vkudenko444

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gaspam

thats vasily's car.. its well documented and 1179 hp... and totally custom, not a kit

https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...ed-1179hp.html

e65

how has your gearbox etc held up with all that power and so many hard runs?

Fairbird

build trans I'm more interested to hear how many miles was put on it after upgrade

vkudenko444

Vlad, the car has 67k km on clock, and on the stroker 10k km.

vkudenko444

Besides i have NoS installed and will try it in April in Germany at the upcomng Rolling 50 event (ssc500.de)

Fairbird

not bad at all consider my experience

e65

2014 E63S 4matic
5.3 seconds 100-200kph
Gad 5.8 stroker complete build (stage 5 + meth)
carbon brakes swap
pump gas tune
Full weight car

Run was performed in Germany so probably close to sea level.

gaspam

^ 5.3 100-200 on stage 5 , 5.8L gad stroker ? only 0.3 sec faster than a $6K weistec stage 3... sounds like something is off

M5 pureturbos stage 1 doing 4.8 100-200... stage2 even faster 4.4

e65

I had weistec turbos before with factory exhaust. 100-200 was 7.8-8s. The factory exhaust probably slowed me down by full second. There is only one person in the world who is getting 5.6 with weistec w3 setup.

I think my setup is running okay it takes about 900-horsepower at least to get 5.3 on full weight e63. There is no comparison between my set-up now and the weistec setup I had before. I am getting a race gas calibration as well which should take a few tents off. Keep in mind I have smaller turbos than Vasily . He is running race gas and has weight reduction otherwise our motors are similar. Also I don't have any plans to run nitrous.

M5 is different platform and they must be using bigger turbos to get those times and probably higher RPMs

Fairbird

I'd say 6.0-6.2 is pretty common on w3 and easy to get

vkudenko444

5.6 on Weistec W3 is complete bull**** the same as their kit. I personally know a few guys who installed this kit and the best they reached was mid. 6, besides these turbos ruined after 5-7k km. As for 5.3 on pump gas on 5.8 stroker, well may be GAD made a very conservative tune to handle low octane fuel. But as i understand his turbos are smaller than mine (should be 3071 then). I am running on 3076 and on C16 race gas to get 4.4. My car is ca. 80kg lighter than stock due to full length Kline Inconel exhaust (15kg vs 55kg stock exhaust) and Recaro Pole Position bucket seats (20kg vs 60kg for stock multicontour heated and vented seats).

e65

correct this is a conservative pump gas tune and full weight. I can save 20 kilograms just by getting lighter Wheels. As for gaspasm wondering if something is off I bet its the 5.6 measurement that is off

Fairbird

I've reached 7.0 right after install , 2 month took me to get it there . 5.6-5.9 was constant range , and turbos were smoking already

vkudenko444

Vlad, i am in for Tuning my E63 since 2013. I have come across quite a number of big names in MB tuning world and i can tell you that 5.6 on W3 (i.e. only cold part mod. stock GT22 turbos) is complete bull****. To get 5.6 you need ca. 700whp on a full weight car. Please come back to reality.

Amg63-

i got this same time on a roll hitting gas starting from 100-200 in 3-4 gear with just tune and catless dp with pump gas. I don't think the w3 kit makes much if not any more power over stock turbos with an aggressive tune then. Tune is making 635whp/780wtq and getting it done in 6.0s.

Fairbird

I don't care , it is what it is , Benz suck in aftermarket any way

Fairbird

it does , but it's my opinion

Amg63-

then I wonder why with only a measly tune of 635/780 on stock turbos it's doing better than w3 kit but ok.

is coming on this forum and constantly bashing our car just your way of letting all your frustration out? It's really not working out in your favour.

Fairbird

I had both options on my car , w3 faster hands down , reliability price for them couple tens is different question

Amg63-

Ok so the timer is making up fake times that must be it.

Fairbird

Race logic , it's accurate

vkudenko444

accurate is trap speed at 1/4 at official event. RL can produce fake "news" the same as CNN ;-)), especially your old one 10Hz and without logs.

Fairbird

different cars and set ups , numbers matching

e65

Wiestec W3 turbo in my experience was very similar to the stock Turbo. Fairbird If you're really getting 5.6 why do you say that our platform sucks?

Just show us a quarter mile slip of your car. Is there any reason you do not want to do that? If you do that you could silence everybody