SL/R230: Clunking and "cracking" noisy roof fixed !
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Clunking and "cracking" noisy roof fixed !
Had some clunks and "crack" noises coming from the SL roof recently particularly bad when the car is cold - and thought it was going to be the leaking front lock and low hydraulic fluid issues mentioned in other threads.
But, good news, it wasnt.
I applied the special mercedes lubricant to the roof seals and all the noise was gone !!! I guess what was happening is the roof seals were getting stuck to the body and when they moved as I went over a bump the noise of them unsticking was amplified through the roof.
The special lubricant comes in a 1 oz bottle and that is enough for 10 roofs !!
You clean the seals that touch the bodywork with water, let them dry and then apply very small amounts of the lubricant and wait 20 mins !
Lubricant part number A000 989 36 60 cost approx £30 in UK
(so if theres anyone near Ascot in UK with a noisy SL or SLK roof, pop round and we'll sort yours out as I have lots of the stuff left)
Richard
But, good news, it wasnt.
I applied the special mercedes lubricant to the roof seals and all the noise was gone !!! I guess what was happening is the roof seals were getting stuck to the body and when they moved as I went over a bump the noise of them unsticking was amplified through the roof.
The special lubricant comes in a 1 oz bottle and that is enough for 10 roofs !!
You clean the seals that touch the bodywork with water, let them dry and then apply very small amounts of the lubricant and wait 20 mins !
Lubricant part number A000 989 36 60 cost approx £30 in UK
(so if theres anyone near Ascot in UK with a noisy SL or SLK roof, pop round and we'll sort yours out as I have lots of the stuff left)
Richard
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How do you get at the seals to apply it?? Stop it in mid closing or when it's stored in the trunk?? New to the SL so not real familiar with how to get at this....
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Thanks, is there even a seal on the roof side?? I put the top down yesterday to get a look at it and it seems most of the seal is on the windshield portion, so just having it down should be enough....maybe??? The seal on the windshield is pretty dried out, guess I'll be swinging by and picking up some of this stuff, unless somebody jumps in and tells me it's nothing more than vaseline (or ??) with a 3 point star on it....
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Definetly not vaseline :-) I did mine with the engine on and the roof half open. I'd suggest that you support the roof somehow though, I was being very careful, but the roof is heavy and you don't want it crushing you or getting your arm caught in the sizzor mechanism.....
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Definetly not vaseline :-) I did mine with the engine on and the roof half open. I'd suggest that you support the roof somehow though, I was being very careful, but the roof is heavy and you don't want it crushing you or getting your arm caught in the sizzor mechanism.....
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Ive had mine done twice at mercedes and it worked for about 1 month then all went noisy again. Ive been ignoring it BUT now I have the prt number for the lube I'm on it!
What would be great is if we could get an image with specific points to apply the lube to so that everyone with the problem can solve it without having to pay the £200+ per visit Ive done to have it solved
What would be great is if we could get an image with specific points to apply the lube to so that everyone with the problem can solve it without having to pay the £200+ per visit Ive done to have it solved
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Great idea Chris.
We all know that quality silicone lubricant for seals and rubber is the answer but do we have to apply it randomly? It's a messy proposition if you just smear it all over the place. And where do we apply the lubricant when it comes to the roof mechanism ?
This could very well be one of the most useful topics ever. So please join in.
Hate to pay the dealer frequently for something that we can easily rectify our selfs and may be even do better job at that.
Cheers.
We all know that quality silicone lubricant for seals and rubber is the answer but do we have to apply it randomly? It's a messy proposition if you just smear it all over the place. And where do we apply the lubricant when it comes to the roof mechanism ?
This could very well be one of the most useful topics ever. So please join in.
Hate to pay the dealer frequently for something that we can easily rectify our selfs and may be even do better job at that.
Cheers.
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Most informative Lee. Thank you for sharing.
Do we also need to lubricate the roof and trunk hinges and hardware ?
If affirmative than where and how and what to use ?
Do we also need to lubricate the roof and trunk hinges and hardware ?
If affirmative than where and how and what to use ?
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Hey guys maybe you can help me. I have this loud tapping noise coming from the passenger rear area. It sounds like metal tapping on metal. I tried stuffing padding every wear with multiple test drives.
I can't figure it out or where it is actually coming from. I even had my brother drive while I stuck my head back there trying to locate the source of the noise.
anyone had this same problem?
I can't figure it out or where it is actually coming from. I even had my brother drive while I stuck my head back there trying to locate the source of the noise.
anyone had this same problem?
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Could be baffle plate in fuel tank
Hey guys maybe you can help me. I have this loud tapping noise coming from the passenger rear area. It sounds like metal tapping on metal. I tried stuffing padding every wear with multiple test drives.
I can't figure it out or where it is actually coming from. I even had my brother drive while I stuck my head back there trying to locate the source of the noise.
anyone had this same problem?
I can't figure it out or where it is actually coming from. I even had my brother drive while I stuck my head back there trying to locate the source of the noise.
anyone had this same problem?
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In addition to the rubber roof seals, there are points in the mechanism where hard plastic stops come up against metal (two on each side) plus plastic wedges that are against metal (one on each side by the sides of the window) when the top is closed. Theses can also be a source of noise after a few years. Cleaning these contact points and lightly lubricating them with silicone made a difference in my car. Again, you need to stop your roof halfway to locate and attend to these.
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Hi Richard,
Thats a very generous offer.
As a newbie looking to buy a friends 2003 SL55AMG this could be very useful for me. The reason is that the car (albeit has a full MB service history) has been used very little over the last two years and has been parked outside. As a result the seals may need re lubricating to bring them back to new. The car has various new vario roof seals fitted by MB in May 2010 but because its been a little weather beaten I think softening up the rubber could be a good idea?
Any thoughts would be really appreciated.
Pete
Thats a very generous offer.
As a newbie looking to buy a friends 2003 SL55AMG this could be very useful for me. The reason is that the car (albeit has a full MB service history) has been used very little over the last two years and has been parked outside. As a result the seals may need re lubricating to bring them back to new. The car has various new vario roof seals fitted by MB in May 2010 but because its been a little weather beaten I think softening up the rubber could be a good idea?
Any thoughts would be really appreciated.
Pete
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Mold Lubricant Fluid 000-989-36-60
I have a Genuine Mercedes Benz Mold Lubricant Fluid 000-989-36-60 (30ml bottle) on eBay for $30 each (Auction #161805454436). Or, if you like, you can email me at smhc@charter.net.
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I swear by, "GUMMI Pfledge Stift"...twice a year after soft-cleaning with a damp cloth...then, cycle the top a couple of times...you'll notice there is no build-up, speeds-up mechanisms, does NOT attract dirt particles...I purchase it in bulk as shelf life is long.
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That's what I use...in fact, purchased a multi-pack of it when I owned my SLKs! It's the best & HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!! I suspect the same type of material is used at the dealerships; marketed under a different name with the M-B emblem...
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the trick is...damp microfiber clean all rubber PRIOR to application. You WILL have residual appearing upon your windows...simply damn microfiber cloth them off (am sure you're like all of us by now and have a stock of clean ones in your trunk.) You will need to exercise the roof a few times (so keep the engine running as to not run out your consumer battery, though, exercising that isn't such a bad idea either.) WATCH-OUT! the mechanisms run very quickly and don't want to hear you were in the ER just to silence your roof!!!
As for all of the other hinges...a very high grade silicon, sparingly used while manipulating the pressure points; i.e., the hood.
You can buy Gummy Pfledge on eBay at a discounted rate per # of bottles/they appear to last a long time depending where you store them.
Best of luck!!
As for all of the other hinges...a very high grade silicon, sparingly used while manipulating the pressure points; i.e., the hood.
You can buy Gummy Pfledge on eBay at a discounted rate per # of bottles/they appear to last a long time depending where you store them.
Best of luck!!