P0306 After header install

nicco · 02-19-2012, 10:15 PM

Wondering if the forum god can help me out....

Couple of weeks back i got my kleemann headers installed and when we first started up the motor it wasn't idling properly.. Really rough!

The mechanic took it for a drive and when he brought it back we scanned the car and found the code p0306. So we swapped out the coil and wires between 5 and 6.... Still ended up with the same issue.

Hooked up star and noticed when the car is at idle the duty cycle for 6 is much larger then the rest of the cylinders. If you stand behind the car your clothing, skin etc will smell like GAS. if you park the car and walk behind the car you smell like gas.

Now where should i start my troubleshooting? Should i start by changing the plugs? or the injectors?

The guy that installed the headers said that i may have a problem with my injector and to run injector cleaner.

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skratch77 · 02-19-2012, 10:23 PM

did he plug the wrong wires in the 02s?

nicco · 02-19-2012, 10:25 PM

Plug the wrong wires? how many wires are there?

skratch77 · 02-19-2012, 10:27 PM

he could of swapped the left and right bank or even the post cats banks.If all you did was install headers and nothing else I would look at those first before taking things apart.

novae500 · 02-19-2012, 10:31 PM

White o2 harness plug goes front and black o2 goes rears

Or also wires were reinstalled wrong?

55fanatic · 02-19-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nicco

Plug the wrong wires? how many wires are there?

He may have installed the 02 sensors in the reversed order is what he's saying. Car wouldn't run right correctly

The upper 02 sensor is where the lower sensor should be... The E55 has a left and right set. I would agree with Skratch. Make sure your o2 sensors are aligned

skratch77 · 02-19-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by novae500

White o2 harness plug goes front and black o2 goes rears

Or also wires were reinstalled wrong?

you have front and rear and left and right,if the left and right are swapped the ecu will go nuts trying to get its A/F right

If your guy just installed the headers only and nothing else was touched and didnt double check to see if he plugged the 02s in the right places I would find another mechanic asap

nicco · 02-19-2012, 10:38 PM

Ill have them check it out first thing in the morning and will keep you guys posted

nicco · 02-20-2012, 01:08 AM

Anybody have a wiring diagram of how there actually suppose to be wired up?

BBBSS · 02-20-2012, 03:06 AM

I'd be looking at the spark plug wires and the plugs themselves on cylinder 6. Could have cracked the porcelain on a plug while working in the area wrestling the headers in if they left em in while installing the headers or damaged a spark plug wire when installing/removing them. One of the wires not seated well possibly?

I don't see it throwing a cylinder 6 misfire if the O2's were somehow crossed. You'd get a multi cylinder misfire if anything or issue with it going lean or rich as the computer fought to control air fuel ratio in the banks and it was not seeing what it was requesting/expecting from the injectors.

If an O2 is the problem (I doubt it) it would be the front O2's as the post cat O2's do NOTHING except report on if the catalytic converter is operating properly. The front O2's is what the engine uses to adjust running parameters.

shardul · 02-20-2012, 04:54 AM

Black connectors are for the front sensors and white connectors are for the reat sensors

gp500e · 02-20-2012, 06:47 AM

Once again someone managed to find a master tech.

tbal · 02-20-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by gp500e

Once again someone managed to find a master tech.

Lol

Mikey I would have done a better job :p

emoving · 02-20-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gp500e

Once again someone managed to find a master tech.

My Kleemanns went on perfect and not one issue!

lowprofile · 02-20-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shardul

Black connectors are for the front sensors and white connectors are for the reat sensors

Correct.

Also, is it true that Star will give you individual duty cycles like the Op stated?

shardul · 02-20-2012, 07:05 PM

Lowpro i was going to ask that same question. Where in star can you find the injector duty cycle. I know you can see the flow rate via star.

nicco · 02-22-2012, 05:21 PM

So finally had a chance to crawl underneath the car and found the O2 wires are complete opposite from either side. The picture is from cylinder 6 side upper O2 sensor.

Maybe it was the flow rate he was showing me on star can't remember, i was raging inside cause the car wasn't running properly.

02-19-2012, 10:25 PM	#3
nicco Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 222 Drives: E55 AMG	Plug the wrong wires? how many wires are there? __________________

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nicco Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 222 Drives: E55 AMG	Ill have them check it out first thing in the morning and will keep you guys posted __________________

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nicco Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 222 Drives: E55 AMG	Anybody have a wiring diagram of how there actually suppose to be wired up? __________________

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BBBSS MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,079 Drives: 03 E55 AMG, 06 Harley Road King Custom 99 Ram 3500 Cummins, 97 Firebird Race Car, 88 Cutlass Project	I'd be looking at the spark plug wires and the plugs themselves on cylinder 6. Could have cracked the porcelain on a plug while working in the area wrestling the headers in if they left em in while installing the headers or damaged a spark plug wire when installing/removing them. One of the wires not seated well possibly? I don't see it throwing a cylinder 6 misfire if the O2's were somehow crossed. You'd get a multi cylinder misfire if anything or issue with it going lean or rich as the computer fought to control air fuel ratio in the banks and it was not seeing what it was requesting/expecting from the injectors. If an O2 is the problem (I doubt it) it would be the front O2's as the post cat O2's do NOTHING except report on if the catalytic converter is operating properly. The front O2's is what the engine uses to adjust running parameters. Last edited by BBBSS; 02-20-2012 at 03:12 AM.

02-22-2012, 05:21 PM	#17
nicco Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 222 Drives: E55 AMG	So finally had a chance to crawl underneath the car and found the O2 wires are complete opposite from either side. The picture is from cylinder 6 side upper O2 sensor. Maybe it was the flow rate he was showing me on star can't remember, i was raging inside cause the car wasn't running properly. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Last edited by nicco; 02-22-2012 at 05:26 PM.

02-19-2012, 10:23 PM	#2
skratch77 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,293 Drives: 2005 E55	did he plug the wrong wires in the 02s?

02-19-2012, 10:27 PM	#4
skratch77 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,293 Drives: 2005 E55	he could of swapped the left and right bank or even the post cats banks.If all you did was install headers and nothing else I would look at those first before taking things apart.

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novae500 MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 2,422 Drives: W211	White o2 harness plug goes front and black o2 goes rears Or also wires were reinstalled wrong?

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shardul SPONSOR Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 6,279 Drives: 2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600	Black connectors are for the front sensors and white connectors are for the reat sensors

02-20-2012, 06:47 AM	#12
gp500e Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 90 Drives: 2006 E55	Once again someone managed to find a master tech.

02-20-2012, 07:05 PM	#16
shardul SPONSOR Garage is empty, add now Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 6,279 Drives: 2003 W211 E55, 2003 W220 S600	Lowpro i was going to ask that same question. Where in star can you find the injector duty cycle. I know you can see the flow rate via star.

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