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Official New SL55 Details Released
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Five more pics-
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Already posted in http://forums.mbworld.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=137175
but thanks for posting the pics. Not entirely sure about that new carbon fibre interior .. I want to see it in person. |
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if the cf interior and lsd is available in the clk63 then we're onto something
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Does the 2007 SL have the brake-by-wire or did MB get rid of it in favor of conventional brakes?
Also does anyone know if the engine is the new 5.5 liter engine that is in the S550 or is it the old 5.0 liter engine that AMG bored out to increase displacement to 5.5 liters? |
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those 14 spoke rims rule. do SL rims fit on the e55 (same offset?)?
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Does anyone know why AMG replace the Front eight-piston callipers with six-piston callipers? Does the Six work more efficient than eight?
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Who knows how the 2003-2005 SL55 AMG button speedshifters can be replaced with the new 2006 paddle-style speedshifters. From pics on the AMG MB-USA website it seems that the paddles are just a direct replacement. Any insights?
It truly would be cool to be able to swap them out. Of course, MB would probably design it internally for a customer to have to buy the whole steering wheel for this replacement option at some inflated price.
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Sigh. Will they ever get rid of the speed limiter?
Delimited my 2003, I get tired of thinking about doing this again. Why sell a car like this and cripple it? MB really needs an attitude adjustment. Quote:
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i notied you live in san jose.. where in the world can you possibly use that much more speed? especially with that traffic
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I don't have any 8-piston systems on any of my supercars that I am aware of, and the largest of the sytems usually use 4-piston calipers -- not even 6-pistons. About half of the real-high-speed cars utilize an airbreak to enable haul-down from excessive speeds; and the rest 'just' have four piston-calipers. Like I said, very few of them utilize a 6-piston system. Of course, the SL is a heavier car, and most of the supercars are quite a bit lighter LOL - so I could see where 6-pistons may be necessary in a 150mph haul-down in the SL55..... Last edited by ClayJ; 02-16-2006 at 04:08 PM. |
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maybe the 8-caliper system was handier for when the electronic braking system failed and you were left with the strength of your leg and the pad to the disc; perhaps it's a sign of their confidence that they've gotten the bugs out of the system that they have reduced the calipers to 6...
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What I not quite understand is that my 2002 BY (2003 MY) S55 brakes noticably less good (disks & pads are OK though). Could this be the difference caused by the infamous SBC (sensotronic brake system)? If so, I'll have SBC any day (as long as it works and is properly debugged). Last edited by sprins; 02-16-2006 at 06:04 PM. |
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My understanding is that they are also on their third braking system software version with this new SL55 -- haven't confirmed that, maybe someone who is a tech could confirm that for us?
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It should for example be possible (on cars in Europe anyway) to put the car (e.g. in front of a stop light) on brake by pressing the brake all the way and then letting go quickly, so that you can put your foot on the accelerator (sort of poor mans launch control). This and the minor HW upgrades. So with the facelift that makes three revisions. |
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i am so glad i did not wait for the facelift SL55... nothing has changed.
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Thanks sprins -- I always like to double-check my thinking....
In any event, this braking system should just get better and better.... I know that I have heard that they are debating/working on improving (or replacing with another system) the brake-by-wire system as it was released in its original incarnation -- not enough feel, and too many complaints.... I'd like to see them improve it! Last edited by ClayJ; 02-17-2006 at 12:10 PM. |
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I go out to the Nevada desert a lot.
And, maybe it's irrational, but it bugs me that the Porsche Turbo, the Corvette Z06, the Ford GT or any Ferrari does not have this "nanny" software. It bugs me so much that, if I had no way to remove it, I might just buy one of the cars mentioned above instead of the SL. The nanny speed limiter and "performance car" just seems to be a major contradiction. Quote:
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I was under the impression that the new composite brakes transferred heat far better, meaning less fade and better braking performance - thus allowing for the piston reduction.
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Very good point IanSL55 that alone could explain it.
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Pistons are more for stopping power. Six pistons are enough to lock the brakes especially with all the extra nannys you have on board.
It's the heat that's getting everyone
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It's a comprehensive makeover and they've freshened the car up to its replacement in 2009/10/11. All this talk in the past about an F1 nose, all the photoshopped pictures was nonsense. Same for the talk of Mercedes dropping supercharging - They may well have been planning to at one point but the volume of SL55 sold was much more than they expected so best left alone.
The yawning performance gap between the old SL500 and SL55 has been closed a little. As an early SL55 owner, the car has moved on quite a lot now, but not enough to make me actually realise the significant depreciation hit and buy a new one. If I had an original SL500, I'd be more tempted. Was exactly the same for the previous SL. By the time the facelifts had happened (1 mid-life like this one, 1 last gasp), the earliest cars were looking a bit old. Just beginning to think Berry Red was not such a good idea... In the meantime, I've just placed my deposit of $17000 on a 997 TT...
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actually, i never saw any photoshopped pictures but i did see a new SL55 with a SLR/SLK hood/nose on it. thought it was bizarre and it did make everyone i saw in the showroom while i was there do double-takes when they saw it (there had been a real SLR in the same spot a few weeks beforehand).
the nonsense turns out to be the salesperson's explanation that this was a genuine MB part (the hood) from europe, and would constitute the "refresh" for 2007. so, right now there's someone driving around in that thing. pretty nifty one-off if you ask me (it was a really well-executed mod, that much can definitely be said).
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does the 6 piston callipers brakes look smaller thenthe 8 piston brakes.? or are they the same size! love the massive brakes on the cls55 and sl55... hopefully, they dont look smaller or anyhing with the 6 piston.
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