BillyD

S63 Cabriolet DOG Update 2.23.16.pdf

For those interested, I've atttached the DOG for the 2017 S Class Convertibles.

Hope this helps.

Bill

Heisenberg

Thank you for posting.

I've had this document for a bit and have studied it. I noticed a few changes that might apply to the coupe too. To my knowledge the MY17 coupe DOG has not been released yet.

• Deleted option > 557 Heated Windshield
• New option > P60 Exterior Night Styling Package for all models
• New option > designo Porcelain / Deep Sea Blue Exclusive nappa leather for all models
• Change - Crystal Grey / Black leather > Crystal Grey / Seashell Grey for AMG only

I wonder if the Crystal Grey / Black > Crystal Grey / Seashell Grey is an error, or if not perhaps it's only applicable to the cabriolet. It seems unusual to change it up in the M17 and make this one particular color combination different on the S550 versus S63/65. Upholstery colors have previously been identical, with the only difference between the non-AMG and AMG models being the tuft pattern - I wish that were the same too as I definitely prefer the look of the S550 seats. Anyway I was planning on ordering my My17 S63 Coupe with the Crystal Grey / Black combo so hopefully it still available.

IWC dashboard clock is listed as standard equipment (pg 14) which is certainly incorrect; I've only seen the dashboard clock in the saloon.

All photos I have found of the cabriolet interior show absolutely no change from the MY15/16 S Coupe, other than the cabriolet specific features of course, and the new porcelain/blue leather combo.

BillyD

I think the Grey/Black vs. Grey/Grey is an interesting question. I guess we will have to wait for the '17 Coupe DOG to see if it applies to both the Coupe and the Cabrio.

If it does change and it's very important to you, maybe you should look around for an already-produced '16 Coupe. I suspect that if you find one that suits you, you'll be able to negotiate a significant discount vs. MSRP.

You're right on the Clock. It's only on the sedan. Maybe it will be corrected on the next A217 DOG update (if there is one).

Heisenberg

I am definitely keeping an eye on resales, both S63 and S65. MY15 S63 Coupes are showing up in the $130k range already. I'm not expecting to get more than 7% off MSRP on a new one built to spec, although I think discounts are getting a bit easier to come by as supply has caught up to demand. But that obviously that only applies to the coupe.

I am thinking the Grey/Grey might be another error in the early A217 DOG, along with the clock... they might have been incorrectly copied and pasted from the S Class sedan file, which has both the IWC clock and an avaiable Crystal Grey / Seashell Grey interior.

Also the Mercedes-Benz Germany site has an active online configurator for the cabriolet, and the upholstery option shown remains Grey/Black. It seems up to date too, with the new Porcelain / Deep Sea Blue option available. Here is the link for those interested, Chrome will automatically translate but even without that it isn't too hard to follow:

http://www.mercedes-benz.de/content/...lass/a217.html

COOPERDB

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Billy - Thanks for sharing

Just found the time to peruse the DOG

At least with the cabrio it shows that

to check 5U5 you still have to check

610

I was told that was going to change

on the MY17 coupe

My contact said the MY17 coupe DOG

would be released on 5-6-16

We shall see


Thank-You
D.B.


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Heisenberg

My salesman initially said the same re: 5U5 & 610 based on what he had heard, back in the January-February timeframe.

However, based on the existing A217 DOG and online configurators available in UK & Germany, it seems that Nightview remains a prerequisite for the crystal headlamps for MY17. It can be assumed all the headlamps assembled with Swarovski crystals also have the IR illuminators installed, and they want their $ for them.

Guess we will find out in a week. Disappointing that there is so little change for MY17. Maybe they will allow an upgrade to COMAND NTG 5.5 when it is officially released with the W213, that's probably the best we can hope for.

COOPERDB

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If the MY17 coupe DOG

is released next week

I will be suprised


Thank-You
D.B.


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COOPERDB

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Doing the same

On Cargurus alone there are

50+ brand new 2016 S63 coupes

Those are going to have to

see a price reduction soon

and this will also show a

substantial price reduction

for the 2015 S63 coupe


Only one of the new 2016

S63 coupes in white on Cargurus was

ordered with CCB's


Just my opinion - I think that when

an S63 coupe has CCB's it then

is in a class above the S63 coupe

with red painted calipers

Done right

When I see an S class coupe the

first thing I look at is the brakes


Feel free to tell me what is wrong

with me as well as what is wrong

with my opinion


Thank-You
D.B.


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Heisenberg

I agree and was planning on ordering the CCBs. With the steel brakes I prefer the grey to red calipers myself.

Most resales look like dealer specs - black or white exterior paint, black interior, DAP and W/C packages, few other options. The Edition1 would be perfect, save for the red interior which isn't to my liking.

I'm looking for a highly optioned car (except for SplitView which I absolutely do not want) with the porcelain or preferably the grey/black interior... not going to be easy to find.

SouthernNC

The configurator for the S63 cabriolet has finally been added to the Mercedes USA site:

http://www.mbusa.com/mercedes/vehicles/model/class-S/model-S63A4

Perhaps a few are sailing the ocean blue even now. That promised "late spring" availability is running close.

AMG 17GT

These coupes depreciate more than any other.

Who needs Ceramic brakes on this coupe? You won't be tracking it. It's a beauty Queen....

COOPERDB

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I am well aware of how the S63 Coupe will depreciate

Don't care as I am looking to keep this car for sometime

And I plan on paying cash

With the CCB's - Just everyday use they should last

much longer than the steel brakes

They are what I want

When I pay $200k for a car I want it to look the way

I want it to look

I plan on an ECU tune - tint - lowered - Downpipes

and HRE's

But with the release of the MY17 S63 Coupe DOG

I have decided to wait not only for the 9 speed transmission

but also for the updated electronics

In a couple of years the S63 Coupe will be referred to as

the new ones with the 9 speed or you have an old one with the 7 speed

Kind of like the shrinkage one experiences after having been in the

swimming pool


Thank-You
D.B.


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Heisenberg

Just about every car in this segment range depreciates very fast - Conti GT, Rolls Wraith, Aston Rapide. The sports cars at the same price point, like the McLaren 570S and R8 V10 Plus, may fare a little better. I've considered them but really should buy a car with rear seats for my teenage daughters. The McLaren 570GT that is just coming out is going to be really, really nice but after experiencing the S class interior, it is hard to go back into even a nicely appointed sports car. Among the exotics, only Ferrari seems to maintain value, because of their loyal following and extremely controlled production.

I'm planning on CCBs because they won't need to replaced in 4-5 years of anticipated ownership, they generate minimal dust, and they look f'ing cool. It is certainly the rarest option to see on a S63/65, understandably because of the cost, so it adds a bit more exclusivity on a car that is already very exclusive. As for the track, yeah it is not a race car at nearly 2-1/2 tons. But particularly for those like me who plan to get an ECU power upgrade (600 whp and 700wtq should is obtainable on 91 pump gas, more with 93), it will probably see quarter mile runs and some occasional street drags and the CCBs will hold up much better. I wouldn't want CCBs on a primarily track car because they are too costly to replace.


Love that analogy

I was disappointed that none of the new tech made it for MY17. If my CLS63 lease weren't ending I'd be inclined to wait too. I suspect some of the new tech like Drive Pilot could be enabled by software, if Mercedes followed Tesla's initiative and offered updates for existing owners. Not bloody likely, though.

It will be interesting to see how the 9G works out in the AMG models. Not sure I'd want to be buy one of the early adopters. The 7G-MCT has been pretty damn good in my CLS63-S, after years of incremental refinements, and I know it can reliabley handle massive torque. Everything points to an engine downsize in the refresh to the 4L V8TT; it surely will be boosted like the E63S to ~ 600hp, but torque cannot match the M157 and there is probably little or no headroom to further increase output via the ECU.

And remember release of a refreshed car means the next generation vehicle is already in progress...

AMG 17GT

They all do drop in first 2 but Actually continentals are ALOT more valuable after initial 2 years. Just look at Manheim prices.

If you're keeping the car for a while I can understand the justification for the carbon fiber brakes actually as they want $3000 for front brakes are my CL 63. And no brake dust !

I totally agree with your decision to wait for the nine speed transmission. That will completely differentiate your car.

Heisenberg

Anyone know if the future 9G for AMG models will have a torque converter versus wet clutch ? I'm definitely prefer the wet clutch both for launching the car and weight savings. The sequential gearboxes themselves I suspect are very similar semi-automatics, other than the two extra gears which probably are which I would think are relevant for fuel economy than performance.

Also for those who are waiting on the 9sp, it may not show up in the coupe or cabriolet until MY19, late summer of fall 2018, a year after the sedan.

jenz

Issue with waiting, you have to draw the line somewhere

Two more years and now you'll be only a year away from a design change, too

Heisenberg

Exactly.

I'm happy with the current engine, transmission and tech so decided not to wait.

thewb

Oh how I can't wait for this

BillyD

The C/A217 DOGs were updated on June 10th.

Looks like the only change vs. the previous DOG is to the top speed for the S63s/S65s ( to 186mph).

Probably a typo in the first place or a carry over from the S63/65 European models that don't have the Driver's Package option.

Interesting to note that this is the 4th update (for both C217 and A217 DOGs) since the original DOG issue.

Hope this helps.

Heisenberg

It was an update to correct the error, the USA S63 models have always been and remain limited at 186 mph, not 155 mph.

Still have two local dealers that get a lot of 'heavy metal' cars telling me there are no allocations yet for the S63 coupe. They also both told me there would be some new safety technology in them, presumably from the E... guess time will tell. Based on the DOG, only MY17 changes are the availability of the exterior night styling package and porcelein/blue interior options. And a net price increase of $1050 (base MSRP + $1600, DAP - $550).