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Old 11-08-2015, 09:57 AM
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Any heat soak issues with 2013 SL63?

Hi, I'm a long time forum member but have been away for a long time. I just put a deposit down on a 2013 SL63 AMG with performance package and supposed RennTech ECU tune. Any need for additional cooling? Not very familiar with the V8 Biturbo engine. I had a 2005 CL65 that needed larger intercoolers and pump because the IAT were outrageously high. Has this been re-engineered better with the 5.5L V8 Biturbo. Any input would be appreciated. Thank in advance!

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You may want to try the R231 forum.
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I do not see an R231 forum for AMG vehicles???...so I thought I would try R230.
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first you should contact renntech and find out if the car does have their ecu.
they keep records of that stuff. next if it does or doesnt have it, the price should be adjusted
next ask them about the cooling issues, their testing will answer that question. If you look at their website it tells everything
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Originally Posted by okbarnett
first you should contact renntech and find out if the car does have their ecu.
they keep records of that stuff. next if it does or doesnt have it, the price should be adjusted
next ask them about the cooling issues, their testing will answer that question. If you look at their website it tells everything
Above all, you should have any car inspected at a MB dealer and get a master sheet and get a carfax BEFORE YOU BUY IT
Understood and agree with what you said. Thanks, I will let you know what happens.

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Hey thanks, for some reason I did not see it? I do know so thanks again!

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Yes cooling is much better, and direct injection helps the engine a lot. You can still find intercooler heat exchanger upgrades, but they're not needed as badly as the previous AMG forced induction engines.
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Good luck with the new ride, however I would do some more homework before committing. I thought there were some issues with the 63TT cars randomly shutting off. I would read all the 63TT forums (E,CLS,S&SL) to learn more about the motor and cooling issue, regardless of the platform, I can't picture the engine performance to differ too much. The change to the SL is going to be more of a size factor once you understand the motor and its capabilities.

Finding out if the car has already been tuned is important, since it tells you the original owners use and behavior. Asking Renntech if they think additional cooling is necessary is crazy. They sell a $3500 cooling kit so of course they will speak on the importance of additional cooling, that is their business and how they make money, if not try to push a $1400 pump. The parts aren't offered on their website for the SL, probably due to fitment not need, since they are listed for both the E and CLS.

Its too bad you have been able to get more response for 63TT owners, try the 212 forum, those guys are pushing their cars and may know when the additional cooling is really needed, and at what outside temps they notice power to fall off, Florida still gets hot.
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Yes cooling is much better, and direct injection helps the engine a lot. You can still find intercooler heat exchanger upgrades, but they're not needed as badly as the previous AMG forced induction engines.
Hey thanks for the information. Glad to hear that the M157 engine has been designed better than the M113 55's engine and the M275 65's engines. I obviously do not want to waste money on useless mods so I need to find out if the air intake or extra intercooler pump and heat exchanger is worth getting or is it unnecessary.

Thanks again for your help and any other information you may know feel free to pass it along...it would be much appreciated. Be well !

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Good luck with the new ride, however I would do some more homework before committing. I thought there were some issues with the 63TT cars randomly shutting off. I would read all the 63TT forums (E,CLS,S&SL) to learn more about the motor and cooling issue, regardless of the platform, I can't picture the engine performance to differ too much. The change to the SL is going to be more of a size factor once you understand the motor and its capabilities.

Finding out if the car has already been tuned is important, since it tells you the original owners use and behavior. Asking Renntech if they think additional cooling is necessary is crazy. They sell a $3500 cooling kit so of course they will speak on the importance of additional cooling, that is their business and how they make money, if not try to push a $1400 pump. The parts aren't offered on their website for the SL, probably due to fitment not need, since they are listed for both the E and CLS.

Its too bad you have been able to get more response for 63TT owners, try the 212 forum, those guys are pushing their cars and may know when the additional cooling is really needed, and at what outside temps they notice power to fall off, Florida still gets hot.
Ok, I will check out the other forums...great advice. I called Renntech and confirmed the tune on the car but I will tell you the car is immaculate with only 9K and change miles on it. It does not look beat on at all. I'm sure there was some spirited driving no doubt but I am confident the car was well taken care of. It is a Mercedes now getting an inspection so I'm hoping they will do a good job and let me know any thing that may look abused or worn out.

Be well and thanks for your input, it is much appreciated !

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