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Old 02-27-2015, 06:24 PM
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Question For the Guys I trust the Most

When it comes to mods in general and more specifically, mods on the 55k motor, there is no one I trust more than the guys on this forum.

My boss who is a big car nut who owns a Lambo, a Maserati, a Cobra, and more just bought a 2011 G55. He freaking loves the instant grunt of the SC. We were talking and I told him he could really wake that monster up with a few simple mods. He says "oh really."

I am thinking for him some simple mods as he is using the G-Wagon as his winter daily and it must be reliable. My thoughts are a smaller SC pulley, cooling mods, (pump & HE) and a tune. Oh and a scattershield just in case that pulley decides to dynamite. A belt wrap and billet pulleys might be nice to, but that is about it.

This is were you guys come in. Please help me come up with the best mod set up given that we want total reliability and we are adding mostly low end pull to his beast. I don't see him slamming the speed limiter in his massive G-wagon.
Old 02-27-2015, 07:04 PM
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Lontubes or mid headers would be the best first mod. Everybody always does the SC pulley first because it's easy and more sexy.
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Originally Posted by cal1
When it comes to mods in general and more specifically, mods on the 55k motor, there is no one I trust more than the guys on this forum.

My boss who is a big car nut who owns a Lambo, a Maserati, a Cobra, and more just bought a 2011 G55. He freaking loves the instant grunt of the SC. We were talking and I told him he could really wake that monster up with a few simple mods. He says "oh really."

I am thinking for him some simple mods as he is using the G-Wagon as his winter daily and it must be reliable. My thoughts are a smaller SC pulley, cooling mods, (pump & HE) and a tune. Oh and a scattershield just in case that pulley decides to dynamite. A belt wrap and billet pulleys might be nice to, but that is about it.

This is were you guys come in. Please help me come up with the best mod set up given that we want total reliability and we are adding mostly low end pull to his beast. I don't see him slamming the speed limiter in his massive G-wagon.
What do you do for a living?

Unless you have an expertise in automotive stuff, I wouldn't recommend anything to your boss.

If it breaks, he may be less than happy that he listened to your advice.

Lastly, the tunes on the G-wagon get higher horsepower, but the higher horsepower doesn't translate to significant performance increases. If you tuned an SL55 or E55, you'd feel the difference, but not so much on a G55. Look at the almost negligible difference in 0-100 kph acceleration times between the current G550 and the current G63 AMG despite their significant power differences.

If you mention the paragraph I stated above, he may be more impressed with you than if you had given him mod advice. If I were your boss, I know I would be.
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I'd go tune & HE/pump, then headers if headers could not be done at the same time as the tune.

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What do you do for a living?

Unless you have an expertise in automotive stuff, I wouldn't recommend anything to your boss.

If it breaks, he may be less than happy that he listened to your advice.

Lastly, the tunes on the G-wagon get higher horsepower, but the higher horsepower doesn't translate to significant performance increases. If you tuned an SL55 or E55, you'd feel the difference, but not so much on a G55. Look at the almost negligible difference in 0-100 kph acceleration times between the current G550 and the current G63 AMG despite their significant power differences.

If you mention the paragraph I stated above, he may be more impressed with you than if you had given him mod advice. If I were your boss, I know I would be.
This is actually good advice.
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Originally Posted by Ls1toAMG
Lontubes or mid headers would be the best first mod. Everybody always does the SC pulley first because it's easy and more sexy.
I like it. If I was to do the mods on my SL over, I would start with LTs

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sc pulley n tune. call it a day
Simple, good power increase, good mainstream reliable mods.

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talk to chawkins. bip had a g55 at the clayton half mile that would really move. i think they might have another that they did a weistic swap
Thanks, I will do it.

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What do you do for a living?

Unless you have an expertise in automotive stuff, I wouldn't recommend anything to your boss.

If it breaks, he may be less than happy that he listened to your advice.

Lastly, the tunes on the G-wagon get higher horsepower, but the higher horsepower doesn't translate to significant performance increases. If you tuned an SL55 or E55, you'd feel the difference, but not so much on a G55. Look at the almost negligible difference in 0-100 kph acceleration times between the current G550 and the current G63 AMG despite their significant power differences.

If you mention the paragraph I stated above, he may be more impressed with you than if you had given him mod advice. If I were your boss, I know I would be.
Been making close to 7 figures on average per year for my boss running his architectural anodizing and paint operation for over a decade now. If the mods I suggested to him resulted in a blown engine, he would not think twice about it. He would probably dump the G and pick up a top end Range Rover in a heart beat. I spend a mil or two a year of his money on cap X projects. Don't think he would get too chitty if is G blew up based on my suggestions.
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headers and a tune. Nice and clean. plenty of extra power.
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Headers/tune/cooling. Stay away from exploding parts
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Simple, good power increase, good mainstream reliable mods.
I don't think people would call a s/c pulley reliable yet
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Originally Posted by cal1
When it comes to mods in general and more specifically, mods on the 55k motor, there is no one I trust more than the guys on this forum.

My boss who is a big car nut who owns a Lambo, a Maserati, a Cobra, and more just bought a 2011 G55. He freaking loves the instant grunt of the SC. We were talking and I told him he could really wake that monster up with a few simple mods. He says "oh really."

I am thinking for him some simple mods as he is using the G-Wagon as his winter daily and it must be reliable. My thoughts are a smaller SC pulley, cooling mods, (pump & HE) and a tune. Oh and a scattershield just in case that pulley decides to dynamite. A belt wrap and billet pulleys might be nice to, but that is about it.

This is were you guys come in. Please help me come up with the best mod set up given that we want total reliability and we are adding mostly low end pull to his beast. I don't see him slamming the speed limiter in his massive G-wagon.
Hey my friend, its been a long time!

If you need any help let me know. We have built quite a few of them and have the record for the quickest/fastest 1/4 etc

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Been making close to 7 figures on average per year for my boss running his architectural anodizing and paint operation for over a decade now. If the mods I suggested to him resulted in a blown engine, he would not think twice about it. He would probably dump the G and pick up a top end Range Rover in a heart beat. I spend a mil or two a year of his money on cap X projects. Don't think he would get too chitty if is G blew up based on my suggestions.
Good for you.

A smart ruler knows when to listen to his advisers and when not to. A smart adviser knows when to advise and when to stop advising the ruler.

P.S. There's something slightly prideful about that statement you made. I understand that it's factual, but there's just a tiny hint of overconfidence.
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I don't think people would call a s/c pulley reliable yet
Yeah your right, hence the scattershield, however if one needs a scattershield, that brings reliability into question.

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Hey my friend, its been a long time!

If you need any help let me know. We have built quite a few of them and have the record for the quickest/fastest 1/4 etc

Hey Jake, was thinking about you guys. My boss makes the kind of money to just go to RT, but he is a frugal bastad and demands value.

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Good for you.

A smart ruler knows when to listen to his advisers and when not to. A smart adviser knows when to advise and when to stop advising the ruler.

P.S. There's something slightly prideful about that statement you made. I understand that it's factual, but there's just a tiny hint of overconfidence.
First off, I just want to make it clear that I don't make that kind of money, my boss does from the plant he owns. The bravado you sense in my post may have been from the fact that the boss and I pulled off a big deal on Friday and I had also been into the single malt.

Your point is well taken and yes my comments are factually correct. One more thing, I suspect my boss will ask me what mods I think could make sense for him on Monday. I like to be prepared and anticipate the boss's questions before he asks them. Posts such as yours help me with that.

Finally, the boss's lambo is modded to the hilt. He is no stranger to the challenges and trade offs that go with the choice to mod.

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He clearly can appreciate over engineered, hand crafted parts made by skilled craftsmen.

Show him Weistec's site.
Pretty sure he wants an 800hp, military grade SUV.

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A set of k&n's, headers and a ecu tune. Is that simple enough? Should net him around 60-70hp & 50-60ftlbs

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