New E55 Supercharger power pulley/clutch! - Page 5

loungn14 · 11-17-2011, 12:41 PM

Im down for one shards...

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abhatti55 · 11-17-2011, 03:41 PM

Will the pulley retain the OEM Nachi bearing, or hopefully something of equivalent quality.

I know it was an important factor to use that bearing when replacing it on the stock pulley.

Thanks, about to preorder as well.

shardul · 11-17-2011, 05:28 PM

yes it has a german bearing of equivalent quality and speed rating

BlackCard · 11-19-2011, 05:04 AM

I'm in! Shardul, we've already confirmed!
AJ

Ali_E55 · 11-19-2011, 07:56 AM

no intention of anything, but alot of guys were installing smaller S/C pulley here in UAE since 2009. i think it was stock pulley that was shimmed to a smaller one.

the S/C pulley they used to sell was about 5mm smaller than stock and for $1800, i don't know where they were made or manufactored.

it is easier to install and better than adding extra load on the cranck.

but i would recomend to install also S/C belt rap kit with it.

great things i am seeing that are being made for 55k since i sold mine.

Exotic-metal55 · 11-21-2011, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali_E55

no intention of anything, but alot of guys were installing smaller S/C pulley here in UAE since 2009. i think it was stock pulley that was shimmed to a smaller one.

the S/C pulley they used to sell was about 5mm smaller than stock and for $1800, i don't know where they were made or manufactored.

it is easier to install and better than adding extra load on the cranck.

but i would recomend to install also S/C belt rap kit with it.

great things i am seeing that are being made for 55k since i sold mine.

This is a complete new pulley assembly and bearings. Better than the factory assembly. IMO. Lighter, smaller and great bearings!

I developed a belt wrap kit and test fit it on my car before the Texas mile. Easy to install, top quality materials and bearings. Was going to dyno test on another car but have not had the chance yet. Kits are in the early production stage right now and many of the parts are completed. New belt sizes are also in and ready. Great kit and perfect amount of wrap!!!

e500slr · 11-22-2011, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali_E55

no intention of anything, but alot of guys were installing smaller S/C pulley here in UAE since 2009. i think it was stock pulley that was shimmed to a smaller one.

the S/C pulley they used to sell was about 5mm smaller than stock and for $1800, i don't know where they were made or manufactored.

it is easier to install and better than adding extra load on the cranck.

but i would recomend to install also S/C belt rap kit with it.

great things i am seeing that are being made for 55k since i sold mine.

OFF TOPIC: Ali how's the new CLS PP? It looks incredible

God I wish I could get one

Ali_E55 · 11-22-2011, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by e500slr

OFF TOPIC: Ali how's the new CLS PP? It looks incredible

God I wish I could get one

amazing my friend, it is side by side with my 505rwhp E55k i had, called the new owner of E55 and tested it from rolling @ 60km - 220km.

a true beast with the performance package. and will mod it soon

i tried with an SLS and was a tad faster until my limiter hit @ 250km and he passed by. also tried wth SL65 Black series and he was ahead of me by 2 cars length untill my limiter again hit @ 250km.

http://mbworld.org/forums/cls55-amg-...ck-sl65bs.html

my car is stock.

Snogard · 11-23-2011, 07:50 AM

I have custom 82 mm SC pulley (-8 mm from stock diameter/ equivalent to 168mm crank pulley) for nearly a year now on E55 and for 5 years on my SLK. Been there done that. Look at my signature and look at the thread "ideal pulley design" from some time ago..."Ideal" pulley design?

Calculation is also pretty simple;
Stock ratio: 154mm crank and 90mm SC pulley at 6500 rpm give us 154/90x6500=11.122 SC rpm (on SC INLET shaft where clutch is sitting on).

Stock crank pulley fi 154mm and custom 82mm SC pulley give us 12.207 SC rpm.

168mm crank pulley and stock 90mm SC pulley give us 12.133 SC rpm.

So my 82mm custom SC pulley is the same like 168mm crank pulley, but with MUCH LESS parasitic loses and MUCH LESS stress on the crank.

Keep in mind that internals of our SC spins even faster because of SC internal gearing.

mikey33 · 11-25-2011, 04:08 AM

Is this the same thing as the 172mm or 180mm pulley that most sites sell like eurocharged and asp?

shardul · 11-25-2011, 06:35 AM

no one that i know sells a smaller SC pulley

e500slr · 11-25-2011, 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali_E55

amazing my friend, it is side by side with my 505rwhp E55k i had, called the new owner of E55 and tested it from rolling @ 60km - 220km.

a true beast with the performance package. and will mod it soon

i tried with an SLS and was a tad faster until my limiter hit @ 250km and he passed by. also tried wth SL65 Black series and he was ahead of me by 2 cars length untill my limiter again hit @ 250km.

http://mbworld.org/forums/cls55-amg-...ck-sl65bs.html

my car is stock.

The more I hear about it and see it the more I want one

novae500 · 11-25-2011, 09:48 AM

count me in as well!!

AgSilver · 11-25-2011, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shardul

you are spot on!

Just keep adding lightness.

gaspam · 11-28-2011, 04:40 PM

pencil me in too as my s/c pulley is starting to throw out some muck so i think the bearing assembly is going south...

if i ran just this s/c pulley looks like it would be like a 168mm crank pulley equivilant so would you guys be teaming up with E/C on this for tunes? i assume i could just get a 168MM tune with running just the s/c pulley and call it a day ?

DVC · 11-28-2011, 04:59 PM

Please count me in and PM with pricing info.

keith954 · 11-28-2011, 10:02 PM

Can you give me the pricing info also, and an estimated month this will be ready.

mikey33 · 11-28-2011, 11:06 PM

I might be in if I knew what the heck this was?? Is this the "typical" pulley that you usually buy with a tune or something else?

Denroll · 11-28-2011, 11:28 PM

It's something else. The "typical" pulley is the lower one that is on the crank. That's why a larger one is better. This one is up top on the supercharger itself, which is why a smaller one will make the s/c spin faster. The lower weight is also a good thing. Combine the two for winning.

mikey33 · 11-29-2011, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denroll

It's something else. The "typical" pulley is the lower one that is on the crank. That's why a larger one is better. This one is up top on the supercharger itself, which is why a smaller one will make the s/c spin faster. The lower weight is also a good thing. Combine the two for winning.

Thanks for the explanation

Is there a reason why this is only being developed now after so many years?

Exotic-metal55 · 11-30-2011, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey33

Thanks for the explanation

Is there a reason why this is only being developed now after so many years?

Yes, I used some really good engineering software to pre-test some design ideas and make it worth the effort. Again, this is a complete new CNC made and performance improved SC pulley. I cant wait to feel the REVS on my new engine build!

Here is a hot off the press sample picture. One really cool feature is the over 30% in weight reduction !! Stock SC puley is 3.5 lbs and this is only 2.5 lbs!! This is huge for getting up to power quicker and lowering streess on your SC components! This super SC pulley will put you equall to a 170mm pulley. (stock is 155).

gaspam · 11-30-2011, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Exotic-metal55

Yes, I used some really good engineering software to pre-test some design ideas and make it worth the effort. Again, this is a complete new CNC made and performance improved SC pulley. I cant wait to feel the REVS on my new engine build!

Here is a hot off the press sample picture. One really cool feature is the over 30% in weight reduction !! Stock SC puley is 3.5 lbs and this is only 2.5 lbs!! This is huge for getting up to power quicker and lowering streess on your SC components! This super SC pulley will put you equall to a 170mm pulley. (stock is 155).

PM me pricing when they are ready as i need a new SC pulley soon

DVC · 11-30-2011, 06:09 PM

I can't wait until they ship. Any pics of the belt-wrap kit boss?

AKnight55 · 11-30-2011, 06:10 PM

What is the pricing on these?

CharlyE500 · 11-30-2011, 06:35 PM

And if my car doesn't have any crank pulley upgrade, can i still use this SC pulley ?

11-17-2011, 05:28 PM	#103
shardul SPONSOR Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 6,284 Drives: 2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600	yes it has a german bearing of equivalent quality and speed rating __________________

11-19-2011, 07:56 AM	#105
Ali_E55 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abu dhabi Posts: 1,316 Drives: E55K sold, Now: C218 CLS63TT PP Edition1	no intention of anything, but alot of guys were installing smaller S/C pulley here in UAE since 2009. i think it was stock pulley that was shimmed to a smaller one. the S/C pulley they used to sell was about 5mm smaller than stock and for $1800, i don't know where they were made or manufactored. it is easier to install and better than adding extra load on the cranck. but i would recomend to install also S/C belt rap kit with it. great things i am seeing that are being made for 55k since i sold mine. __________________ 2012 CLS63 AMG PP

11-23-2011, 07:50 AM	#109
Snogard Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 94	I have custom 82 mm SC pulley (-8 mm from stock diameter/ equivalent to 168mm crank pulley) for nearly a year now on E55 and for 5 years on my SLK. Been there done that. Look at my signature and look at the thread "ideal pulley design" from some time ago..."Ideal" pulley design? Calculation is also pretty simple; Stock ratio: 154mm crank and 90mm SC pulley at 6500 rpm give us 154/90x6500=11.122 SC rpm (on SC INLET shaft where clutch is sitting on). Stock crank pulley fi 154mm and custom 82mm SC pulley give us 12.207 SC rpm. 168mm crank pulley and stock 90mm SC pulley give us 12.133 SC rpm. So my 82mm custom SC pulley is the same like 168mm crank pulley, but with MUCH LESS parasitic loses and MUCH LESS stress on the crank. Keep in mind that internals of our SC spins even faster because of SC internal gearing. __________________ Custom 82mm SC pulley with clutch intact (equivalent to 168mm crank, but with much less parasitic loss and stress on crank) Manualy switchable SC (auto ON/OFF function stays intact) S55 snorkel Grindid OEM TB to mach 80mm Open intake flaps K&N Oil catch can 100 octane fuel SLX Pro Longtec 0W-30 Ex: E32 750i, E31 850i, E39 M5, Smart BRABUS, Etc Now: W211 E55, SLK BRABUS

11-25-2011, 04:08 AM	#110
mikey33 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,546 Drives: 2004 E55, 1997 E320 "Sold"	Is this the same thing as the 172mm or 180mm pulley that most sites sell like eurocharged and asp? __________________ Meisterschaft Race Exhaust w/Resonator Delete and 3" Straight Pipes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr4ZHYEanyI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUCfzTKujic Current Project: E63 Front & Rear End Conversion (Done)

11-25-2011, 06:35 AM	#111
shardul SPONSOR Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 6,284 Drives: 2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600	no one that i know sells a smaller SC pulley __________________

11-17-2011, 03:41 PM	#102
abhatti55 Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: MS Posts: 477 Drives: Brabus SL55-K8, '05 E55, '07 M5, '01 SL600, '01 740il Sport, '03 M5	Will the pulley retain the OEM Nachi bearing, or hopefully something of equivalent quality. I know it was an important factor to use that bearing when replacing it on the stock pulley. Thanks, about to preorder as well.

11-19-2011, 05:04 AM	#104
BlackCard Senior Member 2006 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 350 Drives: CLS55 AMG	I'm in! Shardul, we've already confirmed! AJ

11-25-2011, 09:48 AM	#113
novae500 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,425 Drives: W211	count me in as well!! __________________ 05 E55: 496rwhp / 530 torque, MBH headers, Renntech 168mm, Smaller s/c pulley, EC H/E, CF Intake Tubes, TTM Scoops, HRE 547rs, OE Tuned 06 E500 4matic: wife's

11-28-2011, 04:40 PM	#115
gaspam Super Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: miami and nashville Posts: 889 Drives: 2006 MB E55 AMG , 2001.5 AUDI S4 stg 3+ w/meth	pencil me in too as my s/c pulley is starting to throw out some muck so i think the bearing assembly is going south... if i ran just this s/c pulley looks like it would be like a 168mm crank pulley equivilant so would you guys be teaming up with E/C on this for tunes? i assume i could just get a 168MM tune with running just the s/c pulley and call it a day ? __________________ 2006 MB E55 - 180MM ASP Pulley, EC long tube headers, EC H/E, updated Bosch IC pump, DDM HID headlights and fogs 2001.5 Audi B5 S4 stage3+ w/meth (489 awhp)

11-28-2011, 04:59 PM	#116
DVC Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 494 Drives: '06 E55 AMG, '04 KB Lightning	Please count me in and PM with pricing info. __________________

11-28-2011, 10:02 PM	#117
keith954 Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Illinois Posts: 342 Drives: cls55	Can you give me the pricing info also, and an estimated month this will be ready.

11-28-2011, 11:06 PM	#118
mikey33 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,546 Drives: 2004 E55, 1997 E320 "Sold"	I might be in if I knew what the heck this was?? Is this the "typical" pulley that you usually buy with a tune or something else? __________________ Meisterschaft Race Exhaust w/Resonator Delete and 3" Straight Pipes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr4ZHYEanyI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUCfzTKujic Current Project: E63 Front & Rear End Conversion (Done)

11-28-2011, 11:28 PM	#119
Denroll Super Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 605 Drives: '06 E55	It's something else. The "typical" pulley is the lower one that is on the crank. That's why a larger one is better. This one is up top on the supercharger itself, which is why a smaller one will make the s/c spin faster. The lower weight is also a good thing. Combine the two for winning.

11-30-2011, 06:09 PM	#123
DVC Senior Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Georgia Posts: 494 Drives: '06 E55 AMG, '04 KB Lightning	I can't wait until they ship. Any pics of the belt-wrap kit boss? __________________

11-30-2011, 06:10 PM	#124
AKnight55 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NH Posts: 5,383 Drives: E55	What is the pricing on these? __________________ Eurocharged tune/ TTM scoops/ Sec. cats+ resonator delete/ Forgestar F14/ RennTech v1/ CF trunk spoiler/CF mirror cover/CF roof wrap/6000k HID headlights/ 35% tint/ E63 front bumper/ FTP Heat Exchanger/ CF Intake tubes/ Smaller S/C pulley

11-30-2011, 06:35 PM	#125
CharlyE500 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Socal, Chino Posts: 3,217 Drives: E55 2006 / E55 2000 / White Odyssey	And if my car doesn't have any crank pulley upgrade, can i still use this SC pulley ? __________________ Good judgment comes from experience, experience comes from bad judgment. Kleemann ECU tune + Header + CM30 pump + K&N filter + E63 front conversion + SL55 Gun metal wheels

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