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[hlbmd]

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[AMG_Power]

congratulations! Classic combo, when do u expect to take delivery?

[Swisshon]

I have also ordered mine, fully loaded. You are lucky in the Unites States: the price of my car (after discount) is the equivalent of 180'000 dollar here in Switzerland

[- Guilty -]

Originally Posted by Swisshon

I have also ordered mine, fully loaded. You are lucky in the Unites States: the price of my car (after discount) is the equivalent of 180'000 dollar here in Switzerland

Why didn't you order it in the US and then import it to Switzerland ? Wouldn't it be much cheaper ?

[Swisshon]

Originally Posted by - Guilty -

Why didn't you order it in the US and then import it to Switzerland ? Wouldn't it be much cheaper ?

Many reasons:

1) no warranty
2) no services, including fluid and spare parts, paid until 100k km
3) radio on different frequencies
4) unusable satnav
5) tach in miles
6) less powerful engine: our premium gas is 100 octanes
7) horrendous residual value

[- Guilty -]

Originally Posted by Swisshon

Many reasons:

1) no warranty
2) no services, including fluid and spare parts, paid until 100k km
3) radio on different frequencies
4) unusable satnav
5) tach in miles
6) less powerful engine: our premium gas is 100 octanes
7) horrendous residual value

Thanks for the info, but what do you mean by less powerful engine, is that really true ?

[Florida Joe]

I ordered Iridium siver also.

Gray interior

Magic sky roof and pkgs 1 & 2

Did not order ABC.

Had a 2003 SL and though I think it looked better than the 2013 from an exterior point of view, it was a great car and was happy with it.

[Swisshon]

Originally Posted by - Guilty -

Thanks for the info, but what do you mean by less powerful engine, is that really true ?

In Europe there are two kinds of gas:

1) Super, having 95 octanes
2) Super plus, having 98 or 100 octanes, depending on the brand.

In other words the lowest type of gas in Europe has more octane than the best one available in the US. The price is much higher, roughly 11 dollars per gallon.

For this reason cars in Europe have different software than in the US, and slighty more horsepower. In the case of the 2013 SL 500 it is 435 as opposed to 429

[- Guilty -]

Originally Posted by Swisshon

In Europe there are two kinds of gas:

1) Super, having 95 octanes
2) Super plus, having 98 or 100 octanes, depending on the brand.

In other words the lowest type of gas in Europe has more octane than the best one available in the US. The price is much higher, roughly 11 dollars per gallon.

For this reason cars in Europe have different software than in the US, and slighty more horsepower. In the case of the 2013 SL 500 it is 435 as opposed to 429

It's just that in the US, they don't measure octane in the same ways than the rest of the world.

( RON Octane Rating x 0.95 = AKI Octane Rating )
98 RON Octane x 0.95 = 93.1 AKI Octane (US measure)
100 RON Octane x 0.95 = 95 AKI Octane (US measure)


So basically, we have the same gas, it's just that they don't call it the same.

[Swisshon]

Originally Posted by - Guilty -

It's just that in the US, they don't measure octane in the same ways than the rest of the world.

( RON Octane Rating x 0.95 = AKI Octane Rating )
98 RON Octane x 0.95 = 93.1 AKI Octane (US measure)
100 RON Octane x 0.95 = 95 AKI Octane (US measure)


So basically, we have the same gas, it's just that they don't call it the same.

Thank you for the explanation. There must be another reason then, because ALL cars in the US have a few hp less than in Europe. maybe cars in the US must be able to function with gas having less than 93.1 AKI Octane, which is the prescribed minimum for the SL?

[- Guilty -]

Well I have no idea then. Hopefully someone who is more familiar with this will answer. It's weird though. I thought that as long it's X550 or X500 or even X600, it will have the same HP.. no matter if the car is a us model or no..

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by Swisshon

Thank you for the explanation. There must be another reason then, because ALL cars in the US have a few hp less than in Europe. maybe cars in the US must be able to function with gas having less than 93.1 AKI Octane, which is the prescribed minimum for the SL?

I suspect this has more to do with the standard of measure for determining horsepower than octane of the gas in the two regions.

[Swisshon]

Originally Posted by BigHat

Could it be we measure hp at the wheel and Europe at the crank?

Apparently it has to fo with the fact that your cars must be able to use lower octane gasoline than in Europe. My current SL AMG 63 MUST use 98 octanes, which is the equivalent of your 93. My beweekly trips to California tell me you can find much lower octane gas at the pump.

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by Florida Joe

I ordered Iridium siver also.

Gray interior

Magic sky roof and pkgs 1 & 2

Did not order ABC.

Had a 2003 SL and though I think it looked better than the 2013 from an exterior point of view, it was a great car and was happy with it.

How much does the Magic Sky roof option run?

[Florida Joe]

Magic Sky is $2,500.

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by Florida Joe

Magic Sky is $2,500.

Thanks Joe. Not bad.

[jstefanop]

Originally Posted by Swisshon

Apparently it has to fo with the fact that your cars must be able to use lower octane gasoline than in Europe. My current SL AMG 63 MUST use 98 octanes, which is the equivalent of your 93. My beweekly trips to California tell me you can find much lower octane gas at the pump.

Lower HP in the US usually has to do with Emission control devices installed in US cars which are not required in Europe.

[Germancar1]

The hp difference is because in Europe they go by DIN and we use SAE standards, same power. There is no actual difference, just in the way it is calculated. Has nothing to do with gasoline or emissions. I thought everyone knew this.

If you take the 435hp DIN and divide it by 1.0139 it will give you the SAE rating = 429hp. Nothing to with any actual difference in raw power. Had to look up the actual SAE value.


M

[Swisshon]

Originally Posted by Germancar1

The hp difference is because in Europe they go by DIN and we use SAE standards, same power. There is no actually difference, just in the way it is calculated. Has nothing to do with gasoline or emissions. I thought everyone knew this. Its simply the measurement of HP not any actual difference.


M

Ok thank you, good to know

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by BigHat

I suspect this has more to do with the standard of measure for determining horsepower than octane of the gas in the two regions.

Thanks Germancar1. I agree.

[Soly20]

SL 550 where I am is $220K
Ordered my SL 350 for $180K.

I want to move to the USA! hehe