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Old 07-21-2016, 11:36 PM
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For those with Weistec S/C and meth

For those with Weistec SC and meth, (1) how much did the meth help in reducing IATs? (2) You installed the meth nozzle in the Weistec intake - at that plug location in the intake bend? and (3) What meth vendor kit did you use? Thanks for any help or response.

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1) no help at all
2) yes
3) Devils Own

I use meth simply to help compensate for out substandard fuel. Mine is set up to spray conservatively otherwise the AFRs will dip too much
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1) no help at all
2) yes
3) Devils Own

I use meth simply to help compensate for out substandard fuel. Mine is set up to spray conservatively otherwise the AFRs will dip too much
Dam, I was afraid of that.

Do you know if it is possible to move the nozzle to one of the two holes/opening by the map sensor on the weistec intercooler...you think that would then lower IATs?
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I don't know. When I had mine installed, I made enquiries with some of the more knowledgeable forum members about nozzle location and followed their advice. If you find a way to use meth to improve IATs, I'd be keen to know about it
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You know I don't have the Weistec, but I would imagine there's a similar location as SneakyNeon's that could be used on your setup: right after the intercooler across from the MAP sensor. Mayhaps a bit downstream of the MAP if possible.

Personally I wouldn't touch a Devil's Own kit, the injection method and failsafes on the Aquamist are far superior. With HFS-3 I consistently see IAT's well below ambient when it is injecting. Take out a point of fuel or so depending on W/M ratio and you are good to go.

Those are my two copper.
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You know I don't have the Weistec, but I would imagine there's a similar location as SneakyNeon's that could be used on your setup: right after the intercooler across from the MAP sensor. Mayhaps a bit downstream of the MAP if possible.
Yes, but given Weistecs configuration, I have not been able to find that similar location.
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Get your self a nitrous kit and call it a day.
yeh, that is an idea.
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Any one else with Weistec and meth on their E?
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I had it, my meth never did help either going through that port in the bend. I switched over to a small wet shot and the iats dropped a ton.
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Originally Posted by chawkins2001
I had it, my meth never did help either going through that port in the bend. I switched over to a small wet shot and the iats dropped a ton.
Did you by chance ever consider putting a meht nozzle in one of the two small port/openings in the back by the bypass valve, by the map sensor?

The Allen bolt caps for those two opening are 1/8 NPT, the same as meth nozzles, and looks like the same thread pitch.

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Anybody thought about a metal spacer between the intercooler and Weistec sc, like 1/2 or 1 inch, so that you can have ports in that spacer for meth nozzle?
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Anybody thought about a metal spacer between the intercooler and Weistec sc, like 1/2 or 1 inch, so that you can have ports in that spacer for meth nozzle?
Sounds like a great idea provided there is room.
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Sounds like a great idea provided there is room.
Trying to find out if it's possible. Surprised no one tried this possibility.
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No real IAT benefit for me but fattened the hell out of the top end mixture.

P'S. My IATs on the dyno were 101-139. I expected it to run hotter. KC/no HE/ trunk tank and meth
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Originally Posted by lm7
No real IAT benefit for me but fattened the hell out of the top end mixture.

P'S. My IATs on the dyno were 101-139. I expected it to run hotter. KC/no HE/ trunk tank and meth
Do you mean with the meth nozzle in the elbow, between the TB and SC?
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Originally Posted by lm7
Yes
Thanks.

Im looking into the possibility of a spacer between the Weistec SC and intercooler..for the meth nozzle (assuming there is room / not hit the hood). Lets see what happens.
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I'll be the guinea pig for putting the meth nozzle by the MAP sensor. We used one of those ports to read boost on the dyno. I will keep you informed.
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I'll be the guinea pig for putting the meth nozzle by the MAP sensor. We used one of those ports to read boost on the dyno. I will keep you informed.
There is not much air flow in that location. But good luck

I see some reduction in iat spraying pre blower in the supercharger inlet with dual nozzles and 50/50 meth
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I may try both: pre blower (inlet elbow) & by the map sensor with dual nozzles. Sounds like a plan!

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