gaspam

anybody ever hear of poseidon tuning? looks like another GAD type shop over in germany that has come out with a 1020 bhp / 1033 trq kit (about 800-850 to wheels)

i emailed them about the kit just to see what they say

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/go...gallery_moreon

Georgee6086

I like the carbon exhaust tips

iownedu

Looks to me like they used Renntech carbon parts and AMS speed parts.

Pumpkinate

Nice find, let us know what they say in their reply.

gaspam

heard back from them... cool guys but pricey as expected (about 40K for what amounts to around weistec W4 on race gas power)...one thing i noticed is for the turbo upgrade they do need the TCU as well as ecu. Seems like the tuners in germany do have a way to tune the TCU and raise trq limits (i remember reading gad supposedly did it on vasily's car too)

For this car we are currently offering the following performance improvements.

We offer pure software tunings / remapping’s, without the need to modify the hardware.
The tuning to 500 kW (680 HP) and 1000 Nm* costs 2800 euro, incl. 19% VAT. (2352,94 euro net)

Our software tuning is very hard to detect, even for the official Mercedes-Benz dealer.
To be absolutely sure, we recommend to buy the second ECU. Your original ECU will remain untouched.
Just use the second ECU with the tuning, and in case you need to take the car to Mercedes/AMG just put in the original ECU.
In case Mercedes does a software upgrade of the ECU, the tuning will also be lost. For a small service fee, we can restore the tuning.
You do not have to buy the whole tuning again. But the second ECU would also prevent that.
The price for the second ECU is 1200 euro, incl. 19% VAT. (1008,40 euro net)
However, this is only recommended for the pure software tuning.

The tuning to 530 kW (721 HP) and 1000 Nm* requires additional hardware modifications in combination with the software tuning.
For this you would need a new catless downpipe and connection piece up to the center muffler.
The price for the hardware parts is 2200 euros.
Total price for this tuning is 5000 euro, incl. 19% VAT. (4201,68 euro net)
This requires the installation of the hardware.

The tuning to 551 kW (749 HP) and 1000 Nm* also requires additional hardware modifications in combination with the software tuning.
For this you would need a new catless downpipe and connection piece up to the center muffler.
You would also need an improved charge air cooling system.
Total price for this tuning is 12000 euro, incl. 19% VAT. (10084,03 euro net)

And then there is the tuning to 627 kW (853 HP) and 1300 Nm*. (* Torque is electronically limited)
With this the car has an acceleration from 0 to 100 in 2,9 sec. Vmax is 345 km/h (limited).
This tuning requires various hardware modifications in combination with the software update of the ECU and transmission control unit.
This includes the exhaust system, new turbochargers, charge air cooling, limited slip differentials and various small parts like spark plugs and liquids.
This tuning is listed at about 38000 euro, incl. 19% VAT. (31932,77 euro net)
The exact price depends on the specific vehicle. We would need the vehicle identification number for a specific offer.
The tuning would take 8 to 10 days in our shop.
In your case we would need to find a way to ship the parts to you. You would need to find a shop to install the parts.
But you would still need to send us the engine control unit, the transmission control unit, the turbo chargers, and the differential (or both if this is a 4matic).

All tunings already include the removal of the Vmax limitation.
Start-Stop Mode can also be deactivated for free on request with every tuning.

If you are interested in any of our tunings, it is best to send us your vehicle identification number.
We need to know exactly what car we are talking about.

Zod

yup the big names in the Germany all play with the TCU when you go turbo and above....funny as some claimed not duable from the USA side... they could have just said, we don't know how, or have not gotten our hands on the tech/software to do it

I got quotes on parts from 2 tuners over there. both claim TCU needed or it will not run right for turbo upgrades, some of them even do it with just a tune.

efiftyfizzle

Anyway we can send our TCU to them to just remove the stock limiters so
our cars with simple bolt ons and a tune will benefit?

Zod

For my region they offered this service, but not sure if you need their ECU tune as well or not. Referring to GAD here. Give them a try and let us know

This is what they told me and they were spessifc TCU/ ECU remapping

Stage 2 PLUS / 720HP

· Sport air filters
· Optimization of the charge air temperature by changing to the low-temperature cooling and power-amplified low temperature water pump
· Downpipe incl. Sport Kats with less backpressure
· Backpressure valve Optimized exhaust system V2A Diameter 76mm
· Slight increase in boost pressure
· Transmission gain GAD SPEEDSHIFT MCT 7
· Optimization and adaptation of the characteristic maps for fuel and ignition in the Motronik
· Adapting the transmission software
· V-MAX release

gaspam

i dont think GAD wants to deal with north america as i have emailed them a few times in the past with no luck

Zod

They have a branch in the UK, you tried them?

Need to go through one of their dealers

gaspam

are you sure that's the same GAD that did vasily's car as there are 2 different GAD's (they are not related).... gad tuning, which is in england (they partner with wesitec) and GAD motors which is in germany with partners in russia and UAE

this is the company based out of UK that partners with weistec

http://www.gadtuning.co.uk/mercedes-e63-amg-remapping/

this is the GAD from germany that makes its own turbo kit

http://gad-motors.de/en/home

Zod

your right! lol, I just assumed they were the same by name!
I dealt with the UAE branch.... they have a twin turbo SLS . Sick is what these guys can do (db's car, he has quite a few sick ones from GAD)

gaspam

LOL i did the same thing when i originally seeked out GAD and got nowhere with the germany company and contacted the UK one thinking it was the same company and realized it wasnt when they told me they could get me a wesitec turbo kit

and yeah the UAE one is the germany company, the bad *** one that transplanted AWD and M157 motor into a C63, did vasilys car and the sls

Zod

indeed old, but just goes to show what these guys can do (this is taking a turbo S from a dig...that is like the cream of the cream)

this is a new one, turn sound up , at 3min 50 you get a shot of the engine

BlownS4

Gaspam,
Not to thread jack but do you know how much power you are making? I'm considering doing almost the exact same combo as you with renntech tune and speed driven downpipes maybe the upd filter Albeit on a 550 m278 they are claiming 540hp but 705ft torque on tune only and that is nearing stock 63 territory

gaspam

600 awhp/ 700 trq dyno'd at renntech's shop.... they said it was one of the strongest tune/dp cars they have had on their dyno.... their dyno reads a little low from what i have seen as they had a stock e63s dyno same day that made only 520 awhp and i have seen 540 from other dynos on stock e63s

BlownS4

do you happen to know what % drive train loss they are using in calculating wheel HP? sick numbers.

BlownV8

Wheel hp does not assume drive train loss. It's the power that makes it to the ground. You must mean what crank HP?

gaspam

those are my whp numbers... chp are 8- 20 % higher depending on who you ask

this was mine on same day with a stock e63s