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Old 08-11-2016, 11:33 AM
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GLE 550e - plug-in Hybrid mileage

Haven't seen too many posts here on the GLE 550e, was just wondering how what types of MPG others are getting in the different modes:

I only have 132 miles on the vehicle and will post my findings as I know more.

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My 550e is on order, and has a "mid-september" build date. The salesman will let me know when they get an actual date.

There do not appear to be many 550e owners around, and glad to see someone else on the board. I'd love to know more about your 550e, color, options, etc., and of course how you like it!

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Ah, I see now in your signature line it is white with a black interior! Leather or MB tex?
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My 550e is on order, and has a "mid-september" build date. The salesman will let me know when they get an actual date.

There do not appear to be many 550e owners around, and glad to see someone else on the board. I'd love to know more about your 550e, color, options, etc., and of course how you like it!

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Ah, I see now in your signature line it is white with a black interior! Leather or MB tex?
I have the exterior sport package, lighting package, driver assist package.

The sport package gives the vehicle a very nice stance and picked it over the standard GLE 550e by looking at two identical vehicles side by side.

The GLE550e comes with many options standard, as the 550e is a step above the 350. Leather is standard and the detail is a lot nicer (dash pad stiching, etc.)

Originally wanted Lunar Blue, with a tan interior, similar to my old S class I traded in - However the White on Black (exterior sport is limited on interoir colors I am told) is a very nice look with the pano roof being black as well.

What sold me on the car (its my wifes) is that she can commute to work and back and not use any gas.

The Hybrid system is well sorted and is not very noticable between the transitions for electric to gas around town. Of couse you can hear the gas engine come on in Hybrid mode and when you exceed the demand where the electric power is not enough on its own, but it is seamless and works well.

There are a lot of things to get used to with this vehicle, but I figure after a while it will be like the back of my hand... I never owned a hybrid or a plug-in before this vehicle.

Being electric, it makes you want to conserve. It also has tons of power when needed which is very cool.
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I have the exterior sport package, lighting package, driver assist package.

The sport package gives the vehicle a very nice stance and picked it over the standard GLE 550e by looking at two identical vehicles side by side.

The GLE550e comes with many options standard, as the 550e is a step above the 350. Leather is standard and the detail is a lot nicer (dash pad stiching, etc.)

Originally wanted Lunar Blue, with a tan interior, similar to my old S class I traded in - However the White on Black (exterior sport is limited on interoir colors I am told) is a very nice look with the pano roof being black as well.

What sold me on the car (its my wifes) is that she can commute to work and back and not use any gas.

The Hybrid system is well sorted and is not very noticable between the transitions for electric to gas around town. Of couse you can hear the gas engine come on in Hybrid mode and when you exceed the demand where the electric power is not enough on its own, but it is seamless and works well.

There are a lot of things to get used to with this vehicle, but I figure after a while it will be like the back of my hand... I never owned a hybrid or a plug-in before this vehicle.

Being electric, it makes you want to conserve. It also has tons of power when needed which is very cool.
My commute is 3 miles each way, so for me, this would basically be an electric car. I forgot, the 550e does come with Premium 1 included, so yes of course you have leather seats! For 2017 (which is what I ordered) there have been a lot of changes, including removing some of the included features and adding them to packages, as well as removing some stand-alone option and also moving them to packages.

I have been driving a 2011 Toyota Highlander Hybird Limited for the last four years, so I know what you mean about wanting to conserve. It is like a challenge to myself to maximize the mileage! Unfortunately, the Toyota has limited electric abilities, and a top electric limit of 25 mph, as compared to 81 MPH for the 550e.
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I prefer AMG but as of yesterday I'm now interested in the 550e when I discovered 0% tax on hybrid vehicles for DC versus 8% tax on the GLE 63. Plus the $4k federal tax incentive.
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I prefer AMG but as of yesterday I'm now interested in the 550e when I discovered 0% tax on hybrid vehicles for DC versus 8% tax on the GLE 63. Plus the $4k federal tax incentive.
The AMG's are a phenominal car and the premium stuff that comes with them is so nice. However, the HP/Tq ratings for the GLE550e are not bad for a SUV.

436HP/479TQ and a 0-60 time of 5.3 sec. You get both performance and economy...
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The AMG's are a phenominal car and the premium stuff that comes with them is so nice. However, the HP/Tq ratings for the GLE550e are not bad for a SUV.

436HP/479TQ and a 0-60 time of 5.3 sec. You get both performance and economy...
I agree. The 550e uses the same biTurbo V6 used in the GLE400, and then adds the electric motor, which is attached directly to the transmission. The added weight of the PHEV Hybrid system is offset by the added power, and the increased fuel economy, which is better than the GLE400. The thing about electric vehicles is the instant torque available form the electric motors. It gets the vehicle moving quickly!
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Hey NorCal,

I know your 550e is relatively new. I was wondering if it has the enhanced route guidance for maximizing the electric usage of the car? I know the BMW x5 40e has this built into the nav. If it does have it, have you used it, and does it make a difference?
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So how does the 550e drive? I haven't found a lot of reviews for it
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Hey NorCal,

I know your 550e is relatively new. I was wondering if it has the enhanced route guidance for maximizing the electric usage of the car? I know the BMW x5 40e has this built into the nav. If it does have it, have you used it, and does it make a difference?
I'm not sure. I haven't checked all the things the nav can do, but I will look for it and post back. I can tell you that the electric only mode doesn't go far enough to make much of a difference. 18 miles up hill doesn't go very far. It will go down hill forever.

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So how does the 550e drive? I haven't found a lot of reviews for it
I love the way it drives. Decent handling and very comfortable. Lots to hi-tech features that I need to learn.

The wife can drive to and from work in e-mode 13 miles. You have to learn the way to drive these cars to max the e-mileage, so anticipating stops and riding the brake (regen brake system) helps with the efficiency. It takes a while to figure out because we are all so used to driving a gas motor. It's different for sure.

If you don't care about mileage (why get a e-car?) you can mash the loud pedal and it goes pretty darn good - 0-60 in 5.3 sec. The GLE400 is rated at 0-60 in 5.9 sec.

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I'm not sure. I haven't checked all the things the nav can do, but I will look for it and post back. I can tell you that the electric only mode doesn't go far enough to make much of a difference. 18 miles up hill doesn't go very far. It will go down hill forever.



I love the way it drives. Decent handling and very comfortable. Lots to hi-tech features that I need to learn.

The wife can drive to and from work in e-mode 13 miles. You have to learn the way to drive these cars to max the e-mileage, so anticipating stops and riding the brake (regen brake system) helps with the efficiency. It takes a while to figure out because we are all so used to driving a gas motor. It's different for sure.

If you don't care about mileage (why get a e-car?) you can mash the loud pedal and it goes pretty darn good - 0-60 in 5.3 sec. The GLE400 is rated at 0-60 in 5.9 sec.
I think I saw that if you plug in a destination, and leave the car in "hybrid" mode, it will apply the gas engine and electric systems as needed based on anticipated driving conditions. I want to say I think it said it looks ahead a few kilometers. To the best of my rcollection it even takes altitude and going up and down hills into account, i.e. it uses electric or electric assist to go up a hill, so it can maximize regen on the way down. In other words, getting to the top of a hill with a full battery is wasteful, since if the battery is full you cannot recoup the free energy provided by going downhill. I found that after I posed my question to you.

I test drove it three times and really enjoyed the ride, especially compared to my 2011 Toyota Highlander Hybrid Limited.

Like your wife, I have a short commute, which I anticipate will be in all electric, depending on ambient temps because I think the gas motor comes on in cold weather so it is warm when you need it. And you are right, why get the e-version. Certainly not for the extra boost to 60 mph. Get the AMG for that. Carrying around the electric battery and hybrid components adds a lot of unnecessary weight for the small boost to 60 mph.
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Originally Posted by Nor Cal SL55
I'm not sure. I haven't checked all the things the nav can do, but I will look for it and post back. I can tell you that the electric only mode doesn't go far enough to make much of a difference. 18 miles up hill doesn't go very far. It will go down hill forever.



I love the way it drives. Decent handling and very comfortable. Lots to hi-tech features that I need to learn.

The wife can drive to and from work in e-mode 13 miles. You have to learn the way to drive these cars to max the e-mileage, so anticipating stops and riding the brake (regen brake system) helps with the efficiency. It takes a while to figure out because we are all so used to driving a gas motor. It's different for sure.

If you don't care about mileage (why get a e-car?) you can mash the loud pedal and it goes pretty darn good - 0-60 in 5.3 sec. The GLE400 is rated at 0-60 in 5.9 sec.
I wonder if the 550e has that effortless and almost noiseless acceleration that the V6 bluetec has. The GLE400 sounds in youtube videos almost like my 2012 C350 which was fun to drive but when I pushed it, it often scared passengers with the sporty noise. People don't even notice when I push my bluetec because its so quiet and doesn't go over 4300 rpm's.
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I'm interested in the 550e but the electric drive is not the first reason. That's just a bonus feature to me. A GLE 63 is $35k more in base price plus 8% sales tax for my state.

The sales tax on the 550e is a sweet 0% in my state. So the difference in price for me is $47k minimum for the 63 and $54k for the 63s. I included the sales tax and the $4k Federal tax break. Saving $54k is my incentive and the gas savings comes in 2nd.

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I'm interested in the 550e but the electric drive is not the first reason. That's just a bonus feature to me. A GLE 63 is $35k more in base price plus 8% sales tax for my state.

The sales tax on the 550e is a sweet 0% in my state. So the difference in price for me is $47k minimum for the 63 and $54k for the 63s. I included the sales tax and the $4k Federal tax break. Saving $54k is my incentive and the gas savings comes in 2nd.
And don't forget the 4K Federal tax credit (not deduction, CREDIT) which you will get on your 2016 taxes. So you really save 58K. And quite frankly, EuroMotocars (the dealer I told you about) sell these for 9-10% below MSRP, and I know they will take off even more on one of the 2016's in their lot. I am thinking 11-12% off. Plus any fleet credit you qualify for (USAA, ABA, etc.) which is 2K for the 2016, and 500 for the 2017.

If you go that way, let me know, I'm just up the road in Baltimore and expect mine to be in around early October, and I 'd love to compare.
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I wonder if the 550e has that effortless and almost noiseless acceleration that the V6 bluetec has. The GLE400 sounds in youtube videos almost like my 2012 C350 which was fun to drive but when I pushed it, it often scared passengers with the sporty noise. People don't even notice when I push my bluetec because its so quiet and doesn't go over 4300 rpm's.
You are feeling the low end torque of the deisel at the lower RPM's. It doesn't scream like a gas motor.
The GLE550e is not noisey when pushed hard and has good acceleration. It's the acceleration that I feel the most in the GLE550e.
Having said this, I am used to the SL55 which has more noise and acceleration than the GLE550e.
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You are feeling the low end torque of the deisel at the lower RPM's. It doesn't scream like a gas motor.
The GLE550e is not noisey when pushed hard and has good acceleration. It's the acceleration that I feel the most in the GLE550e.
Having said this, I am used to the SL55 which has more noise and acceleration than the GLE550e.
Sounds good, thanks for the info!
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Originally Posted by Nor Cal SL55
It doesn't scream like a gas motor.
The GLE550e is not noisey when pushed hard and has good acceleration.
LOL I'll prolly be a guy putting a loud aftermarket exhaust on his Hybrid

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LOL I'll prolly be a guy putting a loud aftermarket exhaust on his Hybrid
and make a visit here - http://www.raceiq.us/iq/

I bet Anthony Lawshee can get you better mileage out of a plug-in hybrid while you at it...

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Nor Cal (or anyone else),

Any updates on mileasge experience? Curious as to the max range?
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Well... some basic info.. more will be revealed

Basic 2 pg'r overview on "eMobility" ...

On the 550e... all-in-all some of the #'s floated around are like 34mpg city and up to 48-50mpg highway in Predictive Operation.. we will see what we will see..
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Basic 2 pg'r overview on "eMobility" ...

On the 550e... all-in-all some of the #'s floated around are like 34mpg city and up to 48-50mpg highway in Predictive Operation.. we will see what we will see..
That is why I asked for real world experiences. The only person on the forum who owns a GLE 550e seems to be NorCal. It's a shame, because apparently the x5 40e sells very well for BNMW, and there are owners forums, and even a facebook group. I think the production numbers are low, and the sales are even lower (there are still 20 2016 models showing up on the east coast and they don't seem to be selling as I have seen them there for months.)
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Besides going into a dealer, where online can I obtain more information on these PIHybid's ? The syracuse and rochester NY dealers have not sold them and my salesguy is basically clueless. Will be a couple months before I'm back in Atlanta but would like to know a little something more than the nothing provided on MBUSA website.

I have other benz's but my personal daily driver that I absolutely love is the Highlander Hybrid, been driving these models for the past 8 years. I've been considering the new GLE Coupe, but I might consider the Hybrid GLE instead.
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Besides going into a dealer, where online can I obtain more information on these PIHybid's ? The syracuse and rochester NY dealers have not sold them and my salesguy is basically clueless. Will be a couple months before I'm back in Atlanta but would like to know a little something more than the nothing provided on MBUSA website.

I have other benz's but my personal daily driver that I absolutely love is the Highlander Hybrid, been driving these models for the past 8 years. I've been considering the new GLE Coupe, but I might consider the Hybrid GLE instead.
I am surprised that the Upstate dealers don't know anything about these cars or even carry them. I know Helms Brothers in Bayside (which I have no idea where that is - I'm not from NY) had a couple of 2016 over the summer when I was shopping.

As for more info, there are a couple of youtube videos. The most in depth is by Motoman here:

I also currently drive a HiHy. Fed up with the inability to get into Hybrid mode in the winter here in Maryland. It's just too cold, given my short commute, and the fact the the engine has to reach operating temps before it will use the hybrid system properly. Mileage in the winter drops precipitously. Also hate that the touch screen, which is otherwise great, is locked out while driving. And the ride is just not as nice as the Mercedes, at least to me. I love all the tech on the Mercedes. Supposed to get my GLE 550e next weekend, but I am not sure it will be shipped as fast as the dealer claims.
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Well, the dealers up here know about them inasmuch what you read in the brochure, but not really know enough to answer my questions. Thanks for the reference video. Are there any provision for any spare or doughnut type tire in the GLE 500e? Will be a deal breaker for me, as we have a couple homes way off the beaten trails and I travel alot at night.
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Well, the dealers up here know about them inasmuch what you read in the brochure, but not really know enough to answer my questions. Thanks for the reference video. Are there any provision for any spare or doughnut type tire in the GLE 500e? Will be a deal breaker for me, as we have a couple homes way off the beaten trails and I travel alot at night.
The 550e does not have a spare. This is due to the size of the hybrid battery. They do have the extended mobility tires which are a type of run flat. I know Mercedes sells compact inflatable spares for other vehicles. I suppose you could use one for the 550e if the wheel size was correct when inflated. I never go anywhere isolated and I have AAA so not a huge concern for me...


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