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Old 08-25-2016, 08:56 AM
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Best tires for E63-S?

Just wanted some opinions on good tires for the E63-S. I currently have Pirelli PZero and they are not cutting it. Need to replace them asap. It seems like they don't make Michelin PSS in the size I need, that is my tire of choice.
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I'm curious why you don't like the PZeros? My E63 came with new Pzeros and I've been impressed with them so far.
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Conti DW, or DWS for all-season. When it's dry, PSS might be doing better. When wet, DW is still the king.
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I have the P Zeroes. Great tire IMO. Yes, the PSS is better.
You could always go with the PSS with a 295 rear. The size difference won't make much of a difference, and though you're not supposed to mount them on a 9.5" rim, there are a few who have done so without issue.
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Michelin PSS is a great choice.
265 front and 295 rear, fits, no issues
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Whatever you choose, pay attention to...

the installation!!

I just replaced mine this week, and when I picked the car up, they had mounted both rear tires on the front wheels, and vice versa. Both front wheels/rear tires were mounted on the passenger side, rear wheels/front tires on the driver's side! I noticed it from 10 feet away, and had to point out to the service mgr that the wheels are staggered, and the tires were mis-mounted.

This occurred at a Porsche dealership service dept, where I'm sure staggered wheels aren't uncommon.
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Wow, sounds like the installer must have been high on crack cocaine or something, that is just crazy, even a amateur would know the bigger tires go on the rear wheels and the more narrow on the front, thats just crazy, I woulda been really pissed and insisted on at least a voucher for a free oil change or something as compensation for your troubles.
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the installation!!

I just replaced mine this week, and when I picked the car up, they had mounted both rear tires on the front wheels, and vice versa. Both front wheels/rear tires were mounted on the passenger side, rear wheels/front tires on the driver's side! I noticed it from 10 feet away, and had to point out to the service mgr that the wheels are staggered, and the tires were mis-mounted.

This occurred at a Porsche dealership service dept, where I'm sure staggered wheels aren't uncommon.
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Wow, sounds like the installer must have been high on crack cocaine or something, that is just crazy, even a amateur would know the bigger tires go on the rear wheels and the more narrow on the front, thats just crazy, I woulda been really pissed and insisted on at least a voucher for a free oil change or something as compensation for your troubles.
Exactly. Whoa, that was crazy! Hopefully the direction or inside/outside of the tires are all correct. Man, that's just some unnecessary stretching of the tire beads to dismount and mount them. Of course, not to mention the removal and replacement of balancing weighs...hmm, hopefully they were correctly balanced, too.

BTW, I hope you had loosened and re-torqued all your wheel bolts before leaving. If not, you better do that now. Hopefully some bolts are not so tight to warp the rotor.

So no rubbing with the larger rims up front?
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I wanted the Michelins but wasn't willing to take the risk with the incorrect rear tire size.

I went with Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position XL
I'm pleased with the performance of these tires. Very grippy and quite
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I did the same thing. People claim it works, I just worried knowing my luck if the rear diff went or something they would probably try to void my warranty or something saying I'd put 295's on the rear when it called for 285's as a excuse. I've had good luck with the pole positions, I'm on my second set and they are about 1/2 worn. Probably gonna try the either the conti dw or the w06 next time around for a change. The pole positions do hook up nice like you said. They seem to be good for around 12k miles or so with the way I drive.
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I wanted the Michelins but wasn't willing to take the risk with the incorrect rear tire size.

I went with Bridgestone Potenza S-04 Pole Position XL
I'm pleased with the performance of these tires. Very grippy and quite
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Originally Posted by YellowJacket
I'm curious why you don't like the PZeros? My E63 came with new Pzeros and I've been impressed with them so far.
Now, I might be a bit bias because I've always has Michelin PSS on my cars. The PZERO to me feels a bit more rough, I feel the road more thru the car (not in a good way). My car is lowered, but I've had all my cars lowered with PSS and I've been fine. It could also be be the AWD system compared to the rear wheel drive I'm used to. I drive my cars hard and the PSS give a bit of a warning before breaking loose, you know its coming. With the PZERO I haven't felt that. Now keep in mind this is my personal opinion, I am no professional. I am not comfortable with running a larger size for the PSS. I believe I am going with the Continental DW.

Now I'm off to cars and coffee!
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Originally Posted by otakki
So no rubbing with the larger rims up front?
No rubbing, the car wasn't driven. I noticed it before I left the dealer.
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I've had 295/30R19 Yokohama AD08R's on my rear wheels for a few days and they are way better than the Pirelli P-zeros I had before. The grip is substantially improved. I've not had Michelin PSS so can't compare to those unfortunately.
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Just got Michelin pss 255 and 285. Great tires. What I was looking for after hankook evo. Very soft and good grip.
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The stock Pzeros of 255 and 285 have mismatched rolling diameters from the factory.

The rolling diameter of a 295/30/19 matches 255/35/19.

I am running PSS on a 10" rim. Way better tire than the PZero.
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Originally Posted by benyl
The stock Pzeros of 255 and 285 have mismatched rolling diameters from the factory.

The rolling diameter of a 295/30/19 matches 255/35/19.

I am running PSS on a 10" rim. Way better tire than the PZero.
You want to say, that on stock forged wheels mercedes did wrong tires and we should use 255 front and 295 rear on 9.5 inch
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Originally Posted by dav461
You want to say, that on stock forged wheels mercedes did wrong tires and we should use 255 front and 295 rear on 9.5 inch
I guess I should have added more context.

255/35/19 = 799.15 revolutions per mile
285/30/19 = 808.32 revolutions per mile
295/30/19 = 800.97 revolutions per mile

What I am saying is that the 255 / 295 combination is better matched than the 255 / 285 combo that comes from the factory if you are worried about warranty and tire sizes.

AWD systems usually have some "give" allowed. This is evidence that the 4Matic in the W212 allows for different tire sizes as the factory tires aren't the same rolling diameter.
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soft tires 295/30 on 9.5 " wheel would be wide. Dont u think so?
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Would like to see some pictures of the upsized 295/30/19 Mich. PSS on the rear on our OEM 9.5" width rims. I've been contemplating running 265/35/19-F and 295/30/19-R when I have to put new tires on.

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i drive them all, fast and hard
running 295 pss in rears for 23000 miles no issues thus far....as i ve stated in the 10 other threads on this topic
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Originally Posted by dav461
Just got Michelin pss 255 and 285. Great tires. What I was looking for after hankook evo. Very soft and good grip.
Are you sure you mean 285? I didn't think those were available, which is why everyone here is talking about 295s for the rear.
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running 295 pss in rears for 23000 miles no issues thus far....as i ve stated in the 10 other threads on this topic
stock 255 in the front? Have you noticed any additional understeer with the wider rears?
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Originally Posted by CliffJumper
Are you sure you mean 285? I didn't think those were available, which is why everyone here is talking about 295s for the rear.
Yes , it's available in 285/30/19 non run flat.
I wanted a bit wider, but I thought 9.5 inch on 295 is a bit wide
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Originally Posted by dav461
Yes , it's available in 285/30/19 non run flat.
I wanted a bit wider, but I thought 9.5 inch on 295 is a bit wide

not in XL load capacity, and our cars require XL given its weight/load


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