It's OFFICIAL, the tranny IS broken........FAWK!!!

RedBullJnky · 05-03-2012, 05:08 PM

Well, you can add me to the Elite group of powerful AMGs that are out of commission.

The code was P220a. We saw that a speed sensor was not working. Checked the fluid level and ordered new conductor plate. We flushed the tranny twice and installed the new conductor plate and plugs. The car still will not go into gear. There are shavings in the tranny fluid as well, Soo.......

If any one has a clue of what could be wrong, please let me know.

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OCKlasse · 05-03-2012, 05:09 PM

6 speed swap?

GT-ER · 05-03-2012, 05:11 PM

Trannies aren't worth diagnosing too much since there is so much labor that goes into them that you may as well just rebuild the whole thing and be done with it. I don't know how handy your are wrenching but get yourself an ATSG service manual and do it yourself. AT trannies aren't rocket science, and no one will do it with the love you will put into it.

grantwoodtx · 05-03-2012, 05:14 PM

Rebuild it S65 clutch plates

johnnyblaze · 05-03-2012, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GT-ER

Trannies aren't worth diagnosing too much since there is so much labor that goes into them that you may as well just rebuild the whole thing and be done with it. I don't know how handy your are wrenching but get yourself an ATSG service manual and do it yourself. AT trannies aren't rocket science, and no one will do it with the love you will put into it.

+1 Make a long weekend out of it if you have a lift. If you dont, find a friend that does. I'm sure someone out in Florida, since there are a lot of enthusiasts there, would love to tear that down with you for a simple exchange of a 30 pack or 2..

shardul · 05-03-2012, 05:30 PM

Rebuild the transmission.

e55amgrocket · 05-03-2012, 05:32 PM

That sucks. I'm kinda scared now because I'm going to be making significantly more power after the rebuild.

whipplem104 · 05-03-2012, 05:35 PM

If you have any hard metal debris just get another one. The bearings fail and get in the planetary gear sets and destroy the transmission. Just not worth fixing that one. If it is just little flakes then it might be fixable. Call Paramount or Southern Hotrod. Both build really strong transmissions that can take way more than you will be making.

93turbocoupe · 05-03-2012, 05:43 PM

thats really sucks. i hoping you were going to run at PBI this sunday.

Glyn M Ruck · 05-03-2012, 05:48 PM

Do the flakes look like this? Aluminium?

If so don't worry about it. It is machining swarf from original build shocking as it may be. Worry about heavy magnetic steel deposits on the magnets.

jddumas · 05-03-2012, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whipplem104

If you have any hard metal debris just get another one. The bearings fail and get in the planetary gear sets and destroy the transmission. Just not worth fixing that one. If it is just little flakes then it might be fixable. Call Paramount or Southern Hotrod. Both build really strong transmissions that can take way more than you will be making.

I have heard nothing but great things about Southern Hotrod in New Orleans and that they build a bullet-proof tranny that can withstand 1,000+ HP.

E55Bullet · 05-03-2012, 06:11 PM

I blew mine out a couple of years ago. I bought a brand new rebuild from MB. How much you ask? Wholesale is $1450 3 year warrenty, shipped from Germany. Trq converter, $600 only one in the country and was shipped out of Florida. All this no shipping costs. I looked at upgraded transmissions from other companies but had zero warrenty! Hope this helps!

GT-ER · 05-03-2012, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whipplem104

If you have any hard metal debris just get another one. The bearings fail and get in the planetary gear sets and destroy the transmission. Just not worth fixing that one. If it is just little flakes then it might be fixable. Call Paramount or Southern Hotrod. Both build really strong transmissions that can take way more than you will be making.

I disagree. You just have to disassemble the transmission COMPLETELY, clean all the parts, and replace what you need to replace. It's usually not a complex thing to do. I've done it a few times before on transmissions that have been utterly destroyed and they were up and running stronger than ever.

GT-ER · 05-03-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by e55amgrocket

That sucks. I'm kinda scared now because I'm going to be making significantly more power after the rebuild.

65 clutches bro...

blackbenzz · 05-03-2012, 06:27 PM

That sucks. Southern hot rod. Mine has been running strong for years

CharlyE500 · 05-03-2012, 06:48 PM

Here you go !

E55 722.643 Transmission Rebuild PICS

CharlyE500 · 05-03-2012, 06:52 PM

722.6

02S430 · 05-03-2012, 07:59 PM

hope all turns out well!

tri-star tech · 05-03-2012, 08:28 PM

V12 transmission FTW! The case is physically bigger to hold more clutch discs!

novae500 · 05-03-2012, 08:54 PM

damn sorry to hear that RBJ...do you think the TCU update had anything to do with it?

WHTEVO · 05-03-2012, 09:34 PM

Hope you get it figured out. Good luck.

So just for future reference, the S65 clutch packs fit right in the 55 tranny? Same year car?

Aaron

motorkas · 05-03-2012, 09:51 PM

Sorry to hear about this brother - congrads on you're new PB - sorry to hear about the tranny - hope you're back up and running soon!!!!!!!!

RedBullJnky · 05-03-2012, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by novae500

damn sorry to hear that RBJ...do you think the TCU update had anything to do with it?

TCU had absolutely nothing to do with it.

Thanks every one! I appreciate all the help and advice!

But I have a trick up my sleeve.

Guess what? My car is still under warranty.

And I have a certain MANAGER at the dealership that I deal with. He knows all my mods also.

He works hard to get everythhing covered for me. So we are putting everything back on the car to make it seem as stock as we can. Hopefully I can get a whole new tranny and only pay my $50 deductable.

AKnight55 · 05-03-2012, 10:07 PM

urbamworm · 05-03-2012, 10:10 PM

I am curious what exactly is wrong. I had some shavings in my pan when I had a shifting problem making it get stuck in 3rd gear. I am not completely sure but I wonder if some shavings that were in your system is causing a valve to stick that just doesn't allow the car to even go in gear. I am not sure if that is possible or not, but it is pretty easy to take the valve body out and then split it in half and clean it out real good with carb cleaner. It has to be stupid clean or valves will stick.

I suppose if you can some how get a new tranny then you will be good to go, but it could be worth taking the valve body out and taking everything out and cleaning it real real good.

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GT-ER MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 4,156 Drives: 2005 E55 AMG	Trannies aren't worth diagnosing too much since there is so much labor that goes into them that you may as well just rebuild the whole thing and be done with it. I don't know how handy your are wrenching but get yourself an ATSG service manual and do it yourself. AT trannies aren't rocket science, and no one will do it with the love you will put into it. __________________ Awaiting for the moment in my life where I can get back to modifying cars. Soon...hopefully.

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e55amgrocket MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Northern Va Posts: 1,849 Drives: Dirt Scooters	That sucks. I'm kinda scared now because I'm going to be making significantly more power after the rebuild. __________________ 10.51@132 on motor 1.52 60ft 10.52@135 on spray 1.61 60ft Tuned by Eurocharged. New build starts 11/26

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Glyn M Ruck Super Moderator 1965 Jaguar 3.8 S Type Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 15,960 Drives: late 2009 CLK 350 Coupe Elegance, '65 Jaguar S Type wires	Do the flakes look like this? Aluminium? If so don't worry about it. It is machining swarf from original build shocking as it may be. Worry about heavy magnetic steel deposits on the magnets. __________________ Llandudno, Cape Town, South Africa

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whipplem104 Super Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: seattle Posts: 548 Drives: 1990 300ce supercharged and intercooled	If you have any hard metal debris just get another one. The bearings fail and get in the planetary gear sets and destroy the transmission. Just not worth fixing that one. If it is just little flakes then it might be fixable. Call Paramount or Southern Hotrod. Both build really strong transmissions that can take way more than you will be making.

05-03-2012, 05:43 PM	#9
93turbocoupe Junior Member 1993 Ford Mustang My Garage Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: miami Posts: 47 Drives: 2007 E63	thats really sucks. i hoping you were going to run at PBI this sunday.

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E55Bullet MBWorld Fanatic! 2006 Mercedes-Benz E-Class Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Lafayette, IN Posts: 1,582 Drives: 2006 E55	I blew mine out a couple of years ago. I bought a brand new rebuild from MB. How much you ask? Wholesale is $1450 3 year warrenty, shipped from Germany. Trq converter, $600 only one in the country and was shipped out of Florida. All this no shipping costs. I looked at upgraded transmissions from other companies but had zero warrenty! Hope this helps! __________________

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urbamworm MBWorld Fanatic! Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,801 Drives: 05 White Pano E55, 437whp Audi A4	I am curious what exactly is wrong. I had some shavings in my pan when I had a shifting problem making it get stuck in 3rd gear. I am not completely sure but I wonder if some shavings that were in your system is causing a valve to stick that just doesn't allow the car to even go in gear. I am not sure if that is possible or not, but it is pretty easy to take the valve body out and then split it in half and clean it out real good with carb cleaner. It has to be stupid clean or valves will stick. I suppose if you can some how get a new tranny then you will be good to go, but it could be worth taking the valve body out and taking everything out and cleaning it real real good. __________________ White Pano E55, 480whp 497wtq old setup 11.69@120 on 19s -David-

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