sound 8

For the last few days I have been driving my S600, do not use it much since
I lost my Dad. It felt flat at first but then it started to feel quick and responsive. And then going home I had a tangle with a big Audi. My girl
ate it for breakfast.. And then I thought a SL600 must be nice, although
my 600 is re mapped think what else you could do, even a wide body.
It's funny I used to have a CL65 and I will swear the 600 was quicker , even
the gear box felt better. Now SL600's beating everyone on drag times. I love the wide body, but a SL600 with a few mods and a black kit should be
awesome the only trouble is you don't see many 600 for sale.
S8

F1BHP

I think only a handful of SL600 facelift cars are in the UK, so you have almost no chance. You may find an older one 2004/2005 as maybe 20 were sold.

sound 8

That's a shame, a 2005 would be good with a wide body kit.
Trouble is finding one.
S8

Speedriven1

I like the 600s. If you were going to go and really chase records- low-mid 8s, 170+ MPH traps, etc. I'd go with a 600. Just sayin'.

BlownV8

You're going g to need a different car for those results. Best we've seen is high 9's at 140 mph. 8's at 170 mph is a quantum leap.

Speedriven1

Of course it is, but it's not like it requires a new unified field theory to accomplish. As it is, no one's really done a big turbo car, no one's really done a built motor, no one's done a narrowed axle to put righteous tires on it, etc., etc. No new tech/reinvention of the wheel required.

Thericker

Don't forget that high 9.9 @ 141+mph was in blazing July/Aug heat in Arizona.. I'll bet given Nov cool air 50 deg or so in great DA that particular SL600 we're talking about could run 9.5 or lower @ 146-148 mph w/current setup Now add the mandatory unsprung weight mods, & the latest/largest Speedriven big turbo setup & required mods we could def see a high 8.9x

Remember SGC in CL65 ran 10.2x @ 138 mph or there abouts, forget his actual trap, w/stock turbs & boatload of unsprung weight mods... These cars are just getting started, put the right mods w/right driver & look out

F1BHP

Has anybody ever seen any times from the Brabus guys? They talk big numbers but what about the 1/4 mile?

Speedriven1

I don't think SGC had stock turbos. I could be wrong, but I vaguely remember some sort of modded turbo going on the car while I was still at RT (this is Jo, again). Could be wrong.

F1BHP

ABC delete is a must if you want to get that low. I am down around 300lb from stock. With the ABC delete it could get close to 500lb so 3,800lb could be possible fairly easily.

F1BHP

Hey Jo has Speedriven done anything new with the inter coolers?

Thericker

True.. my bad he added the Black Series turbos, tho he denied using them he sold them to Jody & they def wern't brand new

BlownV8

I guess anything is possible with enough money but who is going to throw that much money into an SL.

BlownV8

What have you done for that weight savings?

F1BHP

Wheels, tires, brake discs and calipers. Removed spare wheel and tool kit, two lithium batteries, Recaro race seats, Fiberglass bonnet and panels however I am not sure any weight was saved on that. Alpine 007 head unit.

Probably a few other small things I can't remember. ABC delete will be on the list once it fails.

AMG-Driver

I had both - SL600 and SL65 and can compare both stock and both ECU-Tuned.

If you compare true accelerating times from 200-300 KM/H the SL65 is faster both stock and tuned. I must admit that the tuned SL600 felt also very fast in comparison because there was more sudden Turbo boost at 4000 RPM in the 600 but the SL65 has already a lot more punch from 2500-4000 RPM, mainly because of the different cam profile and more displacement.

After all, I see no advantages for the 600, because you can do everything like big Turbos etc. also with the 65. And the 65 already has stronger clutch,transmission, better piston cooling, bigger fuel-pump etc. AMG has done their job with the engine...

sound 8

Well guys an excellent bunch of info. In a way the 600 has more Kudos
than a 65. It's not a 65 yet would blow away a stock 55 AMG. And with a
bi-turbo engine there is more to do than I want, I wont be doing drag times
but I still want fantastic acceleration. As I said there like dragons teeth to
find, and just before I bought my wide body 63 there was a wide body 600
for sale, only trouble was high mileage but that reflected half the price I paid
for the 63. I would like to know if 600's brakes, suspension etc will be man
enough to take a tuned engine. Is the SL600 quiet, exhaust noise I mean,
cos the stock 65 is.
S8

F1BHP

Yes the 600 is quiet, the suspension is great apart from the known ABC issues and the brakes cannot handle the power it has let alone the extra power.

Making it lighter will help the brakes or just change for sl65 brakes or go after market. 200cell 3" down pipes and 3" straight pipe after will fix the limited sound.

Ingenere

I was thinking exactly this! The SL is a great car, but really isn't designed as a track car. I've tracked mine over the years on road courses and it actually is fairly competent, but isn't a track car. It would be hugely silly to try to make it into one, when there are plenty of out of the box cars to fit that bill.

Listening to these massive builds with body kits and engine builds on what amounts to a $25K car with $50K in mods, sounds like the M3 kids who spend $35K on the car and sink another $40K in mods that they will never see again at best and devalue the car at worst.

F1BHP

Maybe I just like a challenge.

The way I looked at it was I got a 6k mile car for 1/3 of the original price. I don't really mind putting money into it as I do not intend to sell my car. I like to do things the hard way.

When I did my E46 M3 I used the convertible. Was this the best choice? No! however I did enjoy going into uncharted territory.

Sometimes we just do things for the fun of it and because we are curious to see what might happen.

sound 8

I am certainly not interested in track days or come to that Drag times
although I wouldn't mind going to Sante Pod as a spectator. No if I had
a 600 I would put a Prior wide body kit on, then a little exhaust work, I
don't think the V12 is as tuneful as a V8, but love the electric acceleration
you get from a V12. It was the silent way I was hurled toward the horizon
when I was driving my S600. So body kit yes, bigger brakes and just over
600 bhp in silence unless a small burble in acceptable. Gives you something
to look forward too, and far cheaper than a new SL , Ferrari , Lambo etc.
S8

F1BHP

Sound 8 I may be heading to Santa Pod on the 12th of September if you are interested.

F1BHP

So the 9.9 run as well as the 10.2 run were both using NOS. I feel disappointed really, I was so happy that someone had managed to get that kind of time and we might find a way of extracting the full potential out of these engines. Now we are back to square one.