SL55/63/65/R230 AMG: Round Round Get around, I got a round
04-02-2014, 04:24 PM
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You are just trying to trash my post, but your knowledge is not advanced
enough to do it, I did not say it's got another 50 horse power, I said it just
felt better.
However you know nothing about Turbo' power , the more obstacles you remove
from an exhaust system the more boost and power you will get.
The ECU is going to stop big increases but nevertheless you will get more
power, and don't make out people do it JUST for noise, it's also done for
an increase in power.
I don't know why you insist on bashing my posts. We all contribute to this
forum, and if you think someone is talking crap just have a giggle.
power.
enough to do it, I did not say it's got another 50 horse power, I said it just
felt better.
However you know nothing about Turbo' power , the more obstacles you remove
from an exhaust system the more boost and power you will get.
The ECU is going to stop big increases but nevertheless you will get more
power, and don't make out people do it JUST for noise, it's also done for
an increase in power.
I don't know why you insist on bashing my posts. We all contribute to this
forum, and if you think someone is talking crap just have a giggle.
power.
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What a load of BULL
Who offers this crap. It's a silver 2009 SL63 with red/brown interior.
And just for information my 2009 SL63 came with carbon pack, looks
somewhat more exclusive than black wood, It also had 19" rims ,heated airscarf, heated/cooled seats, Pano roof , Paddles , silver of course, not
like black paddles on a silver arrow, all other extras I had, and they can be ordered anyway.
If you can't see the colour on a computer monitor it's not worth showing, to
me it is just an old model, sounds to me like someone is using silver arrow
to sell a ordinary SL with a new paint job.
I don't see any Mercedes dealer offering it, perhaps someone can find out
who is offering this car, If it was Mercedes you would know about it.
04-02-2014, 05:16 PM
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I read and I LAFF... very funny indeed. BUT..... fyi this is bashing...
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What a load of BULL
Who offers this crap. It's a silver 2009 SL63 with red/brown interior.
And just for information my 2009 SL63 came with carbon pack, looks
somewhat more exclusive than black wood, It also had 19" rims ,heated airscarf, heated/cooled seats, Pano roof , Paddles , silver of course, not
like black paddles on a silver arrow, all other extras I had, and they can be ordered anyway.
If you can't see the colour on a computer monitor it's not worth showing, to
me it is just an old model, sounds to me like someone is using silver arrow
to sell a ordinary SL with a new paint job.
I don't see any Mercedes dealer offering it, perhaps someone can find out
who is offering this car, If it was Mercedes you would know about it.
sound 8
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What a load of BULL
Who offers this crap. It's a silver 2009 SL63 with red/brown interior.
And just for information my 2009 SL63 came with carbon pack, looks
somewhat more exclusive than black wood, It also had 19" rims ,heated airscarf, heated/cooled seats, Pano roof , Paddles , silver of course, not
like black paddles on a silver arrow, all other extras I had, and they can be ordered anyway.
If you can't see the colour on a computer monitor it's not worth showing, to
me it is just an old model, sounds to me like someone is using silver arrow
to sell a ordinary SL with a new paint job.
I don't see any Mercedes dealer offering it, perhaps someone can find out
who is offering this car, If it was Mercedes you would know about it.
04-03-2014, 10:56 AM
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I found out a long time ago, it's pointless to argue with Sound8. Whatever theory he as at the time, you're not going to change his mind. No matter how many facts you throw at him. He sticks to his guns, and won't be told otherwise. Remember when his R230 SL63 was the best model in all the land? He wouldn't take no for answer, that is , until he got a V12TT SL. Then all of a sudden, the slow 5-speed didn't matter. Which is what we said all along. Listen, he's passionate about whatever car he has AT THAT POINT IN TIME. Nothing wrong with that, I suppose. But Sound8, if you post on a public forum, please remember you're going to get all types of replies. And some of those replies are going to be corrective. Be open to learning something or being wrong every once in a while. The 231 AMG is an amazing vehicle. Enjoy your car...
So, with that aside, let's just talk about the appearance. Going to the round tips, is not aesthetically pleasing on the car, in my opinion. I think the OEM tips looked great. But I also think lambo doors on a honda looks asinine, yet kids continue to install them. To each their own as far a visual cues go, and I'll leave the hp debate, or lack of horsepower debate, to those that have more time on their hands.
Sound8, whacha gonna do with those OEM tips?
So, with that aside, let's just talk about the appearance. Going to the round tips, is not aesthetically pleasing on the car, in my opinion. I think the OEM tips looked great. But I also think lambo doors on a honda looks asinine, yet kids continue to install them. To each their own as far a visual cues go, and I'll leave the hp debate, or lack of horsepower debate, to those that have more time on their hands.
Sound8, whacha gonna do with those OEM tips?
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04-03-2014, 11:21 AM
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I have to laugh the way all you sheep heard round all going , ba ba ba
you sound like a bunch of old women
People who live in the states are the biggest modifiers of cars than anyone
in the rest of the world, apart from Japan maybe.
AND when one of you makes a modification, you all pat each other on the
back and say how wonderful it is. Several members expressed a dislike
for square pipes, and the way they end in the bumper instead of sticking out
the back maybe only a fraction but enough to give the car a balanced look.
I also like to see a little bit of pipe showing, but at least I did it, only mistake
was showing it, I should of guessed certain members would only trash it.
And I stick what I say, the less restriction in the exhaust on a turbo car the
more power you will get even if it's 5 hp, or no extra power just better pick up etc. At least it's more interesting than ABC problems.
you sound like a bunch of old women
People who live in the states are the biggest modifiers of cars than anyone
in the rest of the world, apart from Japan maybe.
AND when one of you makes a modification, you all pat each other on the
back and say how wonderful it is. Several members expressed a dislike
for square pipes, and the way they end in the bumper instead of sticking out
the back maybe only a fraction but enough to give the car a balanced look.
I also like to see a little bit of pipe showing, but at least I did it, only mistake
was showing it, I should of guessed certain members would only trash it.
And I stick what I say, the less restriction in the exhaust on a turbo car the
more power you will get even if it's 5 hp, or no extra power just better pick up etc. At least it's more interesting than ABC problems.
04-03-2014, 11:33 AM
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I found out a long time ago, it's pointless to argue with Sound8. Whatever theory he as at the time, you're not going to change his mind. No matter how many facts you throw at him. He sticks to his guns, and won't be told otherwise. Remember when his R230 SL63 was the best model in all the land? He wouldn't take no for answer, that is , until he got a V12TT SL. Then all of a sudden, the slow 5-speed didn't matter. Which is what we said all along. Listen, he's passionate about whatever car he has AT THAT POINT IN TIME. Nothing wrong with that, I suppose. But Sound8, if you post on a public forum, please remember you're going to get all types of replies. And some of those replies are going to be corrective. Be open to learning something or being wrong every once in a while. The 231 AMG is an amazing vehicle. Enjoy your car...
So, with that in mind, let's just talk about the appearance. Going to the round tips, is not aesthetically pleasing on the car, in my opinion. I think the OEM tips looked great. But I also think lambo doors on a honda looks asinine, yet kids continue to install them. To each their own as far a visual cues go, and I'll leave the hp debate, or lack of horsepower debate, to those that have more time on their hands.
Sound8, whacha gonna do with those OEM tips?
So, with that in mind, let's just talk about the appearance. Going to the round tips, is not aesthetically pleasing on the car, in my opinion. I think the OEM tips looked great. But I also think lambo doors on a honda looks asinine, yet kids continue to install them. To each their own as far a visual cues go, and I'll leave the hp debate, or lack of horsepower debate, to those that have more time on their hands.
Sound8, whacha gonna do with those OEM tips?
I wish you and some other members stop acting like you know
everything, and the condescending way you talk to people.
AND why do you have to print your drag times or show your car
everytime you reply. Do suck your thumb at night.
And it's sound 8 with a gap, so when replying get it right.
04-03-2014, 12:00 PM
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It is not just the odd post you trash, it's them all.
I wish you and some other members stop acting like you know
everything, and the condescending way you talk to people.
AND why do you have to print your drag times or show your car
everytime you reply. Do suck your thumb at night.
And it's sound 8 with a gap, so when replying get it right.
I wish you and some other members stop acting like you know
everything, and the condescending way you talk to people.
AND why do you have to print your drag times or show your car
everytime you reply. Do suck your thumb at night.
And it's sound 8 with a gap, so when replying get it right.
About the dragtimes... They've been gone for a little bit now, but only because my signature needed a refresh. Father was a pro NHRA/IHRA driver, my brother is currently in the NHRA standings running Super-Pro, and it's been a hobby of mine, forever. Breaking and holding the SL600 WR ET was something I was proud of. What's your point?
And what do you consider "trashing" of a thread? Disagreeing with you? I can't even remember replying to one of your threads recently. We haven't mixed it up since you said one day that torque has nothing to do with winning races, or something to that affect.
Number of threads Sound 8 started in 2013 = 48. Number of replies from Benz-O-Rama in those threads = 0
Number of threads Sound 8 started in 2014 = 14. Number of replies from Benz-O-Rama in those threads = 0 (Not counting the two in this one)
Your argument is invalid. I largely ignore you.
Suck my thumb at night? Negative. At night I kiss my two ridiculously amazing sons when I tuck them into bed, and then hop into bed beside my much-too-hot-for-me wife. Been 17 years she's put up with me. Not sure how, seeing how I'm just a know-it-all who trashes everybody.
Enjoy your car in good health.
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04-03-2014, 03:32 PM
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Always entertaining....silly, but entertaining. I guess I should probably remove my performance times from my signature also, just so people don't think that I am bragging...after all, anyone can run 10sec quarter mile times in a 4700lb convertible...
04-03-2014, 06:06 PM
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I actually haven't tracked the car since the day I set my PB. Until somebody breaks it, I'll stare at that 11.01 and let it taunt me since I didn't put it in the 10s. That PB run, I even spun a bit out of the hole. That was the 10 sec run, I so desired....
In my best "Gladiator" voice: Are you NOT entertained? Lol...
04-04-2014, 12:37 PM
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I give up, everything I say goes over your head 
Do you like looking in the mirror, or are your drag times stuck on the glass,
or maybe etched in your windscreen, it really doesn't matter.
Do you like looking in the mirror, or are your drag times stuck on the glass,
or maybe etched in your windscreen, it really doesn't matter.
04-04-2014, 12:56 PM
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I found out a long time ago, it's pointless to argue with Sound8. Whatever theory he as at the time, you're not going to change his mind. No matter how many facts you throw at him. He sticks to his guns, and won't be told otherwise. Remember when his R230 SL63 was the best model in all the land? He wouldn't take no for answer, that is , until he got a V12TT SL. Then all of a sudden, the slow 5-speed didn't matter. Which is what we said all along. Listen, he's passionate about whatever car he has AT THAT POINT IN TIME. Nothing wrong with that, I suppose. But Sound8, if you post on a public forum, please remember you're going to get all types of replies. And some of those replies are going to be corrective. Be open to learning something or being wrong every once in a while. The 231 AMG is an amazing vehicle. Enjoy your car...
So, with that aside, let's just talk about the appearance. Going to the round tips, is not aesthetically pleasing on the car, in my opinion. I think the OEM tips looked great. But I also think lambo doors on a honda looks asinine, yet kids continue to install them. To each their own as far a visual cues go, and I'll leave the hp debate, or lack of horsepower debate, to those that have more time on their hands.
Sound8, whacha gonna do with those OEM tips?
So, with that aside, let's just talk about the appearance. Going to the round tips, is not aesthetically pleasing on the car, in my opinion. I think the OEM tips looked great. But I also think lambo doors on a honda looks asinine, yet kids continue to install them. To each their own as far a visual cues go, and I'll leave the hp debate, or lack of horsepower debate, to those that have more time on their hands.
Sound8, whacha gonna do with those OEM tips?
" he won't be told otherwise " no one asked you to comment on my thread,
posted mainly to show round pipes, and to say it drives well, with better
throttle response, which you cannot disprove , the same way as I cannot
prove it. My post was for people who wanted to see the SL63 with round
pipes and obviously how it sounds. Please do not say it won't sound any
different, I am an acoustic engineer and you need to understand about
wavelengths , frequencies, and movement of air under different enviroments.
Sorry for the brag. So there was no need to trash it, or put me down.
You'd think I had just called a bunch of ******. Any way give my condolences to your wife for putting up with you for 17 years.
My poor lady has had to put up with me for 46 years
The OEM tips are currently being dismembered for an Idea I have, it wont
be long before you can trash this as well.
04-04-2014, 03:48 PM
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You have a short memory, a couple of posts back you said this,
" he won't be told otherwise " no one asked you to comment on my thread,
posted mainly to show round pipes, and to say it drives well, with better
throttle response, which you cannot disprove , the same way as I cannot
prove it. My post was for people who wanted to see the SL63 with round
pipes and obviously how it sounds. Please do not say it won't sound any
different, I am an acoustic engineer and you need to understand about
wavelengths , frequencies, and movement of air under different enviroments.
Sorry for the brag. So there was no need to trash it, or put me down.
You'd think I had just called a bunch of ******. Any way give my condolences to your wife for putting up with you for 17 years.
My poor lady has had to put up with me for 46 years
The OEM tips are currently being dismembered for an Idea I have, it wont
be long before you can trash this as well.
" he won't be told otherwise " no one asked you to comment on my thread,
posted mainly to show round pipes, and to say it drives well, with better
throttle response, which you cannot disprove , the same way as I cannot
prove it. My post was for people who wanted to see the SL63 with round
pipes and obviously how it sounds. Please do not say it won't sound any
different, I am an acoustic engineer and you need to understand about
wavelengths , frequencies, and movement of air under different enviroments.
Sorry for the brag. So there was no need to trash it, or put me down.
You'd think I had just called a bunch of ******. Any way give my condolences to your wife for putting up with you for 17 years.
My poor lady has had to put up with me for 46 years
The OEM tips are currently being dismembered for an Idea I have, it wont
be long before you can trash this as well.
1. Not sure you understand how public forums work. You started a thread soliciting responses from the membership. You don't get to pick and choose who replies. You made an aesthetic change to you car, which by nature, will be subjective. I'm not a fan of the change, and voiced my opinion. Not to mention you stated that new exhaust tips, and I quote,
...without saying at least another 50 hp I will refrain, let's just say it definitely feels quicker.
2. Acoustic engineer? Great. I'm a sandwich engineer.
3. I'll let her know you feel sorry for her. I do too.
4a. I'll applaud 46 years married to anyone, especially to you. Congrats on your marriage, it's not easy.
4b. With 46 year of marriage, one can conclude that you're well into your 60s, at least. I was raised by parents that instilled values in me, such as respecting your elders. Or in your case, extreme elders.
In the future, I'll TRY to refrain from completely dissecting your posts, with actual facts. But seeing how this is the first thread of yours I've commented in, since December 2012, it won't be hard.Enjoy your new found audible bliss. And with that, I'll bid you GOOD DAY.
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04-05-2014, 07:02 PM
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For a long time I have wanted round instead of square tail pipes. The
trouble is the square pipes are not joined to the exhaust end. So I took
her to some race car fabricators. Turbos like free flowing systems, and
the dogs dinner blowing exhaust gases into a funnel then out of square tips
would be a no no. So they put 3 inch pipe from my back box then split it
in to 2 3 inch pipes. I love the look but it's quite different to drive.
Less cabin noise, superb throttle response, and without saying at least another 50 hp I will refrain, let's just say it definitely feels quicker.
It's very smooth like a SL65, and with your foot down you get a sharp
crackle, instead of a farty rustle. Great on long journeys, do not know why
MB have designed this imo crap, emmissions I have been told, or fashion.
I can't stop driving her, the enthusiasm has returned.
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trouble is the square pipes are not joined to the exhaust end. So I took
her to some race car fabricators. Turbos like free flowing systems, and
the dogs dinner blowing exhaust gases into a funnel then out of square tips
would be a no no. So they put 3 inch pipe from my back box then split it
in to 2 3 inch pipes. I love the look but it's quite different to drive.
Less cabin noise, superb throttle response, and without saying at least another 50 hp I will refrain, let's just say it definitely feels quicker.
It's very smooth like a SL65, and with your foot down you get a sharp
crackle, instead of a farty rustle. Great on long journeys, do not know why
MB have designed this imo crap, emmissions I have been told, or fashion.
I can't stop driving her, the enthusiasm has returned.
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As far as throttle response and power- there is no possible change. Exhaust flows only as fast as it's most restrictive components. The cats, mufflers and down pipes are far more restrictive than the tailpipes/tips and as such changing just the tips will have no impact on power. (Frankly, imagine a world where Mercedes harmed throttle response and power because of the tips they chose
). I just looked under the car and after seeing it- the stock setup has just about the maximum amount of flow possible. Now the sound can certainly change as any modifications to the piping can have an impact....
04-06-2014, 05:06 PM
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Sweet Christopher Columbus!!!!!!!!!!!! I knew you were far too persnickity &
I have to laugh the way all you sheep heard round all going , ba ba ba
you sound like a bunch of old women
People who live in the states are the biggest modifiers of cars than anyone
in the rest of the world, apart from Japan maybe.
AND when one of you makes a modification, you all pat each other on the
back and say how wonderful it is. Several members expressed a dislike
for square pipes, and the way they end in the bumper instead of sticking out
the back maybe only a fraction but enough to give the car a balanced look.
I also like to see a little bit of pipe showing, but at least I did it, only mistake
was showing it, I should of guessed certain members would only trash it.
And I stick what I say, the less restriction in the exhaust on a turbo car the
more power you will get even if it's 5 hp, or no extra power just better pick up etc. At least it's more interesting than ABC problems.
you sound like a bunch of old women
People who live in the states are the biggest modifiers of cars than anyone
in the rest of the world, apart from Japan maybe.
AND when one of you makes a modification, you all pat each other on the
back and say how wonderful it is. Several members expressed a dislike
for square pipes, and the way they end in the bumper instead of sticking out
the back maybe only a fraction but enough to give the car a balanced look.
I also like to see a little bit of pipe showing, but at least I did it, only mistake
was showing it, I should of guessed certain members would only trash it.
And I stick what I say, the less restriction in the exhaust on a turbo car the
more power you will get even if it's 5 hp, or no extra power just better pick up etc. At least it's more interesting than ABC problems.
I see you have other hobbies too
Perhaps you could go harrass some other men who actually share your hobby interests?This is by far the most hilarious misguided thread/posts I've ever read on a car forum, you vandalized your own SL, hacking off the rectangular oem tipps which were made rectangular to fit the rectangular diffuser openings & replaced them w/PEP Boys special of the week "Broomstick Tipps" Then in prolonged delirium exclaimed..
So I took her to some race car fabricators. Turbos like free flowing systems, they removed the rectangular tipps & added round tipps.. This added, Superb throttle response, and without saying at least another 50 hp I will refrain, let's just say it definitely feels quicker.
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04-07-2014, 11:31 AM
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Some comments from above items in bold.
1. Not sure you understand how public forums work. You started a thread soliciting responses from the membership. You don't get to pick and choose who replies. You made an aesthetic change to you car, which by nature, will be subjective. I'm not a fan of the change, and voiced my opinion. Not to mention you stated that new exhaust tips, and I quote, Please understand there's not an exhaust tip on the planet that will give you an appreciable gain in WHP. And yes, I fully understand the dynamics of turbocharged engines. The other FACTS mentioned in my comments are because of the incessant back and forth that comes with anything you post. You don't handle criticism or correction very well, and any replies you get that aren't in 100% agreement with your view, your feelings get hurt.
2. Acoustic engineer? Great. I'm a sandwich engineer.
3. I'll let her know you feel sorry for her. I do too.
4a. I'll applaud 46 years married to anyone, especially to you. Congrats on your marriage, it's not easy.
4b. With 46 year of marriage, one can conclude that you're well into your 60s, at least. I was raised by parents that instilled values in me, such as respecting your elders. Or in your case, extreme elders. In the future, I'll TRY to refrain from completely dissecting your posts, with actual facts. But seeing how this is the first thread of yours I've commented in, since December 2012, it won't be hard.
Enjoy your new found audible bliss. And with that, I'll bid you GOOD DAY.
1. Not sure you understand how public forums work. You started a thread soliciting responses from the membership. You don't get to pick and choose who replies. You made an aesthetic change to you car, which by nature, will be subjective. I'm not a fan of the change, and voiced my opinion. Not to mention you stated that new exhaust tips, and I quote, Please understand there's not an exhaust tip on the planet that will give you an appreciable gain in WHP. And yes, I fully understand the dynamics of turbocharged engines. The other FACTS mentioned in my comments are because of the incessant back and forth that comes with anything you post. You don't handle criticism or correction very well, and any replies you get that aren't in 100% agreement with your view, your feelings get hurt.
2. Acoustic engineer? Great. I'm a sandwich engineer.
3. I'll let her know you feel sorry for her. I do too.
4a. I'll applaud 46 years married to anyone, especially to you. Congrats on your marriage, it's not easy.
4b. With 46 year of marriage, one can conclude that you're well into your 60s, at least. I was raised by parents that instilled values in me, such as respecting your elders. Or in your case, extreme elders.
In the future, I'll TRY to refrain from completely dissecting your posts, with actual facts. But seeing how this is the first thread of yours I've commented in, since December 2012, it won't be hard.Enjoy your new found audible bliss. And with that, I'll bid you GOOD DAY.
your reply is ..great I'm a sandwhich engineer.
A nasty reply full of venom.:
why, oh why.Is it because You feel I am a threat, as I am older according to you I should get some respect. If I am talking crap why get so aggressive, my thread
is for entertainment.
I agree the pipes are to small, the motor racing stable say because of the
small tips you get less noise, so when you accelerate because of the lack
of noise it feels faster, even though it probably isn't.
So I am going to put oval tips on, anything but square.
04-07-2014, 06:01 PM
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You should've quit this on page 1..
So you're an Acoustic Engineer ehhh
Which is it? When you accelerate now, the lack of noise makes it feel faster? Or the sharp crackle? You described on page 1 of this lame thread, this isn't the way anybody would describe your latest randition of what you remember saying from 1 min to the next, especially one w/your expert ears..
04-08-2014, 03:38 PM
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So you're an Acoustic Engineer ehhh Which is it? When you accelerate now, the lack of noise makes it feel faster? Or the sharp crackle? You described on page 1 of this lame thread, this isn't the way anybody would describe your latest randition of what you remember saying from 1 min to the next, especially one w/your expert ears..
Which is it? When you accelerate now, the lack of noise makes it feel faster? Or the sharp crackle? You described on page 1 of this lame thread, this isn't the way anybody would describe your latest randition of what you remember saying from 1 min to the next, especially one w/your expert ears..
04-13-2014, 10:20 PM
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That looks terrible.
But anyways... have you been meaning to say you hacked off your mufflers and ran a straight pipe to some new tips? That would indeed increase noise a bit as well... not sure about that 50hp though.
But anyways... have you been meaning to say you hacked off your mufflers and ran a straight pipe to some new tips? That would indeed increase noise a bit as well... not sure about that 50hp though.
