree the longevity I have seen with my rotors is way above average for a W220 S65. I replaced the pads once. The rotors will have to be replaced with the next pad replacement, likely around 70k miles. Most of my driving is on the SoCal freeways and toll roads. This is the only repair unique to the S65 I have seen. The coil packs apply to either the 600 or 65. The rear struts were mechanical failures, not ABC failure.
All the other expensive repairs would apply to any W220 S class. These were so far: sun visor failure, drivers seat inflatable bladder failure and Comand system failure. That has been it through 63k miles.
I did have to replace the motor mounts on the SL600 but not yet on the 65.
The tire size on the W220 S65 is apparently not a common one so I see fewer choices of brand each time I need new tires. Inflation pressure is very important with this car. I have found 43 front, 36 rear results in the best handling and results in even wear across the tire tread. This is not what is on the door label. If four passengers and luggage are routinely carried the rears should be increased to 38 or 39 PSI.

Becks Imports

It's too bad the rotors last longer than the coil packs or ABC components! Should be the other way around.

Bruce

sound 8

I find your posts condescending, and owning and driving a 65 is something
you like to boast about. The op asks for advice about buying a 65, all I am
trying to say is the 600 offers almost the same for a lot less. In fact the
600 feels more nimble than the 65 so all this is based on evidence not hearsay.You say the 600 was built for particular market which suits me best,
what the hell is that suppose to mean, that I will settle for second best, or
maybe I am not such an aficionados and you are, what the hell S550 has to
do with it beats me. If I do settle for less why would I have bought the CL65.
The CL65 offered the tiniest bit more acceleration, but I don't buy cars just
for one thing, well maybe having 600 hp was the reason in this case, and it
turned out to be the wrong reason, in my opinion the 600 is altogether a better car to drive than a CL65 and I presume a S65. Have you ever driven a 600? OK you prefer yours and I prefer mine, but that's no reason to say that
only special types of enthusiasts prefer the 65 if the 600 was the same price
I would still choose it, in fact I think it's the best car I have ever owned, and
can't see any reason for ever selling it. Sure I'm in the UK, where are you?

sound 8

Yes I am English, what are you? maybe you should get a spell checker.

WDLUGITCH

I think you are a little impressed with your own importance. You should seriously consider putting a hose in the tailpipe, extending it into your driver side window, rolling it up, and sitting in your car with engine on. We will, then, hopefully, not see more of your idiotic posts.

babyman1737

+1, seriously.

This guy is like in every subforum that I read. It's VERY annoying. You'd think being from the UK he'd better understand the English language??

WDLUGITCH

You WOULD think.

CottRD

While this is out of date for Alex, I had an 04 S600 with 67K miles. Then last year I found an 06 S65 with only 10K miles. Both are excellent. My only complaint with the S65 is that it seems to downshift under mild acceleration where the S600 didn't and you seemed to "feel" the torque of the engine at lower RPM's whereas the S65 downshifts to a lower gear at higher RPM's. Strangely the S600 felt more impressive under similar circumstances around town as you sensed the torque of the engine. I would prefer in "C" mode that the S65's transmission would not downshift so quickly. Handling is really very similar even though the S600 has 18" rims though my car had the AMG package so the rears were wider.

Quadrobenz

After I put a Eurocharged tune on the S65 the car downshifts less frequently because it is much more responsive at part throttle. The other alternative is to drive in M mode. This eliminates most of the part throttle downshifting present in Sport mode.

brendan777

I don't see why anyone would get a S600 now that the S65 is priced not far off, second hand of course.