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Old 10-10-2007, 10:55 PM
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I wrote a thread a while ago about my persistant hesitation on off idle. Well I finally took it in and they did a check, but couldn't find any codes, however, they did something that improved it 200%. I tried to scan my service order but, couldn't (printer error), but here is what they did. They installed a MESFI code which was for the engine, and a ETC code for the transmission. I will ask when I get a chance what all of this means, but the performance now off idle is incredable, a totally changed vehicle. This thing now jumps instead of accelerating. He did say that the codes will not have any effect on "C" mode, but on "S" mode " will be more firm on acceleration", and boy is it ever. Just thought I would pass it along!!
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Details, please.
Old 10-11-2007, 12:42 AM
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Details, please.
Until I figure out the fault on my printer (copier), all I can do is quote what he has written down.............

Wahatever 540991 control unit was tested, also 540992 control unit which I assume is the transmission control unit.

I just says that they installed code MESFI and code ETC, both are flashes. One has to do with the engine the other the transmission, as I understand it. I am planning on giving them a call tomorrow and try and get details, but I'll tell you, this thing is improved two fold. The car is night/day difference. I did not have a chance to get some highway runs, will do so tomorrow and report back. If someone knows the MB codes, they could probably have more detail on how it changes the performance.
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Details, please.
+1

My sprint booster worked wonders...I wonder if this wil improve it even more...
Old 10-11-2007, 02:19 AM
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im interested in this as well.. after reading about the 63 hesitation problems on the forum i bought the sprint booster.. i would have to say for about a month i thought the sprint booster was a good buy.. now that i think about it i think it was just in my mind, or i have gotten used to it now.. i still experience the hesitation even with the sprint booster.


without the sprint booster there was hesitation at the start, now with the sprint booster i feel that there is hesitation when i have to put the pedal to the medal

im thinking about taking the sprint booster off and seeing how the car would react again.. all i know for sure is, whenever i reset the ecu, the car feels a bit faster for a few days..
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Please give us the update. We must know. I think your car was staring off in 2nd gear. Now with the trans flash, in s mode it starts off in 1st
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Originally Posted by rarfinancial
Please give us the update. We must know. I think your car was staring off in 2nd gear. Now with the trans flash, in s mode it starts off in 1st
He fixed that long ago.. This is a new fix, something thats going to really help this ECU, TCU ... I think we are seeing the result of the last 12 months of cars coming in and out for service. They will keep tweeking the software until the cars are running to full potential. I think Buck may have found the "golden ticket"

Please fix yer scanner Mr. Buckeyewalt
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Is this specifically only for the 63s or can the 55s jump on it?
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I'm very interested to find out more details as well......

Even though my car never had the hesitation, it could definately use better and stronger acceleration

What date was your car built?
Old 10-11-2007, 03:55 PM
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Yeah, I'm interested as well. I'm also interested in finding out the build dates out there... Mine's an 11/06 build. Anyone know something specific for my situation?
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Here is the service order.........https://mbworld.org/forums/attachmen...1&d=1192135436


I don't believe I did it.....Most of you guys are computer smart...just a rookie here...but anyway, the difference is very noticeable....VERY. My car build is 0806...the mechanic said that this was a flash just released..he knew nothing about it, but thought he would apply it to my vehicle....there is major thrust in first and second. The hesitation is mostly gone, but that remains to be seen under daily driving.

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buckeyewalt, I don't see any attachment; when I click on the link you posted, it says the attachment is invalid
Old 10-11-2007, 05:31 PM
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if you click on the attachment, it asks you if you want to down load the document...say yes and it will open


Yep...you are right, it won't open I tried it on my laptop and it wont open....
E-mail on the way..!!!

Thanks MB

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Thumbs up 63 Hesitation Fix Codes

Got it, here is the document.....

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Try it again........

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Old 10-11-2007, 05:53 PM
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Hey MB Forever....Thanks for the help....I played with it some more and got it to work, (yeah like it was at fault)...anyway guys...this really worked for me. Don't know if it will work for the "55", but for my "63" it worked. Sorry for the poor uploads, I hope I can do it again..

Thanks again MB for the help!!!!
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E63 P30, CL500 Sport
Yes, it works now...... thanks

I will try it next week when I take my car in for service. What bothers me is that everytime I take it in, my dealer says "your car has all the latest software updates and flash, etc...."

I understand I have one of the latest build dates for 07 models but I also know that new flashes and updates keep coming out all the time, and some have to apply to mine
Old 10-11-2007, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MB_Forever
Yes, it works now...... thanks

I will try it next week when I take my car in for service. What bothers me is that everytime I take it in, my dealer says "your car has all the latest software updates and flash, etc...."

I understand I have one of the latest build dates for 07 models but I also know that new flashes and updates keep coming out all the time, and some have to apply to mine
i don't know how you can convince them to install the new flash..other than telling them you have a hesitation or something....the first time I said this to my SA, he said that he didn't feel anything, which is bull, because now he said that he feels something when I accelerate hard, well I didn't have to accelerate hard, just a tip in off idle would do it...also a couple dozen of doughnuts for the guys worked wonders too...now when I say something that I need, I usually get the benefit of the doubt!!
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Originally Posted by buckeyewalt
i don't know how you can convince them to install the new flash..other than telling them you have a hesitation or something....the first time I said this to my SA, he said that he didn't feel anything, which is bull, because now he said that he feels something when I accelerate hard, well I didn't have to accelerate hard, just a tip in off idle would do it...also a couple dozen of doughnuts for the guys worked wonders too...now when I say something that I need, I usually get the benefit of the doubt!!

Great ,

Thanks guys!!!

I will note this and ask my SA if I need it, likely we all do.
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can I operate/ reflash on my C320 coupe

Originally Posted by MB_Forever
buckeyewalt, I don't see any attachment; when I click on the link you posted, it says the attachment is invalid
In order to get better accelaration like you have done on your E class(I believe), can I go to the dealer to reflash my ECU on my C320 coupe engine also? Or is it only for E63 AMG?
I just bought a C320 coupe, 6speed. 2004 model.

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So which SW # or job we should ask for? =D
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Originally Posted by hkpooh
So which SW # or job we should ask for? =D
If you take it in and ask them to reflash the ECU/transmission to the latest setting...you should be ok. Does your car have a hesitation..??

BTW.....even though my car is a whole lot better...it does still have some hesitation....I called MBUSA and got one of their roadside guys...and he said that he would have one of their field reps to give me a call, that was three weeks ago. Well no call to date..so I sent a nice e-mail to MBUSA....that was on monday...so far no calls or e-mails yet........waiting....
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Originally Posted by buckeyewalt
If you take it in and ask them to reflash the ECU/transmission to the latest setting...you should be ok. Does your car have a hesitation..??

BTW.....even though my car is a whole lot better...it does still have some hesitation....I called MBUSA and got one of their roadside guys...and he said that he would have one of their field reps to give me a call, that was three weeks ago. Well no call to date..so I sent a nice e-mail to MBUSA....that was on monday...so far no calls or e-mails yet........waiting....
it happened once, not sure if the situation you having.
When I drove off parking lot I give like 50% throttle expect some kick but indeed it wasn't acclerating at all until like 2 seconds.
I just got my car like 2 weeks ago.
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I hope they actually investigates and find an answer
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Originally Posted by hkpooh
it happened once, not sure if the situation you having.
When I drove off parking lot I give like 50% throttle expect some kick but indeed it wasn't acclerating at all until like 2 seconds.
I just got my car like 2 weeks ago.
Yep....that sounds like mine did and still does to some extent. The flash that they did to my car really did improve the acceleration off line..but I did still have the hesitation...not to the degree that it once was..but it still does!!


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