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Cold Wet Clutch Observation

Old 04-28-2015, 02:00 PM
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Cold Wet Clutch Observation

So as I mentioned in a prior thread, my 2011 E63 seems very sluggish for the first few minutes in the mornings. Like the clutch is not fully engaging. A few folks said this is normal which at least eases my worry.

However, I did try an experiment the last couple of days. Sort of an A-B-A test:

A - check engagement when cold while in C mode - result: sluggish

B - check engagement when cold while in S+ mode - result: fairly normal

A - back to cold and C mode - result: sluggish

It appears the clutch is not getting enough pressure in C mode while cold and when it is in S+ mode the pressure on the clutch is raised enough to overcome the cold start.

Anybody else experience this?

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My cars manifestation of this is that when I'm backing out of garage with cold engine and my drive has a slight decline, when I shift into drive from reverse while in C, the car continues to roll back until I give a little more throttle ... Almost like feathering a clutch in manual trans

When warm this doesn't happen in C, and warm or cold in S, this doesn't happen
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
My cars manifestation of this is that when I'm backing out of garage with cold engine and my drive has a slight decline, when I shift into drive from reverse while in C, the car continues to roll back until I give a little more throttle ... Almost like feathering a clutch in manual trans

When warm this doesn't happen in C, and warm or cold in S, this doesn't happen
I forgot to update this thread with a very important fact my service advisor just gave me.

The car takes off in 2nd gear in C mode ! This totally explains why the issue is so pronounced in C mode and not in other modes.

I recommend you put car in S or higher when you back out while it is still cold. Switch back to C after a few minutes. Problem wont really be detectable then.
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Good call
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Thanks for the update. During my purchase of my AMG. The service manager told me because my is a Bi turbo, always warm up your car which is fine with me since I smoke, it gives me a smoke break in the morning before taking the baby to school. That is why I couldn't answer the original thread because I've never experienced it.

I would do the same with a NA V8 just because it wouldn't hurt it.

Just a suggestion.
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
My cars manifestation of this is that when I'm backing out of garage with cold engine and my drive has a slight decline, when I shift into drive from reverse while in C, the car continues to roll back until I give a little more throttle ... Almost like feathering a clutch in manual trans

When warm this doesn't happen in C, and warm or cold in S, this doesn't happen
Same here. Was wondering if mine was developing a fault, but I guess not.

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