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Old 12-03-2012, 08:20 PM
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Who has a high stalll TQ in their E55?

Can you share your experiences.

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Old 12-03-2012, 08:35 PM
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I've got one but never got to really use it or take advantage of it I guess. I was trying to figure out how the car launched best with it but I didn't get many runs with it. I cut a 1.52 and several higher 1.50's but I fought slight wheel spin most of the time. I had maybe 250 street miles with it and it shined on the street lol. Rolling 3rd gear burnouts on drag radials from 60mph are FUN!!!
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I've got one but never got to really use it or take advantage of it I guess. I was trying to figure out how the car launched best with it but I didn't get many runs with it. I cut a 1.52 and several higher 1.50's but I fought slight wheel spin most of the time. I had maybe 250 street miles with it and it shined on the street lol. Rolling 3rd gear burnouts on drag radials from 60mph are FUN!!!
Any daily drivability issues?

Any downsides to the high stall TQ for a daily driver?
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normal driving you will not feel the difference with a higher stall. It does wake a vehicle up i think may get one for mine had one in my lightning and loved it.
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Heat buildup is the normal downside.

I have not heard of anyone exp shorter trans life yet, or require aux cooler yet.

I assume the aftermarket tq converters do no change lockup in the gears?

A non lockup tq conv can add a lot of heat in daily driving.
Old 12-04-2012, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jcjmw
Any daily drivability issues?

Any downsides to the high stall TQ for a daily driver?
In the short time i got to drive with it i didn't have any problems at all. Like someone already said the downside is heat build up and possibly just the different feeling of the car with it not taking off the same.
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normal driving you will not feel the difference with a higher stall. It does wake a vehicle up i think may get one for mine had one in my lightning and loved it.
You can feel it being less responsive from a light or a stop.
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You can feel it being less responsive from a light or a stop.
Yeah, that is how mine is. Mine has a 2500rpm stall and you feel a slipping feeling like the revs hang and car kind of goes smooth forward instead of surging forward, but if you punch it there is not slip, just go.
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Sorry to revive an old thread - has anyone measured a Pre- and post- 60' and quarter mile time difference with one of the higher stalls? I think shardul's stall is 3200rpm?
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No pre times but I can tell you it makes launching on the street pretty much impossible.
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i do have pre times however when i got back to the track with the new stall my factory lsd was totally shot with one legged burnouts. 1.74 sixty with factory stall dead hooking. after stall i went 1.64 with no practice and that was not a dead hook gained about a tenth in the quarter. Here is where the car got tricky i added the mbh headers picked up 50hp then tcu tune and forget it the car never hooked since. I found that building it up to at least 2000rpms was the best although it wants more the current tires will not hook unless you would have alot of cars at the track and super prep. On the street super fun wouldnt go back to a factory stall ever. At the track it will leave violent and harder then a car with pulleys and all the goodies plus it will want way more then the tires can take. sum it up your average 10second e55 with stock stall prob dead hooks as the videos i see in 1.60 range sum a hair quicker. my car 1.64 totally spinning through first. Im snowed in and miss doing 2nd gear burnouts from a roll all with stock pulley bip power.
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99 best review I've seen on tq conv. If my trans ever needs a rebuild this is on my list.
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In the event that you do get one and have someone put it in its super easy, so dont let someone rob you on labor.
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I have the same stall as Tim (99lightning) and there is not much difference in feel over factory when cruising in town. There is no lag or feel that the car is sluggish with this 3k converter. But once you punch it hard or build it off the line, it is violent.

We do sell these stalls through BI Performance, so hit me up if you need one.
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get that tcu tune from bip both go hand and hand.
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who sells 3000 stall converters? I just got an 05 and want to put a converter in it. My 98 bolt-on camaro goes 11.50's@114 with a 4000 stall full weigh. I know I can get my e55 low 11's stock with just a converter.... but I need to find one first lol
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Shardul is the one,

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Hmm. My rear main is weeping a bit ... Maybe excuse enough to do stall and rear mian seal)
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Originally Posted by 99lightning
get that tcu tune from bip both go hand and hand.
+1

BIP v3 CDT TCU tune FTW!

I'm currently running this TCU tune on stock stall and it's a nice overall improvement...I'll post a separate review thread soon.

I'm on the fence for my first drivetrain mod to go with: LSD or high stall. 99lightning provided me with positive feedback on both the LSD and high stall. I guess that means just do both, lolz.
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I need the TCU tune bad... Hmmmm
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Originally Posted by ec_nova
who sells 3000 stall converters? I just got an 05 and want to put a converter in it. My 98 bolt-on camaro goes 11.50's@114 with a 4000 stall full weigh. I know I can get my e55 low 11's stock with just a converter.... but I need to find one first lol
What's your definition of low 11's? Low 11's with just a converter and nothing else isn't going to happen if your talking about 11.30's or lower and honestly probably not even 11.50's or lower. BIP sells them or you can call Circle D converters and talk to them about what you want (that's who builds the converters everyone sells).
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i ran 11.50's with stall and tune. and that was not dead hooking at all what kept me back from running faster was lack of traction. with the mbh headers it was not a true test because i really had a loss of traction and had a 15-20mph plus head and cross winds that would of been my 11.30 or better run. i had to settle in the 11.40's. Pluse my tcu tune i swear makes it leave even harder in first with same build on the stall which is not doing these drag radials any favors. I have gone 120mph on just tune and stall so the power was there. either way if you run low 11's hooking vs high 10's with stock stall the car with the stall will always be more fun to drive.
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BIP and SHARDUL 3k stall is one in the same thing fellas.

Just an fyi...

I did the 3.06 rear gear, 3k stall and tcu tune all at once and the car is a completely different animal. The tq multiplication is insane.
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Originally Posted by 99lightning
i ran 11.50's with stall and tune. and that was not dead hooking at all what kept me back from running faster was lack of traction. with the mbh headers it was not a true test because i really had a loss of traction and had a 15-20mph plus head and cross winds that would of been my 11.30 or better run. i had to settle in the 11.40's. Pluse my tcu tune i swear makes it leave even harder in first with same build on the stall which is not doing these drag radials any favors. I have gone 120mph on just tune and stall so the power was there. either way if you run low 11's hooking vs high 10's with stock stall the car with the stall will always be more fun to drive.
He's in Miami. They don't usually see the DA you and I do and a 10.59 is still a tenth off going faster than a 11.50. Low 11's with only a converter isn't going to happen. Plus tons of cars have gone 1.60-1.49 60ft on the stock converter so it's not the converter holding anyone back.


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