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Old 08-29-2016, 05:45 PM
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Curious to see what people's IAT's are at the tree and when they cross the stripe.
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Folks, what variables should I log?
i would start with IAT's, timing and fuel trends

you should also be able to see any stored DTC's and count of individual cylinder misfires if you run a scan now
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Originally Posted by gaspam
i would start with IAT's, timing and fuel trends

you should also be able to see any stored DTC's and count of individual cylinder misfires if you run a scan now
Awesome; thanks. Will check it out when I return home.
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Picking up some mph with 100oct usually points to timing being pulled on the 93 octane run.

StKnk is where you'll see that.
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Originally Posted by sdg1871
Thanks. Yes we had at least 50 to 60 launches that day and we tested it both in race start and brake torquing and found that the best results were from brake torquing where you release the brake at about 2500 RPMs.

To do it properly you step on the brake first and floor the brake. Then your floor the gas and simply let the revs come up to about 2500 and release the brake. it's that simple
um how do you floor the gas, while still on the brakes, if you do not mind me asking?

Because as soon as you floor it, you will have to immediately lift off the brakes, as the RPM will climb so fast, it would be very hard to catch before it passes 2500 rpm

Also 2 feet or one foot?

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um how do you floor the gas, while still on the brakes, if you do not mind me asking?

Because as soon as you floor it, you will have to immediately lift off the brakes, as the RPM will climb so fast, it would be very hard to catch before it passes 2500 rpm

Also 2 feet or one foot?

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Two feet. One each for brake and gas. You end up releasing the brake very quickly after flooring it because the car will not let you launch it at high rpm's -- must be to protect the transmission from all that torque
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Originally Posted by sdg1871
Two feet. One each for brake and gas. You end up releasing the brake very quickly after flooring it because the car will not let you launch it at high rpm's -- must be to protect the transmission from all that torque
are you in Dyno Mode? If I try that with TC off my ecu freaks out
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are you in Dyno Mode? If I try that with TC off my ecu freaks out
I don't even know how to put the car into Dyno mode LOL
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Attached is a log from yesterday. All runs done in S mode. What timing advance are you guys seeing at WOT? I see a couple of degrees. Cooling seems to be OK on these runs, which is great.

Interesting that I see 22 lbs of boost, which is about 3 lbs more than I had seen in my other logs, which were all logged in S+ or M. I remember seeing another member post he sees more boost in S as well. Mine could be bad data also, but just throwing it out there for the group.

...data sorted by boost, low to high
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Pretty sure sdg has quickest documented e63S on this board with just tune and mufflers
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Originally Posted by Zod
um how do you floor the gas, while still on the brakes, if you do not mind me asking?

Because as soon as you floor it, you will have to immediately lift off the brakes, as the RPM will climb so fast, it would be very hard to catch before it passes 2500 rpm

Also 2 feet or one foot?

Thx
yup what sdg said

i reliably get my best launches with sdg's technique... I don't bother with race start anymore
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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
Pretty sure sdg has quickest documented e63S on this board with just tune and mufflers
what the result?
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Originally Posted by Fairbird
what the result?
he posted earlier in thread

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mine was quicker , and I didn't had mufflers .
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mine was quicker , and I didn't had mufflers .
awesome what was the result
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best one 10.9 , 1/8 mile check on the first page .
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Originally Posted by Fairbird
best one 10.9 , 1/8 mile check on the first page .
that's impressive

i don't know how to extrapolate the 1/4 mile time from 1/8 mile...

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Originally Posted by PeterUbers
that's impressive

i don't know how to extrapolate the 1/4 mile time from 1/8 mile...
you can compare 11.1 and my 1/8 , they very similar with 0.0x different .
also the NY elevation 400–900 , mine 2000–2400 , big different
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Sorry for what might be a stupid question. But I am planning on heading to the track here in NJ this weds evening.

It seems that the technique that is recommended is to side step the brakes as the RPMs hit 2500 as the floor the throttle? Or are you saying to hold the RPMs at 2500 side steps the brakes and then floor it?

Out of curiosity what is the issue with the RS mode?
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Originally Posted by Northernivy
Sorry for what might be a stupid question. But I am planning on heading to the track here in NJ this weds evening.

It seems that the technique that is recommended is to side step the brakes as the RPMs hit 2500 as the floor the throttle? Or are you saying to hold the RPMs at 2500 side steps the brakes and then floor it?

Out of curiosity what is the issue with the RS mode?
1 push the brake hard
2 add throttle slowly up to 2500 rpm
3 foot of the brake
4 100% throttle
RS just slower
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Went to the track this evening, as we finally have some cooler weather (71 degrees). Launched at about 2100 rpms. 50/50 mix of 93 and 100 octane fuel.

Run 1: 11.548 @ 126.70 mph (My best trap speed thus far)
Run 2: 11.577 @ 124.95 mph
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Originally Posted by Ralcbah
Went to the track this evening, as we finally have some cooler weather (71 degrees). Launched at about 2100 rpms. 50/50 mix of 93 and 100 octane fuel.

Run 1: 11.548 @ 126.70 mph (My best trap speed thus far)
Run 2: 11.577 @ 124.95 mph
nice are you AWD and tuned? If so which tune?
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Originally Posted by Ralcbah
Attached is a log from yesterday. All runs done in S mode. What timing advance are you guys seeing at WOT? I see a couple of degrees. Cooling seems to be OK on these runs, which is great.

Interesting that I see 22 lbs of boost, which is about 3 lbs more than I had seen in my other logs, which were all logged in S+ or M. I remember seeing another member post he sees more boost in S as well. Mine could be bad data also, but just throwing it out there for the group.

...data sorted by boost, low to high
what octane were you running in this log? was it the same 93+ race gas you ran in you latest track runs? I have renntech tune and never see above 19psi and usually see around 6.5- 9 degrees advance at full boost
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Originally Posted by Fairbird
1 push the brake hard
2 add throttle slowly up to 2500 rpm
3 foot of the brake
4 100% throttle
RS just slower
are you saying this method results in faster times than RS, or that it's faster to launch using the steps above rather than the 5 step RS process?
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Originally Posted by CliffJumper
are you saying this method results in faster times than RS, or that it's faster to launch using the steps above rather than the 5 step RS process?
I've heard some people say RS is faster while others say brake torque.

From what I've tried on the street RS seemed to launch harder than brake torque.


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