Should I By This C63S with This History?
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Should I By This C63S with This History?
I found a used 2016 C63s for a great deal. On reviewing the Carfax, this is what was done at the 2000 mile service by Mercedes.
Console repaired
Door trim panel replaced/repaired
Information display unit replaced
Interior roof console replaced
Radio speaker(s) replaced
Window run channel replaced/repaired
Radio replaced
The car is accident free. Being sold by a reputable Audi dealer.
Is this a red flag, or would you still buy it?
Please advise!
Console repaired
Door trim panel replaced/repaired
Information display unit replaced
Interior roof console replaced
Radio speaker(s) replaced
Window run channel replaced/repaired
Radio replaced
The car is accident free. Being sold by a reputable Audi dealer.
Is this a red flag, or would you still buy it?
Please advise!
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We have nothing to go by. No total miles, deal (prices) or anything else. Car has manufacturer warranty and the replaced pieces look like electronic issue made them replace those when they replaced the radio and speakers.
I wouldn't be super worried but I suspect the previous owner ran like hell after having some major issues at 2000 miles. Not surprisingly they trade it in for maybe RS7? Who knows. I dont think Audi is any better reliability than Mercedes though. YMMV. Unless the deal is deep discount I would leave it alone go get a new car. Sometimes saving a few thousand isn't worth it. Just my opinion based on a disastrous 2014 Range Rover supercharged I bought, too many issues with a new car or repeat problems cut your losses and walk. I modified my RR which I had paid MSRP + $10K to get tried to like the junk. Couldn't at 6500 miles and 10 months I had had enough with that piece of junk. It was horrible. I worked a deal to trade it for a 2015.5 Autobiography and its been blissfully faultless. Infact its so radically different including fit and finish its hard to believe both came off the same assembly line. I took a bath on the junk 2014 rover especially considering the premium I had to pay to get it.
Lesson is its just a car. Watch out to inherit someone else's problems. If it were me I'd go get a new one. But again these problems don't say much unless they are recurring issues.
I wouldn't be super worried but I suspect the previous owner ran like hell after having some major issues at 2000 miles. Not surprisingly they trade it in for maybe RS7? Who knows. I dont think Audi is any better reliability than Mercedes though. YMMV. Unless the deal is deep discount I would leave it alone go get a new car. Sometimes saving a few thousand isn't worth it. Just my opinion based on a disastrous 2014 Range Rover supercharged I bought, too many issues with a new car or repeat problems cut your losses and walk. I modified my RR which I had paid MSRP + $10K to get tried to like the junk. Couldn't at 6500 miles and 10 months I had had enough with that piece of junk. It was horrible. I worked a deal to trade it for a 2015.5 Autobiography and its been blissfully faultless. Infact its so radically different including fit and finish its hard to believe both came off the same assembly line. I took a bath on the junk 2014 rover especially considering the premium I had to pay to get it.
Lesson is its just a car. Watch out to inherit someone else's problems. If it were me I'd go get a new one. But again these problems don't say much unless they are recurring issues.
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The new C Class hasn't been the most reliable generation. Most likely a byproduct of production being moved to United States (at least for North American models).
Short story is some of the repairs you listed seem to be for issues that are pretty common in this model. For example, the speakers is probably to repair buzzing, door trim is another issue as well.
Just how the current gen C Class is unfortunately.
Short story is some of the repairs you listed seem to be for issues that are pretty common in this model. For example, the speakers is probably to repair buzzing, door trim is another issue as well.
Just how the current gen C Class is unfortunately.
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Oh got it. KinJal is the OP not me.
But this speaker buzzing issue is on 120-135K range rovers too. Thankfully after my initial issue with stalling that took 3 days to fix, I don't seem to have any of these. But I only have 300 miles so doesn't say much.
But this speaker buzzing issue is on 120-135K range rovers too. Thankfully after my initial issue with stalling that took 3 days to fix, I don't seem to have any of these. But I only have 300 miles so doesn't say much.
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Thanks for the reply. It's fully loaded (msrp of $98,000), and selling for around $70,000. 3500 miles. No accidents on carfax. One owner for 4 months.
We have nothing to go by. No total miles, deal (prices) or anything else. Car has manufacturer warranty and the replaced pieces look like electronic issue made them replace those when they replaced the radio and speakers.
I wouldn't be super worried but I suspect the previous owner ran like hell after having some major issues at 2000 miles. Not surprisingly they trade it in for maybe RS7? Who knows. I dont think Audi is any better reliability than Mercedes though. YMMV. Unless the deal is deep discount I would leave it alone go get a new car. Sometimes saving a few thousand isn't worth it. Just my opinion based on a disastrous 2014 Range Rover supercharged I bought, too many issues with a new car or repeat problems cut your losses and walk. I modified my RR which I had paid MSRP + $10K to get tried to like the junk. Couldn't at 6500 miles and 10 months I had had enough with that piece of junk. It was horrible. I worked a deal to trade it for a 2015.5 Autobiography and its been blissfully faultless. Infact its so radically different including fit and finish its hard to believe both came off the same assembly line. I took a bath on the junk 2014 rover especially considering the premium I had to pay to get it.
Lesson is its just a car. Watch out to inherit someone else's problems. If it were me I'd go get a new one. But again these problems don't say much unless they are recurring issues.
I wouldn't be super worried but I suspect the previous owner ran like hell after having some major issues at 2000 miles. Not surprisingly they trade it in for maybe RS7? Who knows. I dont think Audi is any better reliability than Mercedes though. YMMV. Unless the deal is deep discount I would leave it alone go get a new car. Sometimes saving a few thousand isn't worth it. Just my opinion based on a disastrous 2014 Range Rover supercharged I bought, too many issues with a new car or repeat problems cut your losses and walk. I modified my RR which I had paid MSRP + $10K to get tried to like the junk. Couldn't at 6500 miles and 10 months I had had enough with that piece of junk. It was horrible. I worked a deal to trade it for a 2015.5 Autobiography and its been blissfully faultless. Infact its so radically different including fit and finish its hard to believe both came off the same assembly line. I took a bath on the junk 2014 rover especially considering the premium I had to pay to get it.
Lesson is its just a car. Watch out to inherit someone else's problems. If it were me I'd go get a new one. But again these problems don't say much unless they are recurring issues.
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2014 E63S; AMS 100 octane ecu tune; edok tcu tune; BB intakes; dyno tuned
The first owners loss is your gain
Sounds like a decent buy, I would consider this car strongly
Sounds like a decent buy, I would consider this car strongly
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I'm located in North Carolina. But I'm okay to buy cares from anywhere and have them shipped. Last two have been from California.
Do you have any suggestions on how to get a good deal?
Thanks! I read on a different thread that you helped another member save 10k off msrp
Do you have any suggestions on how to get a good deal?
Thanks! I read on a different thread that you helped another member save 10k off msrp
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Exactly what I was thinking.
Maybe Carfax has changed since the last time I did a search, but I don't remember service details coming up. Registration dates, state inspection dates, and other "public" data was on there, but nothing about when the oil was changed and so forth. Only service-related items that ever came up where collision/insurance claims.
The description here makes it sound like someone had their COMAND screen stolen and then had to fix all the associated damage.
Maybe Carfax has changed since the last time I did a search, but I don't remember service details coming up. Registration dates, state inspection dates, and other "public" data was on there, but nothing about when the oil was changed and so forth. Only service-related items that ever came up where collision/insurance claims.
The description here makes it sound like someone had their COMAND screen stolen and then had to fix all the associated damage.
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Deal breaker in your opinion? If it has been fixed by Mercedes, then it's no longer an issue functionally.
I buy all of my cars used to save on the initial depreciation, then I sell or trade them after 1-2 years. I feel like this car is marked down while being heavily optioned - so should retain value for trade in 1-2 years.
I buy all of my cars used to save on the initial depreciation, then I sell or trade them after 1-2 years. I feel like this car is marked down while being heavily optioned - so should retain value for trade in 1-2 years.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Maybe Carfax has changed since the last time I did a search, but I don't remember service details coming up. Registration dates, state inspection dates, and other "public" data was on there, but nothing about when the oil was changed and so forth. Only service-related items that ever came up where collision/insurance claims.
The description here makes it sound like someone had their COMAND screen stolen and then had to fix all the associated damage.
Maybe Carfax has changed since the last time I did a search, but I don't remember service details coming up. Registration dates, state inspection dates, and other "public" data was on there, but nothing about when the oil was changed and so forth. Only service-related items that ever came up where collision/insurance claims.
The description here makes it sound like someone had their COMAND screen stolen and then had to fix all the associated damage.
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Deal breaker in your opinion? If it has been fixed by Mercedes, then it's no longer an issue functionally.
I buy all of my cars used to save on the initial depreciation, then I sell or trade them after 1-2 years. I feel like this car is marked down while being heavily optioned - so should retain value for trade in 1-2 years.
I buy all of my cars used to save on the initial depreciation, then I sell or trade them after 1-2 years. I feel like this car is marked down while being heavily optioned - so should retain value for trade in 1-2 years.
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I found a used 2016 C63s for a great deal. On reviewing the Carfax, this is what was done at the 2000 mile service by Mercedes.
Console repaired
Door trim panel replaced/repaired
Information display unit replaced
Interior roof console replaced
Radio speaker(s) replaced
Window run channel replaced/repaired
Radio replaced
The car is accident free. Being sold by a reputable Audi dealer.
Is this a red flag, or would you still buy it?
Please advise!
Console repaired
Door trim panel replaced/repaired
Information display unit replaced
Interior roof console replaced
Radio speaker(s) replaced
Window run channel replaced/repaired
Radio replaced
The car is accident free. Being sold by a reputable Audi dealer.
Is this a red flag, or would you still buy it?
Please advise!
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The car doesn't have a sunroof.
I emailed the dealer to see if they have some insight on it. Not expecting on them knowing anything about it.
I emailed the dealer to see if they have some insight on it. Not expecting on them knowing anything about it.
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Dealer doesn't have info, except that the car looks flawless and everything works 100%
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RED FLAG. Typically, cars with so few miles get transferred between dealers of different brands so that the car can be "certified" pre-owned. The fact that the Audi dealership DID NOT give it to their MB sister company (many times, large dealerships have multiple brands) should be a big *** red flag for you. I.e. - the car was not "certifiable". Even if the Audi dealership does not have a sister MB dealer, dealers typically have an unwritten rule to sell low mileage cars to other dealerships (for a profit) as it's easier to sell an MB car from an MB dealership.
Further, for $70k, why not just get the car that you want? If this car was loaded at $98k (which, btw, is annoying that you didn't post all the details about it), it would likely contain options that you would not want. Again, for $70k, you can find a used, certified C63S with no stories.... all IMHO.... Good luck.
Further, for $70k, why not just get the car that you want? If this car was loaded at $98k (which, btw, is annoying that you didn't post all the details about it), it would likely contain options that you would not want. Again, for $70k, you can find a used, certified C63S with no stories.... all IMHO.... Good luck.
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Further, for $70k, why not just get the car that you want? If this car was loaded at $98k (which, btw, is annoying that you didn't post all the details about it), it would likely contain options that you would not want. Again, for $70k, you can find a used, certified C63S with no stories.... all IMHO.... Good luck.
Further, for $70k, why not just get the car that you want? If this car was loaded at $98k (which, btw, is annoying that you didn't post all the details about it), it would likely contain options that you would not want. Again, for $70k, you can find a used, certified C63S with no stories.... all IMHO.... Good luck.
That said, at 18K off MSRP with a mere 3500 miles am buying that car. And what about the car not being certifiable? Original manufacturer warranty is 4ys/50K miles so CPO doesn't even factor.
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I got 3 people (one is myself) a discount of 10-13k off of sticker for a brand new C63S. No miles, no damage, out the door.
Yes, 18k is a lot but, keep in mind that for 5k less you could get your own car, with your own options, with no mileage and never repaired for anything.
This car has ceramic brakes. Very nice option but, is it something that any of us or most of us would want? That alone is a 5k option so, if you didn't want or need the brakes you wouldn't be ahead of the game you would be paying a lot for an unnecessary option.
One last thing.. Until you see it in person you can't really tell if there are any scratches, dents, rim damage, tread wear, etc..
Yes, 18k is a lot but, keep in mind that for 5k less you could get your own car, with your own options, with no mileage and never repaired for anything.
This car has ceramic brakes. Very nice option but, is it something that any of us or most of us would want? That alone is a 5k option so, if you didn't want or need the brakes you wouldn't be ahead of the game you would be paying a lot for an unnecessary option.
One last thing.. Until you see it in person you can't really tell if there are any scratches, dents, rim damage, tread wear, etc..
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Any chance you can guide me in the direction of getting a 10k plus discount off msrp on a new 2016 c63s? Please let me know, either way!
I got 3 people (one is myself) a discount of 10-13k off of sticker for a brand new C63S. No miles, no damage, out the door.
Yes, 18k is a lot but, keep in mind that for 5k less you could get your own car, with your own options, with no mileage and never repaired for anything.
This car has ceramic brakes. Very nice option but, is it something that any of us or most of us would want? That alone is a 5k option so, if you didn't want or need the brakes you wouldn't be ahead of the game you would be paying a lot for an unnecessary option.
One last thing.. Until you see it in person you can't really tell if there are any scratches, dents, rim damage, tread wear, etc..
Yes, 18k is a lot but, keep in mind that for 5k less you could get your own car, with your own options, with no mileage and never repaired for anything.
This car has ceramic brakes. Very nice option but, is it something that any of us or most of us would want? That alone is a 5k option so, if you didn't want or need the brakes you wouldn't be ahead of the game you would be paying a lot for an unnecessary option.
One last thing.. Until you see it in person you can't really tell if there are any scratches, dents, rim damage, tread wear, etc..
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I got 3 people (one is myself) a discount of 10-13k off of sticker for a brand new C63S. No miles, no damage, out the door.
Yes, 18k is a lot but, keep in mind that for 5k less you could get your own car, with your own options, with no mileage and never repaired for anything.
This car has ceramic brakes. Very nice option but, is it something that any of us or most of us would want? That alone is a 5k option so, if you didn't want or need the brakes you wouldn't be ahead of the game you would be paying a lot for an unnecessary option.
One last thing.. Until you see it in person you can't really tell if there are any scratches, dents, rim damage, tread wear, etc..
Yes, 18k is a lot but, keep in mind that for 5k less you could get your own car, with your own options, with no mileage and never repaired for anything.
This car has ceramic brakes. Very nice option but, is it something that any of us or most of us would want? That alone is a 5k option so, if you didn't want or need the brakes you wouldn't be ahead of the game you would be paying a lot for an unnecessary option.
One last thing.. Until you see it in person you can't really tell if there are any scratches, dents, rim damage, tread wear, etc..
#25
You could order one custom and pick your options for 10k off list.
OR You could take one out of inventory and get 13k off.
Now that the 2017's are in production, the custom order is off the table and they aren't offering those incentives on the newer 2017's.
BUT, they would still be aggressive on the remaining Black 2016 in stock.
Comprende?
OR You could take one out of inventory and get 13k off.
Now that the 2017's are in production, the custom order is off the table and they aren't offering those incentives on the newer 2017's.
BUT, they would still be aggressive on the remaining Black 2016 in stock.
Comprende?